Worst looser

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 19 Jan 2005, 20:52

Did anyone watch fight of the week this week with the James butler Richard Grant fight. I was just curiouse as to how butler was not banned for suker punching his opponent after the fight had finnished. Made me think, what is the least sporting reaction you have ever seen by a loosing fighter.

Zhuge · Post by **Zhuge** » 20 Jan 2005, 00:48

josh fg wrote:Did anyone watch fight of the week this week with the James butler Richard Grant fight. I was just curiouse as to how butler was not banned for suker punching his opponent after the fight had finnished. Made me think, what is the least sporting reaction you have ever seen by a loosing fighter.

He was banned and arrested (and did time for it). Hopefully you're aware of the more recent travesty Butler committed...

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 20 Jan 2005, 05:54

spli_decision wrote:zab judah against kostya

It's got to be up there with the worst ever. It's one to have on tape definetly, the combinaton of break dancing followed by stool hurling is a great comedy moment. Almost as good as 'When good times go bad"

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 20 Jan 2005, 06:10

Think it was Bobby Frankham, one of the fighting gypsy family, who completely lost it and started punching the ref after having his fight stopped. He was banned for life. I believe the ref was Ritchie Davis.

J · Post by J » 20 Jan 2005, 06:17

darkie smith was a bit of an abberation too .
gladly he is back training i believe though sadly I believe Steve still isnt speaking to his dad.
shame really.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 20 Jan 2005, 06:19

He did fornicate it up for him completely. Good arguement against having your father iin your corner. Imagine if Roger Mayweather or Jack Mosley or Roy Jones Sr had done that!

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 20 Jan 2005, 06:49

MightyWarrior wrote:Think it was Bobby Frankham, one of the fighting gypsy family, who completely lost it and started punching the ref after having his fight stopped. He was banned for life. I believe the ref was Ritchie Davis.

Yes it was mate.

http://207.44.250.6/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=054513

I remember seeing it on the news, quite bizzare.

The next week I recall reading an interview with Harry Gibbs about the incident. I think Gibbs had just retired and said something like "If he had tried that with me, I would have chinned him".

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 20 Jan 2005, 07:22

Ivan camacho was probably the worst in a danish ring. From hsi record on this page: http://207.44.250.6/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=007736

"Camacho was DQ'ed for throwing a punch to Salvatores back. Salvatore fell to the floor and Camacho tried to kick him because he ment Salvatore was faking."

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 20 Jan 2005, 07:48

I remember seeing a Boxer go mad after losing a fight, he went totally out of control.

I have it on one of those 'Boxing Barmy' type tape compilations I shall have to dig it out because I can't recall his name, but I think it was a German Middlewight from the 1960's.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 20 Jan 2005, 08:53

KOJOE90 wrote:I remember seeing a Boxer go mad after losing a fight, he went totally out of control.

I have it on one of those 'Boxing Barmy' type tape compilations I shall have to dig it out because I can't recall his name, but I think it was a German Middlewight from the 1960's.

Peter Muller, I think his name was.
Tell you a really bad loser, Wayne McCullough. He got licked by Daniel Zaragoza years ago and won't accept it to this day. Just as he won't accept he's in for a hiding against Oscar Larios no doubt.
That's a frightening match.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 20 Jan 2005, 09:02

The fighter's mum who entered the ring and started shoeing the opponent.

And yes McCullough is in trouble with Larios.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 20 Jan 2005, 09:05

DavidPayne wrote:The fighter's mum who entered the ring and started shoeing the opponent.

And yes McCullough is in trouble with Larios.

tony sims was it????

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 20 Jan 2005, 09:10

I wonder whether Cheryll will sit impassively through another terrible beating. Wayne must be an incredibly stubborn man, because he's not had anything like the level of competition recently to take on a monster like Larios, McCulloch hasn't beaten a world class fighter since before Zaragozza. He's in for a frightening hiding.

celticwarrior · Post by **celticwarrior** » 20 Jan 2005, 09:52

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I wonder whether Cheryll will sit impassively through another terrible beating. Wayne must be an incredibly stubborn man, because he's not had anything like the level of competition recently to take on a monster like Larios, McCulloch hasn't beaten a world class fighter since before Zaragozza. He's in for a frightening hiding.

Can somebody please explain to me why Larios is such a monster? He's been a very solid champion but if he was as good as people seem to think he is he'd have moved up to featherweight long ago for a big money fight.

He's only 5' 7 (same as McCullough) and isn't a huge puncher. He hit Hussein with plenty and never looked like getting him out of there where as on the very few occasions Hussein hit him he Larios didn't look all that comfortable. In fact Hussein made him look good, he did absolutely noting much to the disgust of Jeff Fenech in his corner

Again I'm not saying he isn't a good solid champion but aside from his revenge win over Vazquez and a first round win over Jorrin whom he caught cold who has he beaten.

He's certainly not a monster in the Scott Harrison mode and doesn't possess anything like the punch Morales or Hamed had and they never budged McCullough.

celticwarrior · Post by **celticwarrior** » 20 Jan 2005, 09:57

bennie wrote:Tell you a really bad loser, Wayne McCullough. He got licked by Daniel Zaragoza years ago and won't accept it to this day. Just as he won't accept he's in for a hiding against Oscar Larios no doubt.
That's a frightening match.

If I remember correctly didn't the late Harry Mullan and a few others at ringside score the fight for McCullough? It was certainly a very close fight.

I think to call McCullough a bad loser based on that is a bit much to put it mildly. In fact if you watch his fight with Morales the first guy to raise Morales hand once the decision was announced, even before the ref was Wayne.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 20 Jan 2005, 10:12

Fact is, he's younger, more active, and on peak form, something McCulloch is not. McCulloch was never a puncher, and really he was at his best at Super Bantam, he takes far too many shots these days, and doesn't have the dig to get anyone out of there. Larios has a good workrate, and is going to keep hitting McCulloch all night. The fact he is not a monstrous puncher isn't going to help, neither was Scott Harrison, but he still doled out a ferocious beating.

The problem is that McCulloch has a world class chin, but not a lot else to offer these days. Unless he's going to turn the clock back 5 years, I can see nothing but a world of hurt.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 20 Jan 2005, 10:19

[quote="DavidPayne"]The fighter's mum who entered the ring and started shoeing the opponent.

[/quote]

That was Tony Wilson's mum.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 20 Jan 2005, 10:23

Zhuge wrote:
josh fg wrote:Did anyone watch fight of the week this week with the James butler Richard Grant fight. I was just curiouse as to how butler was not banned for suker punching his opponent after the fight had finnished. Made me think, what is the least sporting reaction you have ever seen by a loosing fighter.
He was banned and arrested (and did time for it). Hopefully you're aware of the more recent travesty Butler committed...

Don't think I am what did he do now?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 20 Jan 2005, 10:42

celticwarrior wrote:
bennie wrote:Tell you a really bad loser, Wayne McCullough. He got licked by Daniel Zaragoza years ago and won't accept it to this day. Just as he won't accept he's in for a hiding against Oscar Larios no doubt.
That's a frightening match.
If I remember correctly didn't the late Harry Mullan and a few others at ringside score the fight for McCullough? It was certainly a very close fight.

I think to call McCullough a bad loser based on that is a bit much to put it mildly. In fact if you watch his fight with Morales the first guy to raise Morales hand once the decision was announced, even before the ref was Wayne.

Yeah, there's more to it (as ever). Wayne hates Zaragoza because the Mexican nearly floored him for the only time in his career - really hurt him with body shots.
He also cracked Wayne's jaw.
For the first time, Wayne's durability didn't get him through a fight successfully (he lost his unbeaten record that night).

celticwarrior · Post by **celticwarrior** » 20 Jan 2005, 10:45

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Fact is, he's younger, more active, and on peak form, something McCulloch is not. McCulloch was never a puncher, and really he was at his best at Super Bantam, he takes far too many shots these days, and doesn't have the dig to get anyone out of there. Larios has a good workrate, and is going to keep hitting McCulloch all night. The fact he is not a monstrous puncher isn't going to help, neither was Scott Harrison, but he still doled out a ferocious beating.

The problem is that McCulloch has a world class chin, but not a lot else to offer these days. Unless he's going to turn the clock back 5 years, I can see nothing but a world of hurt.

Larios has a good workrate but McCullough's is as good if not better. Larios didn't look at all comfortable on the very few occasions Hussein managed to get him on the back foot. The fact that Hussein was doing so little made Larios look like the World's busiest fighter that night.

The difference between Harrison and Larios is weight. Harrison was a light welterweight by the time he got in to the ring with McCullough.

celticwarrior · Post by **celticwarrior** » 20 Jan 2005, 10:48

bennie wrote:
celticwarrior wrote:
bennie wrote:Tell you a really bad loser, Wayne McCullough. He got licked by Daniel Zaragoza years ago and won't accept it to this day. Just as he won't accept he's in for a hiding against Oscar Larios no doubt.
That's a frightening match.
If I remember correctly didn't the late Harry Mullan and a few others at ringside score the fight for McCullough? It was certainly a very close fight.

I think to call McCullough a bad loser based on that is a bit much to put it mildly. In fact if you watch his fight with Morales the first guy to raise Morales hand once the decision was announced, even before the ref was Wayne.
Yeah, there's more to it (as ever). Wayne hates Zaragoza because the Mexican nearly floored him for the only time in his career - really hurt him with body shots.
He also cracked Wayne's jaw.
For the first time, Wayne's durability didn't get him through a fight successfully (he lost his unbeaten record that night).

Not sure about that, McCullough admitted to being badly hurt by Rabanales earlier in his career. Wayne really only became noted for his durability after the Hamed and Morales battles. Many predicted Hamed would stop him in a round or two.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 20 Jan 2005, 12:05

josh fg wrote:
Zhuge wrote:
josh fg wrote:Did anyone watch fight of the week this week with the James butler Richard Grant fight. I was just curiouse as to how butler was not banned for suker punching his opponent after the fight had finnished. Made me think, what is the least sporting reaction you have ever seen by a loosing fighter.
He was banned and arrested (and did time for it). Hopefully you're aware of the more recent travesty Butler committed...
Don't think I am what did he do now?

http://207.44.250.6/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22737

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 20 Jan 2005, 12:08

KOJOE90 wrote:
josh fg wrote:
Zhuge wrote: He was banned and arrested (and did time for it). Hopefully you're aware of the more recent travesty Butler committed...
Don't think I am what did he do now?
http://207.44.250.6/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22737

22/10/04

LOS ANGELES – Professional boxer James Butler Jr. was charged today with murder and arson in connection with last week’s fatal beating of a freelance sportswriter at the victim’s Hollywood apartment, the District Attorney’s office announced.

Butler, 31, known professionally as “The Harlem Hammer,” was scheduled to be arraigned after 1:30 p.m. today in Los Angeles Superior Court. He has been in custody since his arrest on Wednesday.

Hammer is charged in case No. BA 273158 with one count each of murder and arson of the victim’s apartment, which police believe was set afire after 29-year-old Sam Kellerman was bludgeoned to death with a hammer. The complaint alleged the victim used a hammer to commit the killing. Bail was recommended at $1.25 million.

Kellerman, who authorities said was the brother of Fox sportscaster Max Kellerman, was slain at this apartment on North Vista Street in Hollywood on Oct. 12, according to the complaint. The arson count alleged the fire was set between the time Kellerman was killed and when his body was found in his apartment on Oct. 17, according to the complaint.

The victim had been bludgeoned around the head and the hammer believed to be the murder weapon was found not far from the body, authorities said.

Police said earlier this week that the victim’s 1993 Cadillac Seville was missing. Police also announced that Butler had stayed at Kellerman’s apartment.

Authorities said the car was discovered parked near UCLA on Wednesday. Further investigation led to Butler’s arrest by LAPD homicide detectives that day.

If convicted, Butler faces a maximum possible sentence of life in prison with the possibility of parole.

The case has not yet been assigned to a prosecutor. It was filed by Deputy District Attorney Patricia Wilkinson, assistant head of the Central Complaints Division.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 20 Jan 2005, 12:09

celticwarrior wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Fact is, he's younger, more active, and on peak form, something McCulloch is not. McCulloch was never a puncher, and really he was at his best at Super Bantam, he takes far too many shots these days, and doesn't have the dig to get anyone out of there. Larios has a good workrate, and is going to keep hitting McCulloch all night. The fact he is not a monstrous puncher isn't going to help, neither was Scott Harrison, but he still doled out a ferocious beating.

The problem is that McCulloch has a world class chin, but not a lot else to offer these days. Unless he's going to turn the clock back 5 years, I can see nothing but a world of hurt.
Larios has a good workrate but McCullough's is as good if not better. Larios didn't look at all comfortable on the very few occasions Hussein managed to get him on the back foot. The fact that Hussein was doing so little made Larios look like the World's busiest fighter that night.

The difference between Harrison and Larios is weight. Harrison was a light welterweight by the time he got in to the ring with McCullough.

Wayne USED TO have a high workrate, he's not looked anything like the high octane fighter of yesteryear for a long time now.

I'll be really very happy if McCulloch wins against Larios, but I find it very unlikely. Wayne just hasn't looked that special in a long time. He's put up some very brave losing performances.

Admittedly, I don't think he'll get hit as hard by Harrison, but Larios is a good deal quicker than Harrison, and Wayne wasn't able to really make a stand even with a speed advantage.

Worst looser

Worst looser

Re: Worst looser

Re: Worst looser

Re: Worst looser

Re: Worst looser