Tszyu turns down Warren offer

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 30 Dec 2004, 20:19

IBF jr welterweight champion Kostya Tszyu has nixed a $5 million+ offer negotiated between his promoter Vlad Warton and British promoter allegedly to fight Ricky Hatton in Manchester, England. Tszyu's manager Matt Watt stated, "If we choose to fight Hatton in Manchester it will be because the deal makes sense not because we were forced into it....the promoters must show the champion why he should fight at four in the morning in the other guy's backyard."

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Surprise surprise.

Dogders · Post by **Dogders** » 30 Dec 2004, 21:14

Gee, allegedly is great for the sport and british boxing! Why would anyone say somethin derogatory bout this fine chap?!? If you do, we will SUE! oh wait, I am gonna be sued for suggesting I am part of his outstanding counsel of tie men!

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 31 Dec 2004, 01:20

Harris has offered to step in and fight Hatton in Manchester, I hope for you British fight fans it comes off it would be a good fight why it lasted.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 31 Dec 2004, 05:43

IMO Hatton can't beat Tszyu anyway. Harris would still be a big fight, and just about winnable although I'd make Ricky underdog.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 31 Dec 2004, 07:47

I think both Harris and Tszyu have the beating of Hatton. Both throw excellent straight right hands which Hatton eats for breakfast. He obviously has a better chance against Harris but I think its an altogether different league fighting young champs with hunger compared to the guys he has been facing the last year.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 01 Jan 2005, 17:56

Well, Tszyu knows he will be stripped if he doesn't face Hatton, if they cannot agree terms, then of course it goes to bids, which won't favour hatton as he will almost certainly lose house advantage.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 01 Jan 2005, 18:34

Hope you've enjoyed your Christmas, James. You haven't posted for a while - nice to see you back.

Anyway on the Tszyu thing, I'm not sure why everyone is so convinced he will be stripped. Hatton was only the mandatory in October and Tszyu wasn't even champion before that. It could be up to 12 months (from Hatton beating Stewart) before they fight.

Look how long Eastman has had to wait.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 01 Jan 2005, 19:03

Ah well at least he might shut up and fianlly have a title if he beats Harris.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 01 Jan 2005, 20:12

I'm sure I have read somewhere allegedly that Warren asked "Why should we fight in the US at 4 in the morning". If that question was talking in the correct context then the answer is simple. Kostya is THE champ.

Kostya has come back well and has established himself as the number 1 in the world. If Hatton wins, he inherits the position. He MUST take this fight. Come on Ricky, make sure you accept his terms even if it means a pay cut.

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 02 Jan 2005, 11:42

Its just so fornicating insulting that he wants Tszyu to come to Manchester to fight. Who the fornicate do they think they are? Hatton is nothing on the world stage. They want the fight? Then come out and say Ricky will go down under for the fight and will take a pay cut. He would gain huge respect then.

ILikeBeer · Post by **ILikeBeer** » 02 Jan 2005, 12:12

Well, well, well. Another allegedly proposed fight falls through.

I really am surprised by this shocking development. I have enjoyed the Harrison vs Skelton fight that Warren delivered so much, that I was looking forward to this one.

I'm being sarcastic by the way.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 02 Jan 2005, 12:31

Jay Larkin was being interviewed on Radio 5 this morning about the proposed Tzsyu V Hatton fight.

He seemed to thing that Manchester was the prefered option financially, the dates they were looking at were the first Saturdays in April, May and June. He seemed to be very keen for the fight to happen.

He was under the impression that Tszyu was just holing out for a bit more money.

JimmyJamJerusalem · Post by **JimmyJamJerusalem** » 02 Jan 2005, 12:35

I shant hear another bad word said about allegedly. His word is GOLD. Every fight he promises happens, he never tells fibs, and the sun shine out of his arse.... or is that what he talks through!? Never has one mans greed been so detrimental to a sport. Don King II?

JimmyJamJerusalem · Post by **JimmyJamJerusalem** » 02 Jan 2005, 12:39

Nice it automatically inserts allegedly when you write allegedly. Allegedly allegedly allegedly screwed an alleged goat. This allegedly happened in frank warrens alleged garden

sorry too much fun

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 03 Jan 2005, 06:52

Is Hatton scared to fight outside of the UK seems that the alot of last fights have been there. Maybe having it down under would be better than watching it at 4 in morning and could be on earlier. Hatton should try other options if wants to become a world champion though seriously Danny took a lower paycut against Tyson and look were it got him(don't mean him getting beat).

Good that Kostya wants to get more money out of Warren to fight in Manchester though.

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 03 Jan 2005, 07:53

Max Molyneux wrote:Is Hatton scared to fight outside of the UK seems that the alot of last fights have been there. Maybe having it down under would be better than watching it at 4 in morning and could be on earlier. Hatton should try other options if wants to become a world champion though seriously Danny took a lower paycut against Tyson and look were it got him(don't mean him getting beat).

Good that Kostya wants to get more money out of Warren to fight in Manchester though.

He has fought in Germany and 3 times in the USA

Not in the past 4 / 5 years though.

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 03 Jan 2005, 08:22

We are supposed to be British fight fans, but all I see are people moaning that Zoo shouldnt have to come to the UK to fight Hatton?

Nowt stranger than folk.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 03 Jan 2005, 08:31

Twinkle Toes wrote:We are supposed to be British fight fans, but all I see are people moaning that Zoo shouldnt have to come to the UK to fight Hatton?

Nowt stranger than folk.

British fight fans yes, but even bigger Boxing fans. And perhaps not biased enough to call it as we see it.

And that is in this situation Ricky Hatton is very much the challenger...

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 03 Jan 2005, 09:16

Talking of fights in Australia.

Didn't Sky show Joe Bugner V James Smith live in the UK at about 1pm on a Saturday afternoon?

Just a thought.

Maddawg · Post by **Maddawg** » 03 Jan 2005, 11:33

Twinkle Toes wrote:We are supposed to be British fight fans, but all I see are people moaning that Zoo shouldnt have to come to the UK to fight Hatton?

Nowt stranger than folk.

You are a bit strange aren't you with a comment like that

Why the fukc should Zoo come to Manchester?

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 03 Jan 2005, 12:23

....same procedure as always.....

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 03 Jan 2005, 12:51

From secondsout.com. 30 minutes ago.

A reliable source close to undisputed world light-welterweight champion Kostya Tszyu has confirmed that the Russian born Australian is willing to take on Ricky Hatton at the MEN Arena in Manchester sometime in June.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 Jan 2005, 14:02

I have just spoken to someone close to tszyu, who tells me the same thing. apparently, the disputes are between Tszyu and his promoter, not with Warren. Tszyu is unhappy with his terms with his own promoter, and not with Warren or Hatton, and says he is happy to travel to fight hatton.

Nothing is ever as black and white as it seems.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 03 Jan 2005, 14:30

i hope that's true, but if it is warren will have to find another way of weaseling out of the fight.

Tszyu turns down Warren offer

Tszyu turns down Warren offer

suprise surprise surprise