Expug wrote:Rick, Im not really sure why Louie hung em up.
He was a good puncher. He really went to the body well also.
We had some real good wars in the gym.
He used to go at it with Johnny Lira all the time also.
We all got along real well, but when the bell rang, it was on. Day in and day out.
Another guy who was always boxing with us was Johnny Heard who I talked about here quite a bit.
He worked my corner a couple times also and I really learned a lot from him. Great guy.
I dont know about you guys, but I remember all these guys and events like it was yesterday. Trouble is I cant remember what happened five minutes ago.
Brian . . . The same is true with me. I rarely forget a name or date. I can visualize the past in crystal clarity.
However, don't ask me where I left my car keys five minutes ago.
middleweight
residence Chicago, Illinois, United States
won 25 (KO 13) + lost 36 (KO 15) + drawn 2 = 64
rounds boxed 406 KO% 20.31
1985-02-16 Clint Jackson 23-6-0
VFW Hall, Dixon, Illinois, United States L TKO 4 10
1984-04-04 161 Forrest Pitts 161 1-1-0
Americana Congress Hotel, Chicago, Illinois, United States W MD 6 6
1984-03-29 Danny Blake 165 7-6-2
Hammond, Indiana, United States D PTS 10 10
1984-03-15 158 Hilario Capetillo 159 13-3-0
Convention Centre, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada L SD 8 8
~ 75-79 | 79-80 | 79-77 ~
1984-02-03 160 Miguel Sepulveda 161 4-4-0
Americana Congress Hotel, Chicago, Illinois, United States L MD 8 8
1983-11-19 Don Lee 18-1-1
Civic Center, Hammond, Indiana, United States L KO 4 10
1983-10-24 Lorenzo Brandon 1-2-0
Chicago, Illinois, United States W PTS 4 4
1983-08-15 164 Randy Smith 166½ 10-1-0
Americana Congress Hotel, Chicago, Illinois, United States L PTS 6 6
1983-07-09 157 Gary Jones 156 2-7-1
DiVinci Manor, Chicago, Illinois, United States W PTS 8 8
1983-05-13 158 Leslie Gardner 164 13-6-0
Cobo Hall, Detroit, Michigan, United States W SD 10 10
1983-04-16 Marijan Benes 29-5-1
Salzburg, Austria W KO 1 10
1983-03-05 161 Murray Sutherland 162 38-8-1
Bay City, Michigan, United States L KO 5
1983-02-24 Stephane Ferrara 18-1-1
Paris, Paris, France L PTS 10 10
1982-12-19 160 Danny Blake 155 1-2-1
Bismark Hotel, Chicago, Illinois, United States L SD 4 4
1982-11-25 Narcisco Maldonado 4-0-1
Isla Verde, Puerto Rico L PTS 10 10
1982-07-28 156 Bernard Mays 160 20-0-1
Premier Center, Sterling Heights, Michigan, United States L PTS 10 10
1982-06-03 169 David Cabrera 174 28-6-0
Mante, Tamaulipas, Mexico W KO 6
1982-03-22 158½ Muhammad Shabazz 157 13-4-0
Civic Center Coliseum, Hartford, Connecticut, United States W PTS 8 8
1982-01-28 Larry Martin 11-3-0
Saint Joseph, Missouri, United States L PTS 8 8
1982-01-06 158 Mark Frazie 158½ 14-0-0
Tampa, Florida, United States L PTS 10 10
1981-12-23 Robbie Sims 11-0-0
Providence, Rhode Island, United States L PTS 10 10
1981-11-19 Mark Holmes 15-0-0
Saint Joseph, Missouri, United States L PTS 10 10
1981-08-27 160 David Braxton 156¾ 15-1-0
Cobo Hall, Detroit, Michigan, United States L TKO 3 8
1981-07-25 Jacques Chinon 18-20-4
Fort-de-France, Martinique L KO 7
1981-01-29 158 Jose Baquedano 156 28-7-1
Mante, Tamaulipas, Mexico L PTS 10 10
1980-10-31 Nicola Cirelli 18-1-0
Rome, Lazio, Italy L KO 2 10
1980-08-16 Charlie Weir 20-2-0
Ellis Park Tennis Stadium, Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa L KO 1 10
1980-07-25 156½ Mark Hughes 157 1-1-0
Uptown Theatre, Chicago, Illinois, United States W KO 2 10
1980-03-27 161½ Eddie Smith 164 21-8-1
The Stadium, Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom L RTD 5 8x3
~ referee: Ron Hackett ~
1980-02-21 159 Robbie Davies 163 11-2-0
The Stadium, Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom W KO 7 10x3
~ time: 2:15 | referee: Harry Warner ~
1979-11-09 159½ Marcelo Quinones 158¼ 30-6-1
Coliseo Gran Chimu, Trujillo, Peru L UD 10 10
1979-09-07 158½ Fred Reed 159¾ 4-8-0
Circle Arena, Chicago, Illinois, United States D PTS 8 8
~ referee: Nate Morgan | judge: Collins Brown | judge: Albert Tremari | judge: Mike Glienna ~
1979-06-26 Leonardo Bermudez 13-17-5
Culiacan, Sinaloa, Mexico NC NC 3
1979-06-08 Marcelo Quinones 29-5-1
Tribuna Norte, Lima, Peru W TKO 9 10
1979-05-14 Tony Danza 8-3-0
Phoenix, Arizona, United States L KO 3 10
1979-04-10 160 Wilford Scypion 160 6-0-0
Civic Center, Beaumont, Texas, United States L KO 2 8
1979-03-03 Bobby Hoye 14-2-1
Detroit, Michigan, United States L KO 7
1978-11-29 161 Ralph Moncrief 162¼ 11-3-0
Richfield, Ohio, United States L PTS 8 8
1978-10-25 163 George Aidoo 160 16-11-1
Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, Illinois, United States W TKO 5 10
1978-09-17 Fulgencio Obelmejias 12-0-0
Caracas, Venezuela L KO 7
1978-07-12 Tony McMinn 25-4-0
Kansas City, Missouri, United States W KO 2
1978-06-28 Sugar Ray Seales 44-4-2
DC Armory, Washington, District of Columbia, United States L UD 10 10
1978-06-03 157½ Bobby Watts 154½ 30-4-1
Civic Center, Baltimore, Maryland, United States L PTS 10 10
1978-04-10 159 Al Clay 158 4-3-1
Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, Illinois, United States L UD 10 10
1978-03-30 Leo Saenz 26-3-2
Civic Center, Baltimore, Maryland, United States W PTS 10 10
1978-03-02 Robbie Davies 4-0-0
The Stadium, Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom W PTS 8 8x3
1978-01-14 Leroy Green Jr. 8-0-0
Memorial Hall, Kansas City, Missouri, United States L TKO 7
(Doctor stops bout)
1977-12-01 Melvin Dennis 23-9-3
Houston, Texas, United States L PTS 10 10
1977-09-28 James Parks 17-8-1
Canton, Ohio, United States L PTS 10 10
1977-09-07 157 George Jacobs 159 3-5-1
Municipal Auditorium, Kansas City, Missouri, United States W KO 2
1977-08-19 Gary Alexander 7-4-2
Pikeville, Tennessee, United States W KO 2
1977-08-08 162½ Richard Leeds 174
Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, Illinois, United States W KO 2 8
~ referee: Stanley Berg ~
1977-06-20 Mike Hallacy 5-3-0
Wichita, Kansas, United States W KO 7
1977-06-09 Sugar Ray Seales 33-4-1
Butte, Montana, United States L KO 2 10
~ time: 1:40 | referee: Joe Antonietti ~
1977-05-26 Billy Goodwin 13-16-2
Waukesha, Wisconsin, United States W KO 2 8
1977-03-06 162 Art Harris 160 24-0-0
Correctional Facility Prison, Marion, Ohio, United States L TKO 4
1977-01-17 Billy Goodwin 10-14-2
Eagles Club, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States W PTS 6 6
1976-11-30 Herman Graham 1-0-0
Indianapolis, Indiana, United States L PTS 4 4
1976-11-09 Mike West 0-2-0
Indianapolis, Indiana, United States W KO 3
1976-10-20 James Parks 15-5-1
Cleveland, Ohio, United States L PTS 10 10
1976-10-12 Larry Ward 1-0-1
Eagles Club, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States W PTS 6 6
1976-09-20 Eddie Davis 12-30-5
Orlando, Florida, United States W PTS 8 8
1976-08-31 158 Eddie Davis 156 12-29-5
Orlando, Florida, United States W PTS 8 8
1976-07-26 George Madison 3-0-0
Indianapolis, Indiana, United States W PTS 4 4
Pro debut for Heard
Thanks for posting those records Rick.
Johnny fought some real good fighters.
I'll never forget when he went to Europe to fight European champ and former Olympian Marjan Benes.
The promoter over there thought it was gonna be a record padder for their champ.
Johnny knocked him out in the first round.
Pug & Dan, we had an Aragon Ballroom in Southern Cal, as well. It was located on Lick Pier in Venice Beach.
During the 30's and 40's, it was a place where the Big Bands played, Harry James, Tommy Dorsey, etc.
For awhile in the 50's, the Lawrence Welk TV show was broadcast live from Aragon on Sunday nights (history from my grandfather).
It was next to the old Ocean Park amusement park, just a couple blocks from the old Ocean Park Arena (now a bowling alley across from the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium on Pico.)
In the late 60's, Pacific Ocean Park was closed, and lick pier as well. The old ballroom sat vacant and decaying until the early 70's, when it was demolished.
The Aragon Ballroom was before my time, but for some reason I can see it as it was. I can hear the music, see the building in my mind.
Maybe I was there in a past life. I know I'm a little crazy (maybe a lot crazy) but I feel I was there long before I could have been.
I feel this way in downtown L.A. I know the Olympic as it was long before I was born, The Hollywood LEgion, and more so, the film studios.
If past life experiences are real (?) I know I was here before.
Frank, did you ever experience Venice's Aragon Ballroom? Hap Navarro?
-Rick Farris
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Expug wrote:Thanks for posting those records Rick.
Johnny fought some real good fighters.
I'll never forget when he went to Europe to fight European champ and former Olympian Marjan Benes.
The promoter over there thought it was gonna be a record padder for their champ.
Johnny knocked him out in the first round.
I love those "upset" stories!
By the way, there is a photo of Heard with a group of boxers in the "biography" section of his Boxrec record.
Pug & Dan, we had an Aragon Ballroom in Southern Cal, as well. It was located on Lick Pier in Venice Beach.
During the 30's and 40's, it was a place where the Big Bands played, Harry James, Tommy Dorsey, etc.
For awhile in the 50's, the Lawrence Welk TV show was broadcast live from Aragon on Sunday nights (history from my grandfather).
It was next to the old Ocean Park amusement park, just a couple blocks from the old Ocean Park Arena (now a bowling alley across from the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium on Pico.)
In the late 60's, Pacific Ocean Park was closed, and lick pier as well. The old ballroom sat vacant and decaying until the early 70's, when it was demolished.
The Aragon Ballroom was before my time, but for some reason I can see it as it was. I can hear the music, see the building in my mind.
Maybe I was there in a past life. I know I'm a little crazy (maybe a lot crazy) but I feel I was there long before I could have been.
I feel this way in downtown L.A. I know the Olympic as it was long before I was born, The Hollywood LEgion, and more so, the film studios.
If past life experiences are real (?) I know I was here before.
Frank, did you ever experience Venice's Aragon Ballroom? Hap Navarro?
-Rick Farris
Never did get out to the "Aragon" Rick, too rich for me....
Hi I really enjoy the Classic American west Coast Boxing pictures and stories of west coast legends like little red and older brother Indian red Lopez also grew up watching Tony ''TheTiger'' Baltazar as I was 15 years old when i saw Tony nearly Decapitate Howard Davis with that big left hook only to be shortchanged by the judges also was at the Showboat hotel in my home town of Las Vegas when Tony fought Robin Blake Thanks for the memories
Thanks Frank. I remember that fight very well. I was in Humph's corner that night.
That night one of my guys - a fellow named Cliff Campbell - won his pro debut. Cliff was one of those guys who had buckets of talent, but not even a timble of desire. He ended up 2 and 2, and then dropped out of the game.
And I even remember that God-awful cover.
Where in the world did you find that?
I knew you would have some ties to this program Tom,.... I found it surfing the net....
I remember the Chandler fight. Chandler wasn't a very good fighter, but he came in real low a la Arturo Godoy v. Louis. After the second round, Humphrey came back to the corner complaining that he couldn't hit Chandler solidly because he was coming in so slow. "My punches keep bouncin' off his forehead . . ." I told him, "Well G*ddamn Humphrey - twenty f*cking ights and you never heard of an uppercut??" (My language was very salty back in the day). I said it pretty loud, and everybody sitting near our corner at ringside heard it and laughed. Next round Humphrey knocked him out . . . with an uppercut.
iskigoe wrote:WHOA, where am I. I have to stand on my head to get comfortable in here.
Happy New Year to all. I hope to be a larger contributer in the coming year. I have really enjoyed the friendships.
KI
"WHOA" thats what I said when I first seen the new look, like a blind man I was trying to feel my way around, greb some tit here, some ass there....LOL!
Kevin, Happy New Year to you and yours, be sure to come around more often in the new year....
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Hi I really enjoy the Classic American west Coast Boxing pictures and stories of west coast legends like little red and older brother Indian red Lopez also grew up watching Tony ''TheTiger'' Baltazar as I was 15 years old when i saw Tony nearly Decapitate Howard Davis with that big left hook only to be shortchanged by the judges also was at the Showboat hotel in my home town of Las Vegas when Tony fought Robin Blake Thanks for the memories
Welcome Hammer to the CAWCB thread, I'm Frank Baltazar, Tony's dad. We need more people like you here, so come in and enjoy reading the posts of the guys here and also do some posting yourself, post your memories for us to read.
Hi Kikibalt thank you for welcoming me on here i would like to share some of my stories of the fights i saw here in Las Vegas,as i saw many of the fights in the 1980s most notably Bobby Chacon's amazing fight with Boza Edwards at Ceasars palace in 1983 where a gutty Chacon won in one of the best fights ever. also Kikibalt do you remember Jimmy Montoya who was in many fighters corner when i used to go to the showboat for there monthly fight cards back in the 1980s I have not seen him in 20 years.
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Hi Kikibalt thank you for welcoming me on here i would like to share some of my stories of the fights i saw here in Las Vegas,as i saw many of the fights in the 1980s most notably Bobby Chacon's amazing fight with Boza Edwards at Ceasars palace in 1983 where a gutty Chacon won in one of the best fights ever. also Kikibalt do you remember Jimmy Montoya who was in many fighters corner when i used to go to the showboat for there monthly fight cards back in the 1980s I have not seen him in 20 years.
Hammer, indeed, we want to hear your stories on the fights that you have seen, you're right about Bobby Chacon been a gutty fighter, to gutty for his own good as we now know.... ...
Jimmy Montoya? Jimmy is a good friend of mine, Jimmy is now living where he was born, Silver City, New Mexico, Jimmy is still working with fighters, just recently he trained Mikkel Kessler for his fight against Andre Ward.
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Hi I really enjoy the Classic American west Coast Boxing pictures and stories of west coast legends like little red and older brother Indian red Lopez also grew up watching Tony ''TheTiger'' Baltazar as I was 15 years old when i saw Tony nearly Decapitate Howard Davis with that big left hook only to be shortchanged by the judges also was at the Showboat hotel in my home town of Las Vegas when Tony fought Robin Blake Thanks for the memories
Welcome Hammer to the CAWCB thread, I'm Frank Baltazar, Tony's dad. We need more people like you here, so come in and enjoy reading the posts of the guys here and also do some posting yourself, post your memories for us to read.
Promoter Bob Arum is preparing to open negotiations for Manny Pacquiao to move up to 154 to face WBA super welterweight champion Yuri Foreman. Ex-IBF 140lb champ Paulie Malignaggi is also in the mix. Arum told the LA Times, “…I don’t see [Pacquiao-Mayweather] happening now. Positions are hardening. I talked to [Pacquiao's advisor], and Manny’s fit to be tied. He’s very angry.”
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Daniel M. Petrocelli, the lawyer representing Manny Pacquiao in his lawsuit against the Mayweathers and Golden Boy execs, is best known for representing Fred Goldman in the famous wrongful death civil suit against O.J. Simpson. The Goldman family won a judgment of $8.5 million dollars.
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kikibalt wrote:"Jake Horn" I used to have a soft spot for that big dude
Frank . . . I think a lot of us did, including Armando Muniz. I'm sure Jake passed away years ago, but I never heard when it happened.
I remember he wasn't in the best of health when I traveled with him to two national tournaments in 1969.
Before any of us fought at the AAU Tournament, he'd have us rub his bald head for luck.
None of us won national titiles, so maybe it wasn't all that lucky.
Lucky were the kids he worked with in amateur boxing. A good man.
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Hi Kikibalt thank you for welcoming me on here i would like to share some of my stories of the fights i saw here in Las Vegas,as i saw many of the fights in the 1980s most notably Bobby Chacon's amazing fight with Boza Edwards at Ceasars palace in 1983 where a gutty Chacon won in one of the best fights ever. also Kikibalt do you remember Jimmy Montoya who was in many fighters corner when i used to go to the showboat for there monthly fight cards back in the 1980s I have not seen him in 20 years.
Hammer, indeed, we want to hear your stories on the fights that you have seen, you're right about Bobby Chacon been a gutty fighter, to gutty for his own good as we now know.... ...
Jimmy Montoya? Jimmy is a good friend of mine, Jimmy is now living where he was born, Silver City, New Mexico, Jimmy is still working with fighters, just recently he trained Mikkel Kessler for his fight against Andre Ward.
Now go to work on your stories....
Welcome to this thread Hammer. Looking forward ro reading some of your stories.
Frank, Jimmy Montoya is from Silver City? I didn't know that. I might be heading to New Mexico this coming year. I'll be stopping at Albuquerque, Las Cruces and Silver City to visit family. I would like to stop by his gym.
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