Does Warren take the piss or what?

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 10 Jan 2005, 04:24

Warren furious as Tszyu jumps the gun over Hatton bout

John Rawling
Monday January 10, 2005
The Guardian

The long-awaited showdown between the world No1 light welterweight Kostya Tszyu and the undefeated Mancunian Ricky Hatton is set to take place in Manchester on June 4, even though promoter allegedly last night accused the Tszyu camp of prematurely announcing the contest before details had been confirmed and contracts signed.

On his website, the Russian-born Australian national announced a 4am start for the bout, which will probably take place at Manchester's MEN Arena, and disclosed that he would be paid in the region of $5m (£2.7m) to surrender home advantage to the challenger for his International Boxing Federation version of the world title.

"It feels good that a deal has been done for my next fight. It gives me focus for the year ahead," said the 35-year-old.

"I'm excited to be fighting Ricky because I believe he is a worthy challenger. This is the fight I want to see, so I look forward to putting on a good show for them."

But Warren insists the deal is not done, and strongly criticised Tszyu for conducting his affairs in the media. "It is totally amateur, and I am pissed off about it," said Warren.

"They say they are calling a press conference in Australia to talk about a fight that is not yet done.

"I would have thought that I might know whether or not this fight is happening, because I am the one who is putting up the money, and I assure you that I have signed for nothing.

"There are still issues that need to be resolved, and we should have a proper agreement in place before fans are told that the fight is going to happen."

Warren is understood to have rejected demands for changes to the original verbal agreement he thrashed out with Tszyu's promoter Vlad Warton last month and said he had made no contact with Tszyu after sending a solicitor's letter on Friday effectively saying his offer for the fight was non-negotiable.

A major stumbling block could yet be the proposed 4am Manchester start time for the contest to allow for a live US prime-time broadcast on the cable network Showtime, with whom Tszyu is under contract.

Warren, whose own contract to provide boxing for Sky TV is due for renewal in the summer, will be under considerable pressure to stage the fight at a time acceptable to what would be a massive pay-per-view British audience.

The possibility of such a late start time would create significant security issues in Manchester, and it is not yet clear whether World Boxing Union title holder Hatton has agreed to the terms being offered for his side of the contract.

"The one good thing about Tszyu jumping the gun is that it shows he has decided he will fight Ricky after talking about wanting to face people like Oscar de la Hoya," Warren added, after weeks when the fight seemed unlikely to go ahead.

The champion had discussed the logistics of meeting a number of future opponents after returning to the ring in November, following a 22-month lay-off due to injury, to defeat the highly rated American boxer Sharmba Mitchell. The devastating performance, which saw him emerge victorious inside three rounds, suggested he had lost none of his considerable powers.

What a fornicating hypocrite

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 10 Jan 2005, 05:33

i wouldn't be surprised if warren used this as a reason for weaseling out.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 10 Jan 2005, 05:58

What a fornicating hypocrite - he is having a laugh surely? The king of the premature announcement himself!!

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 10 Jan 2005, 06:14

he's definately trying to get out of the fight and has probably pissed his pants after tszyu called his bluff.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Jan 2005, 06:22

Bloody hello, there's the pot calling the kettle black.

I seem to recall Sports Network announcing that the fight was almost a done deal before they had Tszyu's signature on the contracts.

If this all unravels I'm going to be very very dissapointed.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Jan 2005, 06:24

Also, what happened to Warren being open to changing the terms of the contract if it was 'a deal breaker.'

I'm getting the horrors about this one. However, I did speak to someone last night in Oz who told me that the fight is a done deal, so perhaps this is just for bragging rights of who gets to announce the fight....

coneye · Post by **coneye** » 10 Jan 2005, 08:11

Tell you now i'm back in Oz at the moment , Its a done deal , well at least where Zoo is concerned anyway.

He's called Fwanks bluff , and what do you know Fwanks got the shits, he's looking for a way out and thats all there is too it.

Fwank, Hatton and Graham will now have settled down and studied Zoo , in doing so they have relized he's still got it , and they can forget about just stayingh away from the right hand watch all Zoo's fights and you'll soon relize so many of his opponents, get caught with the right , because there trying to move away from the left hook .

His left hook to the body or headis just has capable of taking anyone out.

Plus the fact that even though he's on the wrong side of 30 , he's not had too many wars and his still in great shape.

All in all I believe Fwank never thought for one minuite that Kosta would take it in Manchester , but Kosta called his bluff and Fwankie boy is now a very worried man.
READ MY LIPS , IT WON'T HAPPEN FWANK WILL FIND A EXCUSE.
Magee hope your legs better your phone's gonna ring late May

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 10 Jan 2005, 08:55

coneye wrote: Magee hope your legs better your phone's gonna ring late May

That wouldn't surprise me in the least.

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 10 Jan 2005, 09:43

Should we still give Warrem credit?

chris s · Post by **chris s** » 10 Jan 2005, 10:07

Warren announced terms has been agreed with Vlad wharton the day after hatton beat Oliveira so what is the problem now.

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 10 Jan 2005, 10:12

chris s wrote:Warren announced terms has been agreed with Vlad wharton the day after hatton beat Oliveira so what is the problem now.

MONEY>>>Tszu mentioned the money on offer...not FW

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Jan 2005, 10:29

That's a good point, never thought about that, I can see why that would piss a promoter off.

Didn't allegedly mention there was a term in the contracts of NON DISCLOSURE OF PURSES.

You may have hit the nail on the head there. Perhaps he didn't want anyone knowing what Tszyu was getting....maybe Hatton has seen it and choked on his pie.

It's all guesswork though, I just want to hear that it's signed sealed and delivered....

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 10 Jan 2005, 11:10

My thinking was along the lines of ,

1. A `said` amount on offer at the beginning of talks (to get the interested party..well interested)

2. Once interested, you explain why the `said` amount will not be possible.

3. The interested party agreed to the `said` amount. Before listening to the second point.

Does that make sense??

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 10 Jan 2005, 12:30

Warren anounced this fight before Tszyu even knew who Hatton was. He's got to be joking. Maybe Ricky has came out and said he wants more money. Or maybe FW never really expected Tszyu to accept and now that he has he's looking for a way out.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Jan 2005, 12:34

Tszyu knew who hatton was, because he kept going on about how he wasn't going to face him for months before the fight began being talked about.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 10 Jan 2005, 13:53

So has Kostya called Mr. Allegedly's bluff by signing for this fight or what? Could a Calzaghe style "pull out" be on the cards? The plot thickens

ILikeBeer · Post by **ILikeBeer** » 10 Jan 2005, 15:43

Seriously, Warren wants to sort himself out. Actually, with all the money he's earning, that is exactly what he does I suppose.

Man, I'd laugh heartily if this fight comes off and Hatton gets knocked spark out. If I was Tszyu I'd offer to go to Manchester to take the fight, for free

I wonder what Warren would do. Probably say he asked for too much money.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 10 Jan 2005, 16:01

Can't say I'm surprised! Frwank must be wetting himself that Kostya has actually said he's willing to come to Manchester and fight and is now clinging onto the 4am start time as a way out! ....this 'fight' will not happen!.
Thanks Wank!. 8)

Zhuge · Post by **Zhuge** » 10 Jan 2005, 23:41

Just one quick thing for FW and Hatton to consider:

Does it really make sense to piss off Kostya? Zab Judah did it. Sharmba did it in the rematch. Now, it's likely he's feeling disrespected by these two. Doesn't bode well for Hatton if he's fired up, properly trained, and angry coming into the fight.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 11 Jan 2005, 12:45

Zhuge wrote:Just one quick thing for FW and Hatton to consider:

Does it really make sense to piss off Kostya? Zab Judah did it. Sharmba did it in the rematch. Now, it's likely he's feeling disrespected by these two. Doesn't bode well for Hatton if he's fired up, properly trained, and angry coming into the fight.

I'm pretty sure that Kostya will ko Hatton... 8)

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 11 Jan 2005, 12:48

It's amazing the way Fwanks been carrying on... its as if wicky was the champ and Kostya the challenger!. I sense its all part of Warrens desperate plan to piss Kostya off so much that he calls off the fight and is so then stripped of title, leaving wicky to fight the faded Ndou.