Australian Boxer of the Year

Australian Fighter of the Year?

Danny Green
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47%
Michael Katsidis
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47%
Other
2
7%
 
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Australian Boxer of the Year

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The year is drawing to an end so please cast your votes on who was the most successful boxer of 2009. I thought the obvious choices were Green and Katsidis, both with a few good wins and finishing with an IBO title and an interim WBO title respectively.

I'm a bit torn on this one. I rate WBO over IBO but with Green's win over Jones and the resulting publicity for Aus boxing makes this a tough one for me personally.

I'm guessing most will go with Green...?
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Re: Australian Boxer of the Year

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IBO baby
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Honestly if it wasnt for the GREEN v JONES JR fight, Katsidis wouldve been the popular choice
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Gealy.
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1st Green
2nd Katsidis
Special mention to the rise of Dominic Vea, Will Tomlinson and Oyewale Omotoso
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1.Daniel Geale
2.Robert Medley
3.Matt Pauley
4.Renee Ganoy
5.Steve Casserly
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you only listed Geale once.....are you o.k. :DD

christ mate....you are taking gym bias to extremes.
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toppity wrote:you only listed Geale once.....are you o.k. :DD

christ mate....you are taking gym bias to extremes.
:lol:
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2 great wins for Green & Katsidis.I went for Katsidis as Australian boxer of the year.

Next up Michael Katsidis v Amir Khan ?
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Khan holds the WBA light welterweight title. He may want to sort out his fellow countryman Ricky Hatton who is rated above him by "Boxrec" in spite of not holding a title and being KOed twice in his last four fights.

That would draw a big crowd in Manchester.

Katsidis still seems to be able to make lightweight and holds the interim WBO title at that weight. If JMM decides to retire (he is 36 and has not been doing that well lately) Michael will be WBO champ.
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Brute wrote: Katsidis still seems to be able to make lightweight and holds the interim WBO title at that weight. If JMM decides to retire (he is 36 and has not been doing that well lately) Michael will be WBO champ.
I think next stop for Katsidis will be JMM. Katsidis wants it and the WBO will push it.

Brute, I don't know how you can regard JMM as on the outer. Recently took the Pacman to a split-decision and then fought Mayweather at welter. The latter fight, at such disparate weights (which would of been much more than the 2kg difference at weigh-in once Money rehydrates) was nothing more than a blown up exhibition fight and shouldn't have affected Marquez's p4p rating. He is still #2 in my books.

Katsidis-Marquez will be a very enjoyable match if it does happen. However, I think JMM is a class above and should take it.
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Money Mayweather doesn't really cut much weight, he pretty much fights at his walking around weight. People are also always acting as if he was born a welter weight. He started at super feather and moved up, just like the other big names that are now fighting in and around welter. Mayweather isn't some giant picking on the small welter weights out there...
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keyboard warrior wrote:
Brute wrote: Katsidis still seems to be able to make lightweight and holds the interim WBO title at that weight. If JMM decides to retire (he is 36 and has not been doing that well lately) Michael will be WBO champ.
I think next stop for Katsidis will be JMM. Katsidis wants it and the WBO will push it.

Brute, I don't know how you can regard JMM as on the outer. Recently took the Pacman to a split-decision and then fought Mayweather at welter. The latter fight, at such disparate weights (which would of been much more than the 2kg difference at weigh-in once Money rehydrates) was nothing more than a blown up exhibition fight and shouldn't have affected Marquez's p4p rating. He is still #2 in my books.

Katsidis-Marquez will be a very enjoyable match if it does happen. However, I think JMM is a class above and should take it.
Marquez lost to Mayweather by a wide margin. He is 36, which is getting on for a lightweight. Nobody pays one fighter ten million and one 3.2 million for an exhibition.
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Marlin wrote:Mayweather isn't some giant picking on the small welter weights out there...
Agreed, Money was previously a relatively small welter himself. The point being that a blown up Marquez only just comes in over junior-welter, whereas money fought DLH at light-middle. I doubt on the night that Money fought JMM, given the supposed problems with making weight, he would of been much under middleweight after rehydration. (We can assume after the 2 year lay-off his walking around weight is bigger than previously). I mean we all saw them stand side-by-side at the weigh-in and in the ring. Definitely a few weight classes between them.
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Brute wrote: Marquez lost to Mayweather by a wide margin. He is 36, which is getting on for a lightweight.
Good points, but there's a big difference between a big margin against a bigger, defensive boxer and actually gettin hurt. I think the tell-tale point of the fight is Money not being able to hurt the lighter guy (albeit the 1 knock down where JMM showed no lasting effects).

I guess the next 12 months will be telling if Marquez meets Hatton or Katsidis, guys that will put the acid on.
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Going back to the topic at hand... both guys fought three times this year:

Green:
W KO2 Anthony van Niekerk
W KO5 Julio Cesar Dominguez (IBO baby)
W KO1 Roy Jones Jr (IBO baby)

Katsidis:
W UD Angel Hugo Ramirez
W KO8 Jesus Chavez
W SD Vicente Escobedo (Interim WBO)
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After a bit of deliberation I went with Green too. Don't really count the IBO but because he slayed the legend.

A lot of talk about what next for Green, but what does 2010 hold for Katsidis? Hopefully a shot at Marquez? I think I read somewhere that the WBO will be pushing it, can't remember where. :oops:

I think it's Katsidis' best shot. Try and out muscle the great Marquez. I don't think Katsidis can fight the way he does for many more years. I've got a feeling he will fade quickly for his age the way he fights.
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For what it's worth: Ring Magazine now has Green as their #8 Cruiser, Katsidis is #2 at light weight.
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keyboard warrior wrote:The year is drawing to an end so please cast your votes on who was the most successful boxer of 2009. I thought the obvious choices were Green and Katsidis, both with a few good wins and finishing with an IBO title and an interim WBO title respectively.

I'm a bit torn on this one. I rate WBO over IBO but with Green's win over Jones and the resulting publicity for Aus boxing makes this a tough one for me personally.

I'm guessing most will go with Green...?
Can't see why Green is in the mix? Yeah, sure he KOd a LEGEND, but an over the hill legend, who IMO came here for $$$$$ & not to fight.
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where is Anthony "The Pioneer" Mundine?

Shannan Taylor UD
Daniel Geale SD
and highly rated Alejandro Gustavo Falliga UD
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^^this is boxer of the year...not biggest pudendum
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Marlin wrote:Going back to the topic at hand... both guys fought three times this year:

Green:
W KO2 Anthony van Niekerk
W KO5 Julio Cesar Dominguez (IBO baby)
W KO1 Roy Jones Jr (IBO baby)

Katsidis:
W UD Angel Hugo Ramirez
W KO8 Jesus Chavez
W SD Vicente Escobedo (Interim WBO)
Green hands down..
Green 3 KO's all under 6 rounds, Katsidis 1-SD against Scoobidoo..
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tanibanana wrote:
Marlin wrote:Going back to the topic at hand... both guys fought three times this year:

Green:
W KO2 Anthony van Niekerk
W KO5 Julio Cesar Dominguez (IBO baby)
W KO1 Roy Jones Jr (IBO baby)

Katsidis:
W UD Angel Hugo Ramirez
W KO8 Jesus Chavez
W SD Vicente Escobedo (Interim WBO)
Green hands down..
Green 3 KO's all under 6 rounds, Katsidis 1-SD against Scoobidoo..
Katsidis hands down...

Green got 3 KOs but only one meant anything in world terms. Katsidis' results came against much stronger opposition, pound for pound, only Jones was by far a bigger name. I'd also rank Katsidis as more likely to win a genuine world title. Also, the SD against Escobedo should really have been a UD under sane judges.
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Hey Ollie! Does an IBO title count if Ricky Hatton holds it?
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vic darchinyan is still considered australian isnt he?
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