Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

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Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

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bollox,

its ok for hopkins to beat pavlik convincingly but its not ok for green to fight bernard. utter rubbish!
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And which ranked contender did Hopkins beat to earn the right to fight Pavlik? :??
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Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

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toppity,

your post is spot on.


bollox,


r u serious?

u r questioning bernard hopkins fight record pre pavlik fight, surely u r kidding.

and u can say what u like about roys ability at this stage but i'm telling u that prime roy still loses the fight vs green. he simply got tagged by a big puncher who's hunger is second to none. also the general public did also know that roy was no spring chicken but because of his achievements it warranted for a fight that they were not wanting to miss.

u saw jones ability with each punch that he landed on green, albeit only a handful. danny as with all jones' opponents just have no answer for his speed and accuracy. and as such green knew he was best to stop the fight for himself as soon as possible.
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Hopkins is the fight everyone wants, but im not to sure hopkins himself wants it.
if i were green and his camp i would look at :
Bika, would be a real fan freindly fight, would be easy to arrange as well imo
Hopkins, obvious one, but not sure it would happen
Mundine, looks unlikley to, but money talks, choc knows he is finished and might want a big paycheck before he goes.
Campillo, winnable fight could also make danny a two time WBA 175 champ, which could help him in negociations for other fights.
or Johnson, again winnable and could get some good exposure in the US.

talk of holyfeld is stupid, last thing holyfeild needs now is more punches in the head
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Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

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buster007 wrote:toppity,

your post is spot on.


bollox,


r u serious?

u r questioning bernard hopkins fight record pre pavlik fight, surely u r kidding.

and u can say what u like about roys ability at this stage but i'm telling u that prime roy still loses the fight vs green. he simply got tagged by a big puncher who's hunger is second to none. also the general public did also know that roy was no spring chicken but because of his achievements it warranted for a fight that they were not wanting to miss.

u saw jones ability with each punch that he landed on green, albeit only a handful. danny as with all jones' opponents just have no answer for his speed and accuracy. and as such green knew he was best to stop the fight for himself as soon as possible.
surely you're taking the piss :oops: :oops: :oops:
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what about erdei, i reckon green could win that to, both are smalish cruisers. i know erdies german promotors ussualy feed him soft ones, but like drews he could be persuaded to perth, sydney or melbourne for the right cash, and green machine seems to be the richest promotors in the country
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I hope Green tests himself on the open market but I'm starting to think he will head towards a Mundine rematch.

Out of all the names been thrown around, Mundine is still his biggest pay day by far. A second fight would be mega millions for both...heck, the first fight made em both rich.
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i know green would accept to level the score, but i don't believe mundine would really want it at this stage. at light heavyweight i think he would be somewhat concerned at his chances. but he does seem to be fighting for money and money only.
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buster007 wrote:i'm telling u that prime roy still loses the fight vs green.
damn, you lost credibility here...
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perfect jet wrote:Out of all the names been thrown around, Mundine is still his biggest pay day by far. A second fight would be mega millions for both...heck, the first fight made em both rich.
I'd say fighting Hopkins, which opens the door to the American Public, would be a better payday...
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Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

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Your name says it all BOLLOX :box:
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lost credibility?

the guy got tagged with a ripper of a shot. end of story.
it happens. that's boxing. some of the most skillful boxers in history have been ko'd by much less talented fighters than themselves because they were fighting guys that bang.
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ben k wrote:Green VS Adamek is a 50/50 fight at 180 pounds. Briggs and Green are very evenly matched skill wise. Adamek VS Briggs were even fights that could have gone either way. Briggs hurt Adamek in there fights and Green hits harder than Briggs IMO.
Adamek weighed 214 in his last fight. He is not a Cruiserweight anymore.
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hard to imagine he would come down to a catch weight.
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i'm glad adamek was mentioned. it is the most realistic fight, i believe. adamek has shown he will fight the most interesting/dangerous opponent that brings in a bit of money - as was the case vs jon banks. he would come down to cruiser for a title fight (ring mag title). he IS still the champ. IF it can get some US TV money, and considering it's for a recognised title, not to mention a thrilling style matchup, i hope it happens.

green would do alright vs adamek. adamek is upright - despite his power, savvy and toughness - and green does have a powerful jab and brutal body shots. he could perhaps do some of the things that briggs did, though admittedly adamek has improved his skills and is fitter at cruiser.

we have to consider, adamek won't land a big heavyweight fight until late 2010 - probably a tough elim fight, v someone like chagaev or boytsov. he can't possibly fight for a heavyweight title, until 2011. he'd make a reappearance as THE cruiser champ, if a good fight can be made for good money. he was interested in the hopkins-RJJ 2 winner, but how about the guy who did RJJ in a round - danny green?
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Brute wrote:
ben k wrote:Green VS Adamek is a 50/50 fight at 180 pounds. Briggs and Green are very evenly matched skill wise. Adamek VS Briggs were even fights that could have gone either way. Briggs hurt Adamek in there fights and Green hits harder than Briggs IMO.
Adamek weighed 214 in his last fight. He is not a Cruiserweight anymore.
brute - do you not want adamek to beat green, or something?

adamek is still the cruiserweight champ, and is open to any moderately big fight down at cruiser.

adamek was at a low weight for the golota fight, giving him speed, AND allowing him to move back down in weight if the opportunity arises.

and: aren't holyfield and haye - whom green and team are open to fighting - bigger heavyweights than adamek?
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Marlin wrote:
perfect jet wrote:Out of all the names been thrown around, Mundine is still his biggest pay day by far. A second fight would be mega millions for both...heck, the first fight made em both rich.
I'd say fighting Hopkins, which opens the door to the American Public, would be a better payday...
didn't hopkins still call out jones, even after green KO'd jones in a round?
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Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

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With Adamek moving up to heavyweight the IBF Cruiserweight title is vacant. Maybe the IBF will contact Green to fight for it.
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Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

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IBF Rankings Nov 09

1 Steve Cunningham United States
2 NOT RATED
3 Matt Godfrey United States
4 Grigory Drodz Russian Federation
5 Troy Ross Canada
6 B.J. Flores United States
7 Yoan Pablo Hernandez Germany
8 Denis Lebedev Russian Federation
9 Enad Licina Germany
10 Vadim Tokarev Russian Federation
11 Krzysztof Wlodarczyk Poland
12 Alexander Frenkel Germany
13 Francisco Palacios Puerto Rico
14 Enzo Maccarinelli Wallis And Futuna
15 Pawel Kolodziej Poland
I guess they could install Green at number two and saction a fight between him and Cunningham, although Green isn't even rated in the top 15 lightheavy's in the IBF.
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Having a look at the Light Heavy title holders you'd have to think Green would stand a very good chance against any of them...
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Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

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Marlin wrote:
IBF Rankings Nov 09

1 Steve Cunningham United States
2 NOT RATED
3 Matt Godfrey United States
4 Grigory Drodz Russian Federation
5 Troy Ross Canada
6 B.J. Flores United States
7 Yoan Pablo Hernandez Germany
8 Denis Lebedev Russian Federation
9 Enad Licina Germany
10 Vadim Tokarev Russian Federation
11 Krzysztof Wlodarczyk Poland
12 Alexander Frenkel Germany
13 Francisco Palacios Puerto Rico
14 Enzo Maccarinelli Wallis And Futuna
15 Pawel Kolodziej Poland
I guess they could install Green at number two and saction a fight between him and Cunningham, although Green isn't even rated in the top 15 lightheavy's in the IBF.
Those are November ratings. December may say different. Green beat Jones in December.
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Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

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buster007 wrote:toppity,

your post is spot on.


bollox,


r u serious?

u r questioning bernard hopkins fight record pre pavlik fight, surely u r kidding.

and u can say what u like about roys ability at this stage but i'm telling u that prime roy still loses the fight vs green. he simply got tagged by a big puncher who's hunger is second to none. also the general public did also know that roy was no spring chicken but because of his achievements it warranted for a fight that they were not wanting to miss.

u saw jones ability with each punch that he landed on green, albeit only a handful. danny as with all jones' opponents just have no answer for his speed and accuracy. and as such green knew he was best to stop the fight for himself as soon as possible.


you must be kidding!! Roy jones prime demolishes green... Jones jr had a pretty good chin in his younger days...
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Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

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Marlin wrote:
perfect jet wrote:Out of all the names been thrown around, Mundine is still his biggest pay day by far. A second fight would be mega millions for both...heck, the first fight made em both rich.
I'd say fighting Hopkins, which opens the door to the American Public, would be a better payday...
Long term, yes you are right there but for his next fight, if it was out of Mundine or Hopkins...Mundine pays more by far.
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Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

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Marlin wrote:
IBF Rankings Nov 09

1 Steve Cunningham United States
2 NOT RATED
3 Matt Godfrey United States
4 Grigory Drodz Russian Federation
5 Troy Ross Canada
6 B.J. Flores United States
7 Yoan Pablo Hernandez Germany
8 Denis Lebedev Russian Federation
9 Enad Licina Germany
10 Vadim Tokarev Russian Federation
11 Krzysztof Wlodarczyk Poland
12 Alexander Frenkel Germany
13 Francisco Palacios Puerto Rico
14 Enzo Maccarinelli Wallis And Futuna
15 Pawel Kolodziej Poland
I guess they could install Green at number two and saction a fight between him and Cunningham, although Green isn't even rated in the top 15 lightheavy's in the IBF.
Nah, you need to be rated in the top 15 with the IBF and then petition for an elimination fight for either the #2 or #1 spots. It's usually the highest available contenders who petition for those spots...well actually it's the highest available contender with the biggest, richest, cosy promoter LOL.
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Re: Angelo Hyder on Green's options.

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RAB2204 wrote:
buster007 wrote:toppity,

your post is spot on.


bollox,


r u serious?

u r questioning bernard hopkins fight record pre pavlik fight, surely u r kidding.

and u can say what u like about roys ability at this stage but i'm telling u that prime roy still loses the fight vs green. he simply got tagged by a big puncher who's hunger is second to none. also the general public did also know that roy was no spring chicken but because of his achievements it warranted for a fight that they were not wanting to miss.

u saw jones ability with each punch that he landed on green, albeit only a handful. danny as with all jones' opponents just have no answer for his speed and accuracy. and as such green knew he was best to stop the fight for himself as soon as possible.


you must be kidding!! Roy jones prime demolishes green... Jones jr had a pretty good chin in his younger days...
Thats the problem, he didnt get tagged on the chin, he was smacked on the side of the temple :DD
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