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dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image

My dad, Aurelio Baltazar, (11/12/1913--5/11/2000) barbecuing, circa-1972,
Legg Lake, South El Monte, Ca.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5IIXeR5OUI

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thanks, Roger, my dad used to love that song.... :bow:
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kikibalt wrote:My 94 year old uncle Louie passed away today (11-13-09)

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Uncle Louie

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Uncle Louie with my sister Rachel
Frank
I remember that you talked about your Uncle Louie before. Sounds like he was quite a man. My sympathies with your family. Rog
Yeah, Roger, I posted these same pics last year, I shot 'em when we had a Sunday brunch for my sister Rachel, who had been told by her doctors that she had only 5-6 months to live, well she is still with us, but we lost uncle Louie.

Uncle Louie!, uncle Louie had a sad life, in the early 1940s he and his wife Vera lost three of their four children in a house fire, he never got over that, at that time I got real close to him, he would aways pick me up in his 1930 Ford Model A, where ever he went, I went with him, he also taught me how to drive in that Model A. In my eyes, he was a great man.... :bow: :bow:
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Manny Pacquiao 144 vs Miguel Cotto 145

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By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports

Manny Pacquiao, just after weighing in at 144 pounds for his welterweight title fight against Miguel Cotto, slipped on a pair of custom Nikes. Cotto, who came it at the 145-pound limit, didn’t.

So when the two fighters were squared off in front of a delirious crowd at the MGM Grand Garden Arena, it was Pac-man who appeared to have the slightest of height advantages, staring just a little down his nose at the bare-footed Cotto.

The difference was the shoes, of course. Cotto stands 5-foot-7, Pacquiao is 5-6 by most measurements.

To further the visual allusion, Pacquiao had his pants pulled up high, so his waist line matched Cotto’s, who actually had his pants sagging a bit.

Whether the choice in footwear and pant length was just a coincidence or a planned intimidation tactic is unknown.

Considering Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, rarely misses a chance to play head games in title fights, we’ll go with the latter. If Cotto doesn’t get to enjoy the 28 or so hours between weigh-in and fight knowing he is clearly the bigger man, then that’s a small win for Pacquiao.

This is a fight about size. Or, at least, the prefight hype is about size. Everyone is wondering just how much bigger and stronger Cotto will be than Pacquiao and whether that is enough to offset Pacquiao’s speed and precision advantages.

The bigger man doesn’t always win, but it sure doesn’t hurt.

Take away the shoes and Cotto was bigger at the weigh-in. Only a pound separated them but Cotto was thicker through the chest and shoulders, a disparity that should only increase Saturday night.

If Cotto regains weight as expected, he should enter the ring weighing as much as 155 pounds. Pacquiao, who’s never fought at a weight this heavy, is unlikely to top 148. He is what he is, a guy who started his career at 106 pounds.

“(Cotto) will eat what he needs to eat,” said Cotto’s conditioning coach Phil Landman. “I have a meal plan set up for him. When he gets into the ring he’ll be at a comfortable weight no matter what he weighs. I don’t care what he weighs.”

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Pacquiao’s skill set has made a mockery of bigger fighters who thought they could bully him. He’s deftly moved up weight class after weight class and maintained his blinding speed.

Most recently, in December of 2008, Pacquiao stepped up to fight Oscar De La Hoya at 145 pounds. However, De La Hoya, who’d fought as high as 160, so drained himself in cutting weight that he was unable to bounce back. He entered the ring that night dehydrated and at 147 pounds, according to HBO. He was actually outweighed by Pacquiao, who was at 148.5

That shouldn’t happen with Cotto, which makes this latest step up dangerous for Pacquiao. You have to wonder when too much is too much.

“My strength is too much for (Saturday) night,” Cotto said after the weigh-in before adding, “I’m hungry.”

Pacquiao, of course, was unconcerned. He is forever unflappable. He waved to the throngs of Filipino fans who screamed for him during the weigh-in. He then encouraged them to attend a post-fight concert at Mandalay Bay where Pacquiao promised to sing eight songs with his band. Cotto had an equally sizeable group of fans on hand.

The fight is for the World Boxing Organization welterweight belt, although the weight limit was 145, not 147. The bigger prize is another likely mega-fight, this time in 2010 against Floyd Mayweather Jr. At the weigh-in, Floyd Mayweather Sr. said his son would likely fight the winner.

The two fighters offered no ill will to each other, each coolly confident. The fireworks came courtesy of the trainers, Roach and Joe Santiago.

When Cotto weighed in, Roach stood very close, bent over and got his eye right on the scale. He nodded when Cotto made weight, but it was clearly some kind of head game (it wasn’t like the Nevada Athletic Commission was going to screw up the weigh-in.)

The scene angered Santiago, who had listened to Roach bash him repeatedly in the press for being inexperienced and just a figurehead in the Cotto camp.

“It’s 145, (expletive),” Santiago shouted at Roach.

The (expletive) set Roach off and incited a back-and-forth shouting match. Eventually both trainers had to be separated as they jawed at each other.

Meanwhile, amid the commotion, Pacquiao put on his Nikes for the stand-off – just one head game to the next at the biggest fight of the year.

Dan Wetzel is Yahoo! Sports’ national columnist.

All Photos by Al Bello/ Getty Images
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kikibalt wrote:Manny Pacquiao 144 vs Miguel Cotto 145

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By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports

Manny Pacquiao, just after weighing in at 144 pounds for his welterweight title fight against Miguel Cotto, slipped on a pair of custom Nikes. Cotto, who came it at the 145-pound limit, didn’t.

So when the two fighters were squared off in front of a delirious crowd at the MGM Grand Garden Arena, it was Pac-man who appeared to have the slightest of height advantages, staring just a little down his nose at the bare-footed Cotto.

The difference was the shoes, of course. Cotto stands 5-foot-7, Pacquiao is 5-6 by most measurements.

To further the visual allusion, Pacquiao had his pants pulled up high, so his waist line matched Cotto’s, who actually had his pants sagging a bit.

Whether the choice in footwear and pant length was just a coincidence or a planned intimidation tactic is unknown.

Considering Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, rarely misses a chance to play head games in title fights, we’ll go with the latter. If Cotto doesn’t get to enjoy the 28 or so hours between weigh-in and fight knowing he is clearly the bigger man, then that’s a small win for Pacquiao.

This is a fight about size. Or, at least, the prefight hype is about size. Everyone is wondering just how much bigger and stronger Cotto will be than Pacquiao and whether that is enough to offset Pacquiao’s speed and precision advantages.

The bigger man doesn’t always win, but it sure doesn’t hurt.

Take away the shoes and Cotto was bigger at the weigh-in. Only a pound separated them but Cotto was thicker through the chest and shoulders, a disparity that should only increase Saturday night.

If Cotto regains weight as expected, he should enter the ring weighing as much as 155 pounds. Pacquiao, who’s never fought at a weight this heavy, is unlikely to top 148. He is what he is, a guy who started his career at 106 pounds.

“(Cotto) will eat what he needs to eat,” said Cotto’s conditioning coach Phil Landman. “I have a meal plan set up for him. When he gets into the ring he’ll be at a comfortable weight no matter what he weighs. I don’t care what he weighs.”

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Pacquiao’s skill set has made a mockery of bigger fighters who thought they could bully him. He’s deftly moved up weight class after weight class and maintained his blinding speed.

Most recently, in December of 2008, Pacquiao stepped up to fight Oscar De La Hoya at 145 pounds. However, De La Hoya, who’d fought as high as 160, so drained himself in cutting weight that he was unable to bounce back. He entered the ring that night dehydrated and at 147 pounds, according to HBO. He was actually outweighed by Pacquiao, who was at 148.5

That shouldn’t happen with Cotto, which makes this latest step up dangerous for Pacquiao. You have to wonder when too much is too much.

“My strength is too much for (Saturday) night,” Cotto said after the weigh-in before adding, “I’m hungry.”

Pacquiao, of course, was unconcerned. He is forever unflappable. He waved to the throngs of Filipino fans who screamed for him during the weigh-in. He then encouraged them to attend a post-fight concert at Mandalay Bay where Pacquiao promised to sing eight songs with his band. Cotto had an equally sizeable group of fans on hand.

The fight is for the World Boxing Organization welterweight belt, although the weight limit was 145, not 147. The bigger prize is another likely mega-fight, this time in 2010 against Floyd Mayweather Jr. At the weigh-in, Floyd Mayweather Sr. said his son would likely fight the winner.

The two fighters offered no ill will to each other, each coolly confident. The fireworks came courtesy of the trainers, Roach and Joe Santiago.

When Cotto weighed in, Roach stood very close, bent over and got his eye right on the scale. He nodded when Cotto made weight, but it was clearly some kind of head game (it wasn’t like the Nevada Athletic Commission was going to screw up the weigh-in.)

The scene angered Santiago, who had listened to Roach bash him repeatedly in the press for being inexperienced and just a figurehead in the Cotto camp.

“It’s 145, (expletive),” Santiago shouted at Roach.

The (expletive) set Roach off and incited a back-and-forth shouting match. Eventually both trainers had to be separated as they jawed at each other.

Meanwhile, amid the commotion, Pacquiao put on his Nikes for the stand-off – just one head game to the next at the biggest fight of the year.

Dan Wetzel is Yahoo! Sports’ national columnist.

All Photos by Al Bello/ Getty Images
I won't watch it live. 54.95 is against my grain. I've spent a thousand times more ,I know, on booze and broads,but if I get the urge,I'll drive down to TJ and watch it for free at the Sports Book. This morning ,I don't feel that way. By tonight,I know I won't feel that way.

Picking Manny by KO in the later rounds. :bag:
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dagosd2000 wrote:I won't watch it live. 54.95 is against my grain. I've spent a thousand times more ,I know, on booze and broads,but if I get the urge,I'll drive down to TJ and watch it for free at the Sports Book. This morning ,I don't feel that way. By tonight,I know I won't feel that way.

Picking Manny by KO in the later rounds. :bag:
I'll be watching the fight here at home, I'm lucky that I have James here who will split the 54.95 + tax with me, Roger, if you feel like driving north, you're wecome to watch the fight with us... :TU:
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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:I won't watch it live. 54.95 is against my grain. I've spent a thousand times more ,I know, on booze and broads,but if I get the urge,I'll drive down to TJ and watch it for free at the Sports Book. This morning ,I don't feel that way. By tonight,I know I won't feel that way.

Picking Manny by KO in the later rounds. :bag:
I'll be watching the fight here at home, I'm lucky that I have James here who will split the 54.95 + tax with me, Roger, if you feel like driving north, you're wecome to watch the fight with us... :TU:

Frank
You're a hundred miles up the freeway. TJ is 20 miles south. Like I said. All the money I've spent on booze and broads. If I win my bet at the Sports Book,I'll blow it away on the usual. If I lose,I'll blow it anyway.

I'd rather watch the fight with James and you,but I have a feeling that I'll take everyone out for pizza tonight. Sorry Boom Boom Club. :(
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kikibalt wrote:My 94 year old uncle Louie passed away today (11-13-09)

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Uncle Louie

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Uncle Louie with my sister Rachel
Frank, I'm sorry to hear about your uncle Louie. He looked like he was a really nice guy. My condolences to you and your entire family.

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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:My 94 year old uncle Louie passed away today (11-13-09)

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Uncle Louie

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Uncle Louie with my sister Rachel
Frank
I remember that you talked about your Uncle Louie before. Sounds like he was quite a man. My sympathies with your family. Rog
Yeah, Roger, I posted these same pics last year, I shot 'em when we had a Sunday brunch for my sister Rachel, who had been told by her doctors that she had only 5-6 months to live, well she is still with us, but we lost uncle Louie.

Uncle Louie!, uncle Louie had a sad life, in the early 1940s he and his wife Vera lost three of their four children in a house fire, he never got over that, at that time I got real close to him, he would aways pick me up in his 1930 Ford Model A, where ever he went, I went with him, he also taught me how to drive in that Model A. In my eyes, he was a great man.... :bow: :bow:
Frank, there is a special place in heaven for your uncle Louie and aunt Vera. God bless them both.

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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image

My dad, Aurelio Baltazar, (11/12/1913--5/11/2000) barbecuing, circa-1972,
Legg Lake, South El Monte, Ca.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5IIXeR5OUI

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thanks, Roger, my dad used to love that song.... :bow:
Frank, your father strikes me as a man that knew how to get the most out of the simple things in life. My father was that way too.

I know we have discussed Legg Lake before. Growing up in Pico Rivera I spent a lot of time there. Put in a lot of miles there too. I still take walks there from time to time.

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Thanks, Randy, for all your kind words on my dad, uncle Louie and aunt Vera.... :TU:
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kikibalt wrote:Manny Pacquiao 144 vs Miguel Cotto 145

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By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports

Manny Pacquiao, just after weighing in at 144 pounds for his welterweight title fight against Miguel Cotto, slipped on a pair of custom Nikes. Cotto, who came it at the 145-pound limit, didn’t.

So when the two fighters were squared off in front of a delirious crowd at the MGM Grand Garden Arena, it was Pac-man who appeared to have the slightest of height advantages, staring just a little down his nose at the bare-footed Cotto.

The difference was the shoes, of course. Cotto stands 5-foot-7, Pacquiao is 5-6 by most measurements.

To further the visual allusion, Pacquiao had his pants pulled up high, so his waist line matched Cotto’s, who actually had his pants sagging a bit.

Whether the choice in footwear and pant length was just a coincidence or a planned intimidation tactic is unknown.

Considering Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, rarely misses a chance to play head games in title fights, we’ll go with the latter. If Cotto doesn’t get to enjoy the 28 or so hours between weigh-in and fight knowing he is clearly the bigger man, then that’s a small win for Pacquiao.

This is a fight about size. Or, at least, the prefight hype is about size. Everyone is wondering just how much bigger and stronger Cotto will be than Pacquiao and whether that is enough to offset Pacquiao’s speed and precision advantages.

The bigger man doesn’t always win, but it sure doesn’t hurt.

Take away the shoes and Cotto was bigger at the weigh-in. Only a pound separated them but Cotto was thicker through the chest and shoulders, a disparity that should only increase Saturday night.

If Cotto regains weight as expected, he should enter the ring weighing as much as 155 pounds. Pacquiao, who’s never fought at a weight this heavy, is unlikely to top 148. He is what he is, a guy who started his career at 106 pounds.

“(Cotto) will eat what he needs to eat,” said Cotto’s conditioning coach Phil Landman. “I have a meal plan set up for him. When he gets into the ring he’ll be at a comfortable weight no matter what he weighs. I don’t care what he weighs.”

Image

Pacquiao’s skill set has made a mockery of bigger fighters who thought they could bully him. He’s deftly moved up weight class after weight class and maintained his blinding speed.

Most recently, in December of 2008, Pacquiao stepped up to fight Oscar De La Hoya at 145 pounds. However, De La Hoya, who’d fought as high as 160, so drained himself in cutting weight that he was unable to bounce back. He entered the ring that night dehydrated and at 147 pounds, according to HBO. He was actually outweighed by Pacquiao, who was at 148.5

That shouldn’t happen with Cotto, which makes this latest step up dangerous for Pacquiao. You have to wonder when too much is too much.

“My strength is too much for (Saturday) night,” Cotto said after the weigh-in before adding, “I’m hungry.”

Pacquiao, of course, was unconcerned. He is forever unflappable. He waved to the throngs of Filipino fans who screamed for him during the weigh-in. He then encouraged them to attend a post-fight concert at Mandalay Bay where Pacquiao promised to sing eight songs with his band. Cotto had an equally sizeable group of fans on hand.

The fight is for the World Boxing Organization welterweight belt, although the weight limit was 145, not 147. The bigger prize is another likely mega-fight, this time in 2010 against Floyd Mayweather Jr. At the weigh-in, Floyd Mayweather Sr. said his son would likely fight the winner.

The two fighters offered no ill will to each other, each coolly confident. The fireworks came courtesy of the trainers, Roach and Joe Santiago.

When Cotto weighed in, Roach stood very close, bent over and got his eye right on the scale. He nodded when Cotto made weight, but it was clearly some kind of head game (it wasn’t like the Nevada Athletic Commission was going to screw up the weigh-in.)

The scene angered Santiago, who had listened to Roach bash him repeatedly in the press for being inexperienced and just a figurehead in the Cotto camp.

“It’s 145, (expletive),” Santiago shouted at Roach.

The (expletive) set Roach off and incited a back-and-forth shouting match. Eventually both trainers had to be separated as they jawed at each other.

Meanwhile, amid the commotion, Pacquiao put on his Nikes for the stand-off – just one head game to the next at the biggest fight of the year.

Dan Wetzel is Yahoo! Sports’ national columnist.

All Photos by Al Bello/ Getty Images
To tell you the truth I'm getting kind of tired of all the talk by Pacquiao's camp and the media about him being the smaller guy. They use this built in excuse before every fight. Yes, he at one time fought at 106 pounds. That was fifteen years ago. This is now. There is not that much difference between the two. Pacquiao is a great fighter and I give him his due but a truly great fighter would not have made Cotto come down in weight and Cotto was a fool to agree. Still, foolish or not, I'm picking Miguel Cotto. Hell, I could be wrong but I'm sensing an "Upset". I think Cotto is so focused and wants so badly to erase the memory of the Antonio Margarito fight, regardless of whether he was cheated or not. In fact, Cotto's confidence in himself should be bolstered by the fact that Margarito needed plaster of paris on his wraps.

I also think that if Cotto could handle Mosley's speed, he can handle Pacquiao's speed.

I don't think Cotto will stop Manny but I believe he'll win the fight.

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Picking Manny by KO in the later rounds. :bag:
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I'm with you, Rog. I believe that Manny will bust him up and stop him in the second half. :OhYes:
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To tell you the truth I'm getting kind of tired of all the talk by Pacquiao's camp and the media about him being the smaller guy.
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Randy, I agree that size will not be an issue in this fight because the two are almost identical in size. If anything, Pac's background as a lower weight fighter is a plus.
The guys he fights over 140lbs. are nowhere near as fast or skilled as the little guys that Pac came up fighting. Manny's eye was sharpened on the fastest of fast.
The larger boxers may have more single punch power than the smaller opponents, but they are slower. They have to land that punch, and that's a problem.
Manny's skills were honed on smaller, faster, more diverse opposition than what's found above 140. With all respect to Cotto, he is not as fast or talented as Berrera or Marquez.
And to address the focus of this post, he's not bigger than Manny. You are 100% right, Randy, both are full fledged welters today.
Look at both fighters in the pics above at the weigh-in. Manny is as trim as possible at 144 lbs. Cotto is only a pound heavier, and not much more by fight time.
I also believe that Cotto has some confidence problems. Margarito took a lot out of him, and Clottey was a very difficult fight for him. He's also had distractions in camp.
Manny has breezed thru his last two fights with Oscar and Hatton. We are talking about less than ten rounds of work in which he suffered no abuse whatsoever.
We may disagree who will win, but I agree that if Manny loses, it won't be because of size.


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USC - :witzend:
Stanford - :DDD

Frank, it hasn't been a good day for Charlie and I. :oops:
Next week, if the Trojans choke against UCLA . . . :oo
Yesterday was Friday the 13th. USC loses today. We'll see what tonight brings? :o
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Something for the West Coast guys here:

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TIME WAITS FOR NOBODY...INCLUDING CLINT EASTWOOD

I was standing in the checkout line the other day and saw Clint Eastwood on the cover of one of the tabloids. The headline read "Clint Eastwood Looking Frail and Gaunt." One could say he looked horrible,but Eastwood is 79 years old. What the hell are you supposed to look like when you're that age?

So we remember him as Dirty Harry kicking everyone's ass and we can't stand to see him any other way. Today in the news there's mention of him falling asleep on the movie set. He's directing another film. Comments from co workers are that he he looks tired and weak. Clint Eastwood is 79 years old.

If it was just the normal 79 year old person,we might say that he looks dignified in his "Golden Years." But this is Clint Eastwood. He still has to be kicking bad guys asses.

Some say he's trying to keep up appearances. Clint,are you doing it for us or can't you concede that you're 79 years old?

Maybe in this country,where youthfullness,is so important,it's hard for a lot of us to give in gracefully to Father Time. In other parts of the world, the later years of a life are revered. Wisdom,understanding,and experience are at their peaks.

In this country,one is getting long in the tooth when 40 years elapses. The only regret I have is that I didn't sink every nickel I had in Viagra stock.
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dagosd2000 wrote:TIME WAITS FOR NOBODY...INCLUDING CLINT EASTWOOD

I was standing in the checkout line the other day and saw Clint Eastwood on the cover of one of the tabloids. The headline read "Clint Eastwood Looking Frail and Gaunt." One could say he looked horrible,but Eastwood is 79 years old. What the hell are you supposed to look like when you're that age?

So we remember him as Dirty Harry kicking everyone's ass and we can't stand to see him any other way. Today in the news there's mention of him falling asleep on the movie set. He's directing another film. Comments from co workers are that he he looks tired and weak. Clint Eastwood is 79 years old.

If it was just the normal 79 year old person,we might say that he looks dignified in his "Golden Years." But this is Clint Eastwood. He still has to be kicking bad guys asses.

Some say he's trying to keep up appearances. Clint,are you doing it for us or can't you concede that you're 79 years old?

Maybe in this country,where youthfullness,is so important,it's hard for a lot of us to give in gracefully to Father Time. In other parts of the world, the later years of a life are revered. Wisdom,understanding,and experience are at their peaks.

In this country,one is getting long in the tooth when 40 years elapses. The only regret I have is that I didn't sink every nickel I had in Viagra stock.

Eastwood is the best in Hollywood. He has everybody's respect. He's still right on his game.


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Rick Farris wrote:USC - :witzend:
Stanford - :DDD

Frank, it hasn't been a good day for Charlie and I. :oops:
Next week, if the Trojans choke against UCLA . . . :oo
Yesterday was Friday the 13th. USC loses today. We'll see what tonight brings? :o
Damn Trojans! can't do nothing right, going to get their ass kicked again next week.... :witzend:
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Rick, Charlie is one depress dude today..... :OhYes:
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Manny Pac . . .

Personally, I believe that Manny Pac is the best fighter to step into the ring since Roberto Duran.
People think they know about Pac until they stand in front of him.
As Cotto said, "I've fought the best, and I didn't know where his punches were going to come from."
Heavy handed Cotto landed his shots too, the few that landed solid did nothing more than get Manny's attention.
Regardless of today's talent vs. yesterday, etc. I believe that Pac would have been competitive in any era.
An ideal match-up . . . Pac vs. Henry Armstrong. Homicide Henry was most comfortable fighting in the low 130's.


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Boxingnut wrote:El Gato and Frank (kikbalt)

Sadly I could not find out too much information about Allan Syres. His record on BoxRec is listed as 8-3-2 (2KO's). I couldn't find much after doing a Google search nor was he listed in any books I own. Great that he is being inducted into the Californian Boxing Hall of Fame, who would have thought a Scouser would do that? (A Scouser, by the way, is a slang term for someone who comes from Liverpool, England).
Bump. Can anyone give me any more info on Allan Syres?

Yeah, Boxingnut. The guy who can give you the best update is our "El Gato", Rodolfo Gonzalez. I know he and Barbara are going to check back in tonight, and I'll call to have him give this post special attention.

Gato & Syers talk weekly, and often attend boxing functions together. Gato told me that Syers has been battling cancer, but I don't know the details. You know, I bet Rodolfo would pass on your interest to Alan, and maybe he's "stop in" for a quick visit? Can't hurt to ask.


-Rick Farris
the allan syers your talkin about is my uncle, unlike said previously he isnt a scouser, that was just promotional when he was fighting, because the beatles were popular at the time, he was from warrington england, but moved to the us when he was 18 to further pro carreer, unlike his record on this site says , he actually had 17 wins 3 draws and 2 losses, losing to mando ramos was his most defining moment, he tells me he wasnt feeling himself on the night, due to cutting weight but had to fight for the purse, his career ended due to him having his fingers chopped off in an unfortunate accident at work, devistating. He was put onto the california hall of fame a few years back and frequent participant in boxing dinners around cali, now good friends with mando, and freddie roach, he introduced my dad to manny pacquiao not long back when he was visiting alla, Its true hes been battling cancer for years now, can only thank the superior treatments in the usa for this. Hes a true gentlemen, and a giant in our family, as our family is boxing oriented, my dad having been a good amatuer,aswell as my grandad, my grandads brother, allans son phil also boxing as an amatuer and lastly myself, having a amatuer career in muay thai ang boxing.
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