Woods fight in Sheffield

dandantheweatherman · Post by **dandantheweatherman** » 27 Dec 2004, 22:15

BBC website says Clinton Woods gets to try to become IBF champ again in Sheffield. Apparently the fight will be in late Feb 2005.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4128297.stm

Andrey · Post by **Andrey** » 28 Dec 2004, 00:49

I want to wish Clinton Woods good luck, and Hoye not a big chalange like most people say. He have only good punch that is all, if Woods a good boxer he will frustrate Hoye all night.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 28 Dec 2004, 09:31

Woods can win this, but Hoye is a huge puncher by all accounts. I hope I'm wrong but Woods might get beaten here. Johnson is not a huge puncher at light heavy but he hurt Woods several times if Hoye connects cleanly it could be his night.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 28 Dec 2004, 11:22

if this bout would take place the winner will be the worst light heavy champ of all times.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 28 Dec 2004, 11:36

Good luck to Woods and well done for his management for getting him another title shot and with home advantage.

This is Woods best and maybe last chance of winning a World Title, if he wins surely a big money match with Joe Calzaghe is a strong possibility?

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 28 Dec 2004, 17:25

Only for Calzaghe to pull out injured the week before the fight....

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 28 Dec 2004, 20:11

BubiScholz wrote:if this bout would take place the winner will be the worst light heavy champ of all times.

Been some poor ones Bubi, Willie Guthrie in the mid 90's wasn't the best. I dear say Julio Gonzales was a poor champion. For me, a shot Dariuz beat him - Edrei looked like Ali next to him, since then Edrei has looked average against fighters not near the top ten.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 29 Dec 2004, 00:01

Hoye has massive power in that right hand, but his camp say they will stop Woods via body shots. Either way i see Woods getting stopped, Hoye i think is just a little hungrier. Woods will have to wait for his next world title shot because i don't see him winning this one.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 29 Dec 2004, 09:27

stujones wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:if this bout would take place the winner will be the worst light heavy champ of all times.
Been some poor ones Bubi, Willie Guthrie in the mid 90's wasn't the best. I dear say Julio Gonzales was a poor champion. For me, a shot Dariuz beat him - Edrei looked like Ali next to him, since then Edrei has looked average against fighters not near the top ten.

Dariusz was overmotivated because of the Marciano-record. he had a bad day. Erdei is the best in this division at the moment. he would outbox Johnson who is so made to king. i hope Erdei fights Johnson next year and beats him.

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 29 Dec 2004, 18:50

Woods must be the Frank Bruno of the light-heavies.
Who else has had as many chances?

What does this say about the division though? a habitual loser, who may just break the norm???

Todays boxing......................

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 29 Dec 2004, 20:21

BubiScholz wrote:
stujones wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:if this bout would take place the winner will be the worst light heavy champ of all times.
Been some poor ones Bubi, Willie Guthrie in the mid 90's wasn't the best. I dear say Julio Gonzales was a poor champion. For me, a shot Dariuz beat him - Edrei looked like Ali next to him, since then Edrei has looked average against fighters not near the top ten.
Dariusz was overmotivated because of the Marciano-record. he had a bad day. Erdei is the best in this division at the moment. he would outbox Johnson who is so made to king. i hope Erdei fights Johnson next year and beats him.

Bubi, we'll have to agree to disagree - I want to believe you that Edrei is a star and I was very impressed with him when he eat Gonzales. Since then has been very average. Surely you scored his fight with Garray to the Argentinian challenger. How does this make him the best in the devision? Shouldn't it be Garray then?

I to hope Johnson vs Edrei happens though, although on recent form I would tip the Jamacian.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 29 Dec 2004, 20:37

The jury is very much still out on Erdei as far as I am concerned. Good performance winning the title but Gonzalez himself can blow hot and cold and I think the win over Dariusz flattered him as that was not the same guy in the ring that made all those title defences. I'd favour Johnson to beat him if they faced off, but I think he's contracted to a rematch with Tarver.

mickeybeard · Post by **mickeybeard** » 30 Dec 2004, 09:48

tonyevs wrote:Woods must be the Frank Bruno of the light-heavies.
Who else has had as many chances?

What does this say about the division though? a habitual loser, who may just break the norm???

Todays boxing......................

Two close fights against the undisputed No.1 in the division though. It's not like he was shellacked by Johnson, either time. Johnson's win against Tarver makes Clinton's performances against him look pretty impressive. Yes, it's bullshit that the champs were stripped and we have vacant belts, but I think calling Woods a habitual loser is harsh. He's showed he can mix it with the top guys in the (admitedly weak) division.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 30 Dec 2004, 12:48

tonyevs wrote:Woods must be the Frank Bruno of the light-heavies.
Who else has had as many chances?

What does this say about the division though? a habitual loser, who may just break the norm???

Todays boxing......................

Jersey Joe Wallcott?

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 30 Dec 2004, 13:37

mickeybeard wrote:
tonyevs wrote:Woods must be the Frank Bruno of the light-heavies.
Who else has had as many chances?

What does this say about the division though? a habitual loser, who may just break the norm???

Todays boxing......................
Two close fights against the undisputed No.1 in the division though. It's not like he was shellacked by Johnson, either time. Johnson's win against Tarver makes Clinton's performances against him look pretty impressive. Yes, it's bullshit that the champs were stripped and we have vacant belts, but I think calling Woods a habitual loser is harsh. He's showed he can mix it with the top guys in the (admitedly weak) division.

Yes I was too harsh on Clinton,I apologize.

But He did lose all his previous attempts though didn’t he, and who has he beaten who is world class?
Johnson got robbed first time, and to be honest Johnson will never ever be rated in the top 20 best lt-heavies in history will he.
Sure he`s the best in the division, the best of a bad bunch..real bad bunch, so much so Calzaghe would have a better than average chance of beating Johnson.
Johnson and Tarver away from their good wins over a washed up Roy Jones have achieved little to prove their worth.

And Jersey Joe needed a few chances before getting lucky, but who has had as many chances in the lt-heavy division.
If only Dean Francis hadn’t had his injury’s and why hasn’t Peter Oboh stepped in to stake a claim?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 30 Dec 2004, 13:57

tonyevs wrote:And Jersey Joe needed a few chances before getting lucky, but who has had as many chances in the lt-heavy division.

David Vedder.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 31 Dec 2004, 00:28

BubiScholz wrote:
stujones wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:if this bout would take place the winner will be the worst light heavy champ of all times.
Been some poor ones Bubi, Willie Guthrie in the mid 90's wasn't the best. I dear say Julio Gonzales was a poor champion. For me, a shot Dariuz beat him - Edrei looked like Ali next to him, since then Edrei has looked average against fighters not near the top ten.
Dariusz was overmotivated because of the Marciano-record. he had a bad day. Erdei is the best in this division at the moment. he would outbox Johnson who is so made to king. i hope Erdei fights Johnson next year and beats him.

Erdei is slick and awkward but nothing more, he has looked poor since beating Gonzalez and done nothing of note...Johnson i think would be way too much for him, on neutral ground of course

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 31 Dec 2004, 04:58

Do you know how much the tickets to the big German shows are, Bubi? I'll likely be in Budapest/Prague sometime next spring and it would be nothing to hop into Germany for a weekend show. I would likely arrange my whole trip around such an event.

In fact, how much dearer would it be travelling (with ryanair, etc) to Germany, than it would be getting the train down to Manchester... WOULD it be dearer? Makes you think...

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 31 Dec 2004, 08:15

Manos de Oro wrote:Do you know how much the tickets to the big German shows are, Bubi? I'll likely be in Budapest/Prague sometime next spring and it would be nothing to hop into Germany for a weekend show. I would likely arrange my whole trip around such an event.

In fact, how much dearer would it be travelling (with ryanair, etc) to Germany, than it would be getting the train down to Manchester... WOULD it be dearer? Makes you think...

http://www.boxen.com/themen/fanarena/ticket.php

You can probably find out from above link..

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 04 Jan 2005, 19:01

MightyWarrior wrote:
Manos de Oro wrote:Do you know how much the tickets to the big German shows are, Bubi? I'll likely be in Budapest/Prague sometime next spring and it would be nothing to hop into Germany for a weekend show. I would likely arrange my whole trip around such an event.

In fact, how much dearer would it be travelling (with ryanair, etc) to Germany, than it would be getting the train down to Manchester... WOULD it be dearer? Makes you think...
http://www.boxen.com/themen/fanarena/ticket.php

You can probably find out from above link..

Nice one. I'm really tempted to go to the Light-Heavyweight card on Feb 26th for the return of the Tiger, but Eastman-Hopkins is the previous weekend. Should Eastman beat Hopkins it will be all good, but if Hopkins devastates him (as I predict) then that sets up a Trinidad return, which I absolutetly must witness live. Bit of a dilemma now on which to splash the cash on.