Classic American West Coast Boxing

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kikibalt wrote:Courtesy Rick Farris

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Rick Farris & Victor French
On the set of "Highway to Heaven" - 1988

Actor/Director Victor French was a good friend of mine. He was also a great friend to boxing.
I would join Michael Landon's production "Little House on the Praire" during it's last season.
Vic was Mike's co-star. When he discovered that I had been a pro fighter, he informed me that he was backing a new boxing club in the San Fernando Valley, "Ten Goose Boxing". It was thru French's financial support, that the Goossen family would be able to enter the world of pro boxing, and the rest is history.

The Goossen's got started promoting pro boxing in the Valley by showcasing boxers such as Alonzo Strongbow, and a comebacking bantamweight, Frankie Duarte (another world title challenger from Frank Baltazar's 1973 L.A. Golden Gloives team). However, what really gave them strength was the aquisition of a top amateur ready to turn professional, Michael Nunn. When Dan Goossen was struggling to scrape together the cash to buy Nunn's contract, it was Victor French to the rescue.

Victor was not just an actor, but a talented director who was the son of a stunt man who had worked on many of the old Republic Pictures westerns, many filmed right in the Valley. Vic grew up on film sets, and in the mid-60's got his big break as a guest start on two episodes of the long running "Gunsmoke" TV series. Vic and the shows star, James Arness hit it off and Victor would return to direct several episodes.

Michael Landon was a big believer in Victor French, and when he created "Highway To Heaven", he insisted that his old friend and "Little House" co-star, once again co-star on "Highway". NBC executives thought that Landon would be better served hiring a "younger" actor to play his partner. Landon told them straight out, "This is non negotiable, it's Vic or no series!" Landon had been TV's biggest male star, with 14 successful seasons on "Bonanza" and another 9 seasons on "Little House". Landon got his way, and Vic and the rest of us would rejoin Michael Landon on another series.

When I met Vic, "Little House" was on it's last of nine seasons. When the show went down, we stayed in touch. One day I get a call from Vic, "Hey, you want to join me at the fights tonight? Meet me at my house at 6pm, we'll get something to eat first."

This would be the first of many monthly fight cards I'd attend with Vic at Reseda's Country Club, a converted super market turned disco/fight arena. I don't remember the date, but I do remember the year and who was fighting. It was 1984 and the main event that evening featured a familar name from my past, Tony Baltazar. Tony "The Tiger" was matched with Roger Mayweather that night, and would win an easy unanimous decision over the guy who today trains Floyd Mayweather Jr. The thing that I remember most about that night was driving to the Country Club with Vic.

"Your going to like tonight's main event, have you ever see this Baltazar fight?"
I told Vic I first saw Tony fight when he was about four years old. He looked at me like I was crazy.
I then proceeded to tell him my knowledge of Tony, and the Baltazar family.

In due course I would sit with Vic at the club's celebrity table and watch fighters such as Nunn, Duarte, and the Ruelas brothers.

Fast forward to to late 1988. After five seasons, "Highway To Heaven" was dropping in the ratings and Michael Landon pulled the plug. A month later Vic invites me to another card at the Country Club, one that would be our last. "I'm on my way to Ireland to direct a couple films", he told me. He was having a lot of pain in his joints, would see a doctor when he returned.

A couple months later, I receive a call from Vic's daughter, Tracie. It wasn't good news.
The next day I would visit Vic at Tarzana Medical Center, where he was undergoing chemotherapy for cancer in his lungs, bones and brain. The Ireland films were just a story. Victor was dying.

This was in early May, 1989. I would visit Vic often until June 15th, the day he passed.
During the several years we had been friends we had shared a lot of experiences, all fun.

Old school film workers, be they actors or technicians, lived hard. We had a lot of fun, but those who don't know when to quit, rarely live long lives. Today things are different, but the guys who rode into the sunset with Mike Landon and Victor French were a special breed. I grew up in their world, luckily for me, it's all a memory.

No Funeral- A Party . . .

A month after Victor passed, a huge party was held in his honor at the Gene Autry Western Heritage Museum near Griffith Park. Vic had designated several pages of his will to this party which was charged to his estate. He had over 500 people present, legends from the film and boxing world. His kind of people. He had two bands, one the Les Brown band for the older people and a rock band for the younger. There were four bars, female hostesses to provide "company" for anybody who might desire it, and giftes for all. Vic insisted everybody get drunk and that not a tear be shed. It was an unbelieveable party. I attended with my wife at the time, Kathy. He had been a guest in our house many times to watch the HBO fights.
For those who had too much to drink, dozens of limo's were parked out front to escort them home. I didn't drink that night, aside from a quick shot of tequilla to toast our friend. I chose to enjoy the good company and memories of a great guy.

Rest in Peace, Vic. I'll never forget you!


-Rick Farris
You've had some good solid friendships in the business Rick. Thanks for sharing that. I've mentioned to you before that I'm a fan of both Victor French and Michael Landon. Both of these guys have always been involved with programs that always took the high road, ethically and morally. The kind of programs I could watch with my kids or mother knowing nothing would come up that would be embarrassing. Good solid stuff.

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kikibalt wrote:Image
Bobby Baltazar (R) vs Anthony Chavez

Las Vegas, Nevada
Nice photo Frank. I never did see Bobby fight. I'm sure you mentioned it before but why didn't he continue fighting?

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Expug wrote:Right on Rick.
Thousand pages right around the corner.
Man its been a great ride. Best part is, friendships have been formed.
And that is not something that anyone here myself included takes lightly.
You cant just find that anywhere. But, we found it here. Someday my kids will get married. I want you guys there.
My friend, I wouldn't miss it for the world!!

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Randyman wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Hap Navarro . . .

Just in case Hap is surfing the net and drops in, I wish to say hello, Don Gabriel.
Hope all is well with you and family. Thanks for everything.



-Rick Farris
Where is Hap? Hap we miss you. I hope you are doing well?

Randy :bow:
I heard from Hap . . .

Randy I e-mailed Hap yesterday and was happy to receieve his response this morning.
He is doing well, having a little problem with his eyes which prevent him from writing at the moment.
Said he and his family had a holiday reunion this past week.
Hap's son, Dan, and nephew David, are gifted musicians, two of the best in the world.
Awhile back Hap informed me that David recently joined "The Smashing Pumpkins" as their lead guitarist.
I've had the pleasure of communicating with Dan and his sister, Didi, recently. What a great family and do they love Papa! Of course, so do we.


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We talk a lot about our dogs here on this thread. New dogs and old dogs. My dog Lucky will be 13 next summer. I think this might be her last year. She doesn't move around too much anymore. She likes laying in her bed all day ans sleeping. She gets up to eat and then back to bed. We're preparing for it. She has been a good dog to us.

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Rick Farris wrote:
Randyman wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Hap Navarro . . .

Just in case Hap is surfing the net and drops in, I wish to say hello, Don Gabriel.
Hope all is well with you and family. Thanks for everything.



-Rick Farris
Where is Hap? Hap we miss you. I hope you are doing well?

Randy :bow:
I heard from Hap . . .

Randy I e-mailed Hap yesterday and was happy to receieve his response this morning.
He is doing well, having a little problem with his eyes which prevent him from writing at the moment.
Said he and his family had a holiday reunion this past week.
Hap's son, Dan, and nephew David, are gifted musicians, two of the best in the world.
Awhile back Hap informed me that David recently joined "The Smashing Pumpkins" as their lead guitarist.
I've had the pleasure of communicating with Dan and his sister, Didi, recently. What a great family and do they love Papa! Of course, so do we.


-Rick Farris
Thanks Rick. Good to know he's doing well (aside from his problems with his eyes).

All the best Hap and Happy New Years to you and your family!

Randy :bow:
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I was thinking about some of the fighters that either lived here in Las Vegas after retiring or lived here when they were actively fighting and one guy who I got to know long after he retired from the ring was Benito Juarez,he was working as a bartender when I knew him which was about 1986 he had fought against Ernie Indian red Lopez in las vegas in the late 1960s,also i got to know Ron Lyle who worked as a security guard here in the Ellis Island casino after he had retired from fighting,another heavyweight who lived and fought here was journeyman Leroy Caldwell who fought many of the top heavies of the 1970s and 80s and also worked as a sparring partner for many top fighters,when i was 16 to about 18 i hung around the golden gloves gym when the best fighters in the gym were Roger Mayweather when he was still unbeaten and Bruce Curry was about to win a world title also Doc Broadas who just passed away and was in George Foremans corner at one time was a manager of the gym also I saw a not yet famous Mike Tyson getting ready for the olympic trials working out there.
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Dave Navarro Interview . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qpe6mtrkpI
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Dan Navarro (Hap's son)
"Let Her Ride"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWukVHPN ... re=related
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Happy New Year to my pals here.
Great stories, great pictures, great friends, the thread just keeps getting better.

I dunno about the new set up though.
Just when I finally learn how to turn on a computer and type, things change. :D
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Rick Farris wrote:Chicago's Aragon Ballroom . . .

Pug & Dan, we had an Aragon Ballroom in Southern Cal, as well. It was located on Lick Pier in Venice Beach.
During the 30's and 40's, it was a place where the Big Bands played, Harry James, Tommy Dorsey, etc.
For awhile in the 50's, the Lawrence Welk TV show was broadcast live from Aragon on Sunday nights (history from my grandfather).
It was next to the old Ocean Park amusement park, just a couple blocks from the old Ocean Park Arena (now a bowling alley across from the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium on Pico.)

In the late 60's, Pacific Ocean Park was closed, and lick pier as well. The old ballroom sat vacant and decaying until the early 70's, when it was demolished.

The Aragon Ballroom was before my time, but for some reason I can see it as it was. I can hear the music, see the building in my mind.
Maybe I was there in a past life. I know I'm a little crazy (maybe a lot crazy) but I feel I was there long before I could have been.
I feel this way in downtown L.A. I know the Olympic as it was long before I was born, The Hollywood LEgion, and more so, the film studios.
If past life experiences are real (?) I know I was here before.

Frank, did you ever experience Venice's Aragon Ballroom? Hap Navarro?


-Rick Farris
The good old Aragon Ball Room. We used to call it the Aragon Brawlroom. The one here in Chicago.
Originaly it was a dance hall I guess. Then in the seventies it was used for boxing cards. Ernie Terrel put on a lot of shows there when he was a promoter.
It was located in Chicagos Uptown neighborhood.
Uptown was a funny and sometimes dangerous area.Hard to describe as it was sort of a melting pot. Had alot of halfway houses for drug rehabilatation.
Gangs,prostitution, etc.
The place didnt have seats if I recall.Chairs were set up for the fights. I seem to remember hearing that once in awhile, a chair would find its way airborne.
Its boarded up now.
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THEHAMMER321 wrote:I was thinking about some of the fighters that either lived here in Las Vegas after retiring or lived here when they were actively fighting and one guy who I got to know long after he retired from the ring was Benito Juarez,he was working as a bartender when I knew him which was about 1986 he had fought against Ernie Indian red Lopez in las vegas in the late 1960s,also i got to know Ron Lyle who worked as a security guard here in the Ellis Island casino after he had retired from fighting,another heavyweight who lived and fought here was journeyman Leroy Caldwell who fought many of the top heavies of the 1970s and 80s and also worked as a sparring partner for many top fighters,when i was 16 to about 18 i hung around the golden gloves gym when the best fighters in the gym were Roger Mayweather when he was still unbeaten and Bruce Curry was about to win a world title also Doc Broadas who just passed away and was in George Foremans corner at one time was a manager of the gym also I saw a not yet famous Mike Tyson getting ready for the olympic trials working out there.

Hammer . . . You saw Tyson training for the Olympic Trials. I first learned of Tyson watching him fight in the trials and I was impressed.
What did you think watching him workout?


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Expug wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Chicago's Aragon Ballroom . . .

Pug & Dan, we had an Aragon Ballroom in Southern Cal, as well. It was located on Lick Pier in Venice Beach.
During the 30's and 40's, it was a place where the Big Bands played, Harry James, Tommy Dorsey, etc.
For awhile in the 50's, the Lawrence Welk TV show was broadcast live from Aragon on Sunday nights (history from my grandfather).
It was next to the old Ocean Park amusement park, just a couple blocks from the old Ocean Park Arena (now a bowling alley across from the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium on Pico.)

In the late 60's, Pacific Ocean Park was closed, and lick pier as well. The old ballroom sat vacant and decaying until the early 70's, when it was demolished.

The Aragon Ballroom was before my time, but for some reason I can see it as it was. I can hear the music, see the building in my mind.
Maybe I was there in a past life. I know I'm a little crazy (maybe a lot crazy) but I feel I was there long before I could have been.
I feel this way in downtown L.A. I know the Olympic as it was long before I was born, The Hollywood LEgion, and more so, the film studios.
If past life experiences are real (?) I know I was here before.

Frank, did you ever experience Venice's Aragon Ballroom? Hap Navarro?


-Rick Farris
The good old Aragon Ball Room. We used to call it the Aragon Brawlroom. The one here in Chicago.
Originaly it was a dance hall I guess. Then in the seventies it was used for boxing cards. Ernie Terrel put on a lot of shows there when he was a promoter.
It was located in Chicagos Uptown neighborhood.
Uptown was a funny and sometimes dangerous area.Hard to describe as it was sort of a melting pot. Had alot of halfway houses for drug rehabilatation.
Gangs,prostitution, etc.
The place didnt have seats if I recall.Chairs were set up for the fights. I seem to remember hearing that once in awhile, a chair would find its way airborne.
Its boarded up now.

Brian, thanks for the info on the Chicago's Aragon.
What motivated the question was Johnny Heard's record, which listed the Aragon as one of the places he fought.
You gave me a great description of the place. I'll log it in my Chicago file, as I do with most of your posts. A lot of great history and information.
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I had heard of Mike Tyson in one of the boxing magazines I think it was boxing illustrated it covered amateur boxing but what i had read was most people did not think that he was gonna be tall enough to compete with the taller fighters when he got to the pro ranks,they said a guy with a good jab would be able to keep him on the outside,but when i saw him work out he was not in the ring he was shadow boxing and then i saw him hit the heavy bag and jump rope so i never saw him spar with anyone so i really did not think much about him at the time.
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THEHAMMER321 wrote:I had heard of Mike Tyson in one of the boxing magazines I think it was boxing illustrated it covered amateur boxing but what i had read was most people did not think that he was gonna be tall enough to compete with the taller fighters when he got to the pro ranks,they said a guy with a good jab would be able to keep him on the outside,but when i saw him work out he was not in the ring he was shadow boxing and then i saw him hit the heavy bag and jump rope so i never saw him spar with anyone so i really did not think much about him at the time.
Thanks, Hammer. I remember a lot of people were saying that about Tyson. Too short, a good jab will stop him.
When he was at his best, he proved them wrong.
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rick i read a little about you and seen pictures of you as a kid,did you ever go pro also who were the fighters who worked out at the gym where you worked out
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THEHAMMER321 wrote:rick i read a little about you and seen pictures of you as a kid,did you ever go pro also who were the fighters who worked out at the gym where you worked out


Hammer, I turned pro at 18. I trained at the Main Street Gym.
I boxed regularly with Danny Lopez, Bobby Chacon, Ruben Navarro, and a lot of great fighters like Ruben Olivares, and Roberto Duran.
I didn't make it far, but I have been in the ring with many that did.
You mention Ernie Lopez, I knew Ernie and Danny is still a friend I see at World Boxing Hall of Fame functions.
Jerry Quarry was a stablemate and he worked out at Main Street also.

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Man! you guys were busy on the thread while I was asleep.... :lol:
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Randyman wrote:We talk a lot about our dogs here on this thread. New dogs and old dogs. My dog Lucky will be 13 next summer. I think this might be her last year. She doesn't move around too much anymore. She likes laying in her bed all day ans sleeping. She gets up to eat and then back to bed. We're preparing for it. She has been a good dog to us.

Randy
Randy, we have a dog that is 16 years old, Sandie, aka Baby, she blind, can't hear too good, has a hard time getting around, sleep alot, but boy does she eat....I :bow: to her
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Expug wrote:Happy New Year to my pals here.
Great stories, great pictures, great friends, the thread just keeps getting better.

I dunno about the new set up though.
Just when I finally learn how to turn on a computer and type, things change. :D
Hey! we just went back to the old format.... :bag: :box: :TU: :bow: :OhYes:
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Hi Kikibalt thank you for welcoming me on here i would like to share some of my stories of the fights i saw here in Las Vegas,as i saw many of the fights in the 1980s most notably Bobby Chacon's amazing fight with Boza Edwards at Ceasars palace in 1983 where a gutty Chacon won in one of the best fights ever. also Kikibalt do you remember Jimmy Montoya who was in many fighters corner when i used to go to the showboat for there monthly fight cards back in the 1980s I have not seen him in 20 years.
Hammer, indeed, we want to hear your stories on the fights that you have seen, you're right about Bobby Chacon been a gutty fighter, to gutty for his own good as we now know.... :bag: ... :box:

Jimmy Montoya? Jimmy is a good friend of mine, Jimmy is now living where he was born, Silver City, New Mexico, Jimmy is still working with fighters, just recently he trained Mikkel Kessler for his fight against Andre Ward.

Now go to work on your stories.... :TU:
Welcome to this thread Hammer. Looking forward ro reading some of your stories.

Frank, Jimmy Montoya is from Silver City? I didn't know that. I might be heading to New Mexico this coming year. I'll be stopping at Albuquerque, Las Cruces and Silver City to visit family. I would like to stop by his gym.
Yes Randy, Jimmy is from Silver City, after many years living in L.A., he moved back to N.M, don't know that he has a gym though, knowing Jimmy he probably does.... :bag:
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Great pic. of Ernie "Red" Lopez. Thanks for posting it Bennie... :TU:
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