NAZ Interview after the khan fight

[Captain Hook]

I would qualify that slightly Deserter.
Naz simply began to believe the hype, 100%.
That involved family members in the main wishing to keep everything "in house" and ensuring nothing financially was given away lightly.
He totally under valued the involvement of his mentor, Brendan, and his close friends from the Gym.
The routine that goes into a Boxers prep is vital.
Sadly he only realised that when it was too late.
Brendan worked for gratis for Naz from the age of 8, and deserved every penny he got paid when he hit the big time.
That continuing percentage (had it done so) paled into insignificance value wise when the full impact of going it alone is considered.
Training alone, suddenly realising the crutch that was Brendan was missing, and his pals from the Gym, how can you put a price on that ?
Naz knew it, but put a face on it.
Retrospective review is a wonderful thing, but I often wonder what would have happened had he stayed at Wincobank.

Good insight mate, agreed...

[Deserter]

I would qualify that slightly Deserter.
Naz simply began to believe the hype, 100%.
That involved family members in the main wishing to keep everything "in house" and ensuring nothing financially was given away lightly.
He totally under valued the involvement of his mentor, Brendan, and his close friends from the Gym.
The routine that goes into a Boxers prep is vital.
Sadly he only realised that when it was too late.
Brendan worked for gratis for Naz from the age of 8, and deserved every penny he got paid when he hit the big time.
That continuing percentage (had it done so) paled into insignificance value wise when the full impact of going it alone is considered.
Training alone, suddenly realising the crutch that was Brendan was missing, and his pals from the Gym, how can you put a price on that ?
Naz knew it, but put a face on it.
Retrospective review is a wonderful thing, but I often wonder what would have happened had he stayed at Wincobank.

Good insight mate, agreed...

Yep, seconded. You were one of the posters I was refering to Twenty Six, when I said about people on Boxrec close to the camp, but I didn't want to name you in case you thought I was dragging you into my spat with Skelp

[twenty six]

I know this sounds weird but I don't think he did lose the dedication to the fight game, and the other worthy point is that the lifestyle was there before he left Brendan's.
When you're happy in your environment and with the people around you, you often take it for granted.
It's only when you look round in a time of need and its not there, that you realise its true value.
I stll think he's right up there, with the elite, regardless of his shortcomings.

[SticknMove]

I think you're right in your assessment 26.

I'm sure Naz cant be arsed about it now. What he achieved and the way he went about it marks him out. Have to say I never liked the little git but will never deny his talent and legacy.

[skelp]

So says a man who:

a) Clearly hasn't watched the Barrera fight documentary

b) Hasn't read the words of people who were either part of or close to Hamed's camp and saw at first-hand the way he changed.

There are a number of people on Boxrec alone who can tell you categorically that it's not pure fantasy.

I have to ask this.... how old are you? It's just that you're genuinely the first person I've encountered in seven years of posting who doesn't feel that Naz's decline was due to his loss of dedication and indulgent lifestyle.

I'll give you this much, the above may have been a contributing factor; but, I firmly believe him changing his style to a dedicated southpaw was a big mistake.

I did see the Barrera Doc, and what's to say the people close to his camp were not simply jealous of his achievements. He went on to greater things; while the rest of them under-achieved.

[MR T]

I would it if Naz came back....even at a lower level and there was just still a hint of that magic left. I remember when Herol Graham came back and beat Vinny Paz and Chris Johnson, I loved that.

I know its not gonna happen but I would love it (Kevin Keegan style) if he did....!

[Deserter]

what's to say the people close to his camp were not simply jealous of his achievements. He went on to greater things; while the rest of them under-achieved.

Genuine question for you - who are you thinking of when you say that?

[skelp]

Genuine question for you - who are you thinking of when you say that?

Well let's see: Ryan Rhodes has failed at World Level. Jonathan Thaxton never went beyond European. Those two were in the limelight the same time as Naz. And don't mention Johnny Nelson, he never won a genuine World Title, fought nobodies, and fighters who had been softened up by the other Cruiserweight Titelists of the time. Barring that Junior Witter is the only one who went on to greater honours.

[Deserter]

Genuine question for you - who are you thinking of when you say that?

Well let's see: Ryan Rhodes has failed at World Level. Jonathan Thaxton never went beyond European. Those two were in the limelight the same time as Naz. And don't mention Johnny Nelson, he never won a genuine World Title, fought nobodies, and fighters who had been softened up by the other Cruiserweight Titelists of the time. Barring that Junior Witter is the only one who went on to greater honours.

Interesting... so you suspect their jealousy is behind the claims of Naz losing his focus?

[twenty six]

Oh my God, I've heard it all now.
Skelp I'm sorry mate I really don't want to come across as rude and arrogant but that has to be the most misinformed post I have ever read in my time on this forum.
Of all of the names you refer to, can you name me one that was anywhere remotely near Naz for the Barrera fight ?
Care to hazard a guess at the time scale between the Barrera fight and his split with Wincobank ?
Are you seriously suggesting these lads are the reason for Naz's defeat and subsequent retirement ?
I give up.

[skelp]

Interesting... so you suspect their jealousy is behind the claims of Naz losing his focus?

You typed it not me.

[skelp]

Are you seriously suggesting these lads are the reason for Naz's defeat and subsequent retirement ?
I give up.

I give up too.

[twenty six]

As in surrender, or is it just that you have no idea how to respond to our questions ?

[Captain Hook]

Are you seriously suggesting these lads are the reason for Naz's defeat and subsequent retirement ?
I give up.

I give up too.

?????

[skelp]

As in surrender, or is it just that you have no idea how to respond to our questions ?

If your question made sense I would repsond to it. It's clear you are just here to argue, I'm not wasting anymore time on you or your boyfriends.

[Captain Hook]

Where do you get your information?

[FLINT ISLAND]

I would qualify that slightly Deserter.
Naz simply began to believe the hype, 100%.
That involved family members in the main wishing to keep everything "in house" and ensuring nothing financially was given away lightly.He totally under valued the involvement of his mentor, Brendan, and his close friends from the Gym.
The routine that goes into a Boxers prep is vital.
Sadly he only realised that when it was too late.
Brendan worked for gratis for Naz from the age of 8, and deserved every penny he got paid when he hit the big time.
That continuing percentage (had it done so) paled into insignificance value wise when the full impact of going it alone is considered.
Training alone, suddenly realising the crutch that was Brendan was missing, and his pals from the Gym, how can you put a price on that ?
Naz knew it, but put a face on it.
Retrospective review is a wonderful thing, but I often wonder what would have happened had he stayed at Wincobank.

Thats one of the key things that happened that led to his career fizzling out.............

When he was coming up he had Brendan and allegedly sure they took their finicial cut from Hamed but they were the boxing people who knew the business and took him too the top

But when the millions started rolling in - it became about greed then and the family took over cutting everyone out of the pie to keep it all in the family

Only problem is the likes of Riath and Nabeel Hamed didnt get him to the top of boxing and sure as hell didnt have a clue how to keep him there either

In the documnetary Nabeel makes fun of Barrera training up in the cold mountains and living in a shed - while Naz and all the boys were down in the warm in a luxury hotel having fun - and watching TV and shooting pool

Idiots

Riath was just purely about the fiances

[hitman_hatton1]

In the documnetary Nabeel makes fun of Barrera training up in the cold mountains and living in a shed - while Naz and all the boys were down in the warm in a luxury hotel having fun - and watching TV and shooting pool

Idiots

Riath was just purely about the fiances

barrera was slaving away in squalor to make him hungry.

while hamed was living in byng crosby's old mansion struggling past mexican cab drivers in sparring.

i'm still surprised they let the documentary see the light of day.

[n1ebf]

where can i see this doc??

[hitman_hatton1]

where can i see this doc??

here's part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ITe-EWH ... re=related

follow the links.

essential viewing if you've never seen it.

[whiskey]

Naz was an amazing entertainer who really stirred up the boxing buzz when he was in his pomp.

The car crash and sentence was a very low point - and leaving prison in a champagne limo did him no favours..

.. but we cant argue he had talent to burn and a good motormouth to sell that talent.