Boxing Documentary on tonight.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 31 Jan 2005, 13:49

I have just noticed on the Sky History Channel at 8 pm and again at 9pm there is a documentary on 18th centuary bare-knuckle Boxing called The Georgian Undergrounf.

I think it was on CH4 last year but I missed it.

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 31 Jan 2005, 14:41

Thanks, I would have missed that.

Should be interesting, recently reading up on John L. Sullivan and he preferred the Queensbury rules rather than the old prize fighting rules, he thought it was too much running and time wasting with the prize ring rules.

Buster · Post by **Buster** » 31 Jan 2005, 17:36

Yes but would they have stood up to the might of Kimbo!

Kimbo vs Byrd Vid

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 31 Jan 2005, 19:53

holy fuckaroly, who in the name of sweet mary is that?

is it just me or does he seem to have a knuckle missing on one of those hands?

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 01 Feb 2005, 02:45

What a fantastic documentary that was. Got to confess, don't know much at all about the sport back then although had heard of the legendary Tom Cribb.

Seems like it was more popular 200 years ago than now!

J · Post by J » 01 Feb 2005, 04:45

it was most interesting!!!! Rather ironic someone asked me about Tom cribb the other day and I hadnt got a clue.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 01 Feb 2005, 04:58

Didn't he use to present Crosswits?

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 01 Feb 2005, 08:26

I heartily recommend Black Ajax by the guy who wrote the Flashman books, novelised account of Molyneaux - Cribb fights, and The Great Prize Fight by I can't remember who, the story of the first USA vs England 'world' title bout between Sayers and Heenan. Bothe excellent reads.

Enjoyed the documentary, too.

bigped · Post by **bigped** » 01 Feb 2005, 08:36

jamesmcdonnell wrote:holy fuckaroly, who in the name of sweet mary is that?

is it just me or does he seem to have a knuckle missing on one of those hands?

Have a look at the vid james its under the pic ment to be a bare knucle fighter lost his last fight in a gym hall..

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 01 Feb 2005, 10:52

That fella is a monster, that video is brutal

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 01 Feb 2005, 11:50

Yes, I enjoyed the documentary to, very well made and presented I thought.

Although I seem to recall that some reports say it was Molyneauxs head that was injured and not his hand in the Cribb fight. I may be wrong there though.

bigped · Post by **bigped** » 01 Feb 2005, 12:41

Neri1983 wrote:That fella is a monster, that video is brutal

Thought that aswell but seen his nxt fight and he got done by a big white american bloke, done quite bad although there was sum dirty tactics and they went at it for ages,

will try and get a copy for you.

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 01 Feb 2005, 14:10

KOJOE90 wrote:Yes, I enjoyed the documentary to, very well made and presented I thought.

Although I seem to recall that some reports say it was Molyneauxs head that was injured and not his hand in the Cribb fight. I may be wrong there though.

Rob put this article on about it,
http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23287

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 01 Feb 2005, 17:25

bigped wrote:
Neri1983 wrote:That fella is a monster, that video is brutal
Thought that aswell but seen his nxt fight and he got done by a big white american bloke, done quite bad although there was sum dirty tactics and they went at it for ages,

will try and get a copy for you.

He got beat by Rich Gannon. But it was a hollow victory. Gannon looked like John Merrick after it he got beat so bad.

Buster · Post by **Buster** » 01 Feb 2005, 17:32

Lefthookhappy19 wrote:
bigped wrote:
Neri1983 wrote:That fella is a monster, that video is brutal
Thought that aswell but seen his nxt fight and he got done by a big white american bloke, done quite bad although there was sum dirty tactics and they went at it for ages,

will try and get a copy for you.
He got beat by Rich Gannon. But it was a hollow victory. Gannon looked like John Merrick after it he got beat so bad.

Gannon (the big white guy) cheated by using a standing choke (UFC, MMA move) and by kneeing him. If it was straight bare-knuckle boxing Gannon would have been even more disfiguired.

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 01 Feb 2005, 17:34

Gannon after the fight. Check the top of this page for the pic. http://www.ironlife.com/forum/showthrea ... ght=gannon

Buster · Post by **Buster** » 01 Feb 2005, 17:53

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 01 Feb 2005, 18:07

The video was quite brutal, those so called mates of Byrd's were right bastards, his eye was shut and he clearly wanted no more of it and yet they were demanding that he carried on because money was riding on it. Then when he gave up they all left him to talk to winner, what shits. Nobody went to see if he was okay, Byrd had to stagger to them.

Fun to watch but their accuracy made the current version of Tyson look like Sugar Ray Leonard.