Are editors allowed to talk to fans this way?

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 05 Jan 2005, 02:22

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barry wrote:
Exactly what smart tones are you disillusional about, it was a question? You have been on this site for what, less than a month and the only thing that you have contributed is the same question over and over! I've been an editor here since the site started and have contributed more to the site about boxing than you ever will, so don't get smart with me, or I'll have your ass thrown off the board!

barry · Post by **barry** » 05 Jan 2005, 02:52

Most people are just going to laugh at you for being such a whiny paintywaist and ignore your little cries (this is a boxing website, not some 10-step program for chronic sissys), but why not let every one read the entire post, as well as the other threads that you have followed me on, you f---ing stalker!

http://www.boxrec.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=23753

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 05 Jan 2005, 02:58

barry wrote:Most people are just going to laugh at you for being such a whiny paintywaist and ignore your little cries (this is a boxing website, not some 10-step program for chronic sissys), but why not let every one read the entire post, as well as the other threads that you have followed me on, you f---ing stalker!

http://www.boxrec.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=23753

barry · Post by **barry** » 05 Jan 2005, 03:03

Good! Stop following me and where I post and you will never ever have to hear my rudeness again! Also sorry, but I lost my humanity about a year ago!

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 05 Jan 2005, 03:22

barry wrote:Good! Stop following me and where I post and you will never ever have to hear my rudeness again! Also sorry, but I lost my humanity about a year ago!

joshua · Post by **joshua** » 05 Jan 2005, 03:31

Barry you have been one of the most influential people on this site and I compend you on that also your unselfishness in regards to you letting other eidtors get the credit for posting your research on boxrec is very comendible. I myself have used websites that you have posted to enter fights you are a great editor and I hope you continue your excelent research no matter what anyone else has to say. Once again THANK YOU and keep up the excellent work.

burn27 · Post by **burn27** » 05 Jan 2005, 04:10

Lex i was staying out of this one cause i hadn't seen the whole thread and i myself am newer than you here. But after having read the link to the whole thread i think you may have over reacted a little mate. This bloke Barry asked one question (to which i didnt sense any tone) and you just fly off the handle.

have a couple of Beers and relax mate.

barry · Post by **barry** » 05 Jan 2005, 04:28

Guys, thank you for your support, but the fact that I am so rude has really got me to thinkng and I think the best thing for me to do is just quit the site all together! Nah, just kidding. It's funny, this person thinks it is tragic that a kid might accidentially read the word ass when there is so much more terrible things for them to endure in the world. For instance, some kids have to grow up watching their mommy go from one man to another, and another, and another without having a decent father in their lives for very long, this I can speak from experience as I know someone who has done just that to their child, sure a hell of a lot worse than a kid running up on ass on a message board, especially since they hear a lot worse on regular television stations, or even worse some kids are dying from starvation, which is really what self-rightous people should be focusing on instead of what someone says, but insecurity is overwhelming for some people! Again thanks for your support and sorry that you had to waste your time with it!

meatloaf · Post by **meatloaf** » 05 Jan 2005, 05:18

Is this a place for public debate or strictly for boxing? To say the least being a Father and I just joined this site after reading the conditions of joining it clearly states you are 13 years of age older, also listed is conditions of rules each party must follow. Although there are many reason for people and parents concerns in everyday life such as smoking, drinking, drugs, I do feel any wording with profanity is not approriate for a child to view even if part of the word is x out the meaning is still there. Being old school such forums should not be a place for such behavior of what is thought to be adults or a place to put public poll of another human being.

barry · Post by **barry** » 05 Jan 2005, 05:25

I think that kids have a lot worse that they can run into on the internet than this message board, or the word ass! If you don't like it, then don't read it, but I'd just about be willing to bet that you have a similar ISP as Lex, if not I apologize for saying so, but we will see! By the way, just curious, but isn't the nickname "meatloaf" contradictory to your views?

Tomato-Can · Post by **Tomato-Can** » 05 Jan 2005, 07:20

I think it is entirely appropriate for newcomers to tell those who helped build this site tell them what they can or cannot say or do.

Get a life Lex.

barry · Post by **barry** » 05 Jan 2005, 09:16

As it turned out I was correct. Lex and meatloaf are one and the same person posting from the same IP address. Sure says a lot about who leaves the argument the better person, so now will you leave me alone. I told you that you would just end up looking stupid if you tried to one-up me, now why don't you troll on over to some other website because you have just about worn out your welcome here unless you want to send another complaint to the newest moderator of the forum, hey wait a minute I’m the newest moderator and being the honest, thoughtful and fair person that I am, you have one more chance, unless the other two moderators think you should go!

barry · Post by **barry** » 05 Jan 2005, 23:58

What's wrong Lex, afraid that I might use your posts against you some way, so you edit them and try to erase everything that you said to me? Don't worry, I copied and pasted everything that you said, not to mention the other witnesses, as well as the owner and other moderator that you sent your little pm message to on the board who read how you were harrasing me, so this little stunt just blew right up in your face didn't it? I can't wait to find out who the ISP number belongs to as there may be some legal ramifications to your ignorance!

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 06 Jan 2005, 10:00

Simply put if kid are going to be offended by any language they read on this site then you have to wonder whether they shouldn't just stick to netball forums (if there are any!) after all boxing is not pillow fighting and if there are any little uns afraid of words like damn etc then they should not be exposed to such a 'violent and nasty' sport such as boxing in the first place!.
Anyway keep up the good work Barry and just remember as we say in England... 'Theres nowt so strange as folk!'..... 8)

robert.snell1 · Post by **robert.snell1** » 06 Jan 2005, 10:53

silkov wrote:Simply put if kid are going to be offended by any language they read on this site then you have to wonder whether they shouldn't just stick to netball forums (if there are any!) after all boxing is not pillow fighting and if there are any little uns afraid of words like damn etc then they should not be exposed to such a 'violent and nasty' sport such as boxing in the first place!.
Anyway keep up the good work Barry and just remember as we say in England... 'Theres nowt so strange as folk!'..... 8)

or some people are bloody stupid.

As for "Barry" he has made a great contribution to this site and he does so for free along with the other people. This community of boxing fans works because people share information and are prepared to listen to other peoples views etc.

editors have no rights other than they are able to input information for others to share so saying "can they say this to other people" is quite to be honest very odd.

i think my good friend Silkov made the point quite well

barry · Post by **barry** » 06 Jan 2005, 11:42

As it turns out the person who singled out the stalker-like attack on me is someone who lives near me, I am almost sure that is who it is although I am not positive yet, but I will certainly find out. Hiding behind a computer, safe in his home is the only way he would ever think about speaking to me, but instead of going to jail for beating him senseless, I'll take the matter to court as there are other charges pertaining to his girlfriend and I, but I might need some of you editors who read the threads to write a testimony on my behalf since he edited and removed all the crap he wrote, but I'll get back to you on that if needed! I bet his stomach has been full of butterflies ever since I found out the IP address though! Lex/meatloaf/casper will not post against me again, unless it is from a public access computer, but I doubt even that!

robert.snell1 · Post by **robert.snell1** » 06 Jan 2005, 12:06

you have my support ,friend

barry · Post by **barry** » 06 Jan 2005, 12:25

Thanks Robert! One other thing for lex/meatloaf if he happens to have the nerve to read this thread again, you better go to the doctor and get checked for Hepititas C because I know your girlfriend has not told you that she has it because she did not tell me that she had it until we had already been getting busy for well over a month, which inturn she transmitted HEP-C to me, I haven't decided if I want to have her charged for that yet, or not because it would be very serious for someone with as many active felonies as she has! If you don't believe me, check her prison records. You should also probably ask her about the debt that comes with her, which is around $20,000, bet she hasn't told you that either, if fact, I bet there is a lot that she hasn't told you, like how she got hep-c (5, or 6 years of needle dope) and a whole slew of other things! She has so many skeletons in her closet that it makes the catacombs of Paris look minature in stature!

casper · Post by **casper** » 06 Jan 2005, 14:10

thanks

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 06 Jan 2005, 14:15

barry wrote:Thanks Robert! One other thing for lex/meatloaf if he happens to have the nerve to read this thread again, you better go to the doctor and get checked for Hepititas C because I know your girlfriend has not told you that she has it because she did not tell me that she had it until we had already been getting busy for well over a month, which inturn she transmitted HEP-C to me, I haven't decided if I want to have her charged for that yet, or not because it would be very serious for someone with as many active felonies as she has! If you don't believe me, check her prison records. You should also probably ask her about the debt that comes with her, which is around $20,000, bet she hasn't told you that either, if fact, I bet there is a lot that she hasn't told you!

barry · Post by **barry** » 06 Jan 2005, 14:35

Whatever you say numbnuts! 10-25-71 is my birthday, but the others don't mean dick to me, and all of the other people that you mentioned that was me responding to my own posts, well they are all known editors and members of the site. As to the IP address, well the owner of this site sent me that information and lex and meatloaf were both from the IPS 68.234.114.233, and the owner also said that casper looked to be from the same person because all three are from the same subnet, besides it looks like casper just all of a sudden appeared at the same time that you did lex, cohoots, or coincidence, you be the judge! What made me suspicious is after you starting your harassing, I started thinking and lex is the name of a dog I had! I doubt very seriously that I am wrong about who it is, but I will know very shortly who's name operates from the 68.234.114.233 ISP portal!

barry · Post by **barry** » 06 Jan 2005, 14:43

Just because a person who's hepatitis-c has went in remission it doesn't mean that they don't have it any more, it can pop right back up and it can be transmitted, although it's difficult. I may be wrong about who I intially thought it was, so if this is Mike Cargill, but of course if it is Cargill, you only have balls behind a computer and 3000 miles across the continent and you correspond to one of the people that I orginially suspected! By the way, why do you cotinue to erase every post in response to me? I'm going to give a couple more people time to read this and then you will be blocked tomorrow!

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 06 Jan 2005, 15:38

You speak of harassment. If the administrators and the other moderators would read all the post and mainly your post they would see a great deal of harassment from only you along with slanderour and possible threatening post by you and you only. I ask you on a few different times to just drop this and let it go. I told that I was here on this site for the intrest only in boxing. I even told you that I was not going to reply to anymore and ask you to stop posting replies but for reason you kept on everyday making post towards me & others. You wanted me to reply to you. In one of your post you said you was dropping it then you came back with another attack. Anyone who compares your post to mine will clearly see my post were applicable to state laws, I wouldn't say that your post were/are not applicable within the state laws. By all means please do have me blocked today don't wait until the next day if this is within your power do so now. This is one site I do not want to enter again. There's nice people here and then they are people like you. If one disagrees with another that's fine but why do you wish to carry on a fuss. Everyday you have tried your best to get a reply from me and looks like from other's. If a person that has the power to block or delete my account please do so asap. This has gotten way out of hand and for reason unkown. There is many other forums on the net other than this one. As of this moment I will not enter this site again. So you post or replies you place up will not be read by me. This issue is dropped. Do as you wish but you will not at any time be speaking to me. If you for sure think you have my isp, then use your power as a moderator and block it. Maybe you should read all your post & replies and may wish to delete them, when it comes right down to the matter of harassment, slander, language you fall under those. By the rules of this site, you have broken the rules. I have your ISP and I will let this issue float away unless you make another reply like you have been. On my end the matter is dropped, now it's upto you.

barry · Post by **barry** » 06 Jan 2005, 16:18

Well, as my post about dropping the issue previously states I would have dropped it, but just as anyone who has been following the post can attest, and believe me there are a few, you continued to harass and stalk me over and over after I said drop it and of course I've never been one to back down from anything, especially since I was clueless to who it was until you made it very suspicous as to who it was and after I asked the owner to send me the IP address of meatloaf and lex, and since the subnet that their posting was from is Virginia, it was somewhat clear as to who it was, but still not certain! A person could read clause 8 and 9 of a certain seperation agreement, which plainly lists certain no-no's! One would be for someone to come stalking me into a site that I have been a respected member of and editor for for around five years and harass me on my home turf, not yours, and try to have me thrown off the site, especially since I have had no contact at all to that person for a long time and no desire to have any contact with the person as she is nothing but a piece of trash that I am certainly better off without and glad to be rid of! Since I became suspiscous about the poster lex, I'm not the only person in my house that has been reading the posts, nor am I ever alone whenever I go somewhere, so no lies can be started and told this time, especially with a polygraph machine handy!

barry · Post by **barry** » 06 Jan 2005, 16:19

By the way, you don't need my isp, my name is Barry Deskins, I live in North Tazewell, Virginia, who are you? And if you are so innocent like you say, why have you continued to erase every single post that you have harassed me on, something to hide? I know it wasn't Mike Cargill who posted!

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