1949 NBC Kinescope feature/Louis vrs Conn II

[Brutu]

Check out this real intersting feature from 1949 about the kinescope.
Also watch at 1:59 for Louis vrs Conn II(the first televised heavyweight championship fight) on kinescope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC-g-eB6Rjs

[granberry]

I didn't realize Louis and Conn fought in southpaw stances.

LOL

[BoxBuzz]

so the kinescope was being played "inside out"......must have had neutral tracking on the film base......

[Brutu]

The Joe Louis/Billy Conn rematch in 1946 for the HWY Title was television's first sports extravaganza.
It was sponsored by Gillette who as a publicity had a huge 525- line large screen television set put up in Princeton New Jersey
where the fight was seen live by 3,000 people there.
Over all the fight was seen by an estimated 150,000 people who viewed it on 5,000 television sets(estimated 32 people watched per tv in homes).
Not including viewings in bars.
About half of those television sets were probably in New York City.
A number of parties were also held in manufacture exhibits to watch the fight,
Telicon,Viewtone,U.S television,Farnsworth,Dumont.

[granberry]

Too bad it wasn't much of a fight.

Conn was completely shot physically after his WWII stint, and Louis was way downhill after the long break, although he couldn't tell it from this fight because of Conn's condition.

Louis definitely knew he was no longer the same Joe Louis when he then fought Mauriello and Walcott.

But the one who came back from the long WWII break in good shape was Tony Zale, because of his seriousness about keeping himself in top shape.

[Brutu]

Here is some trivia,
The first prizefight televised by NBC
was Max Baer vrs Lou Nova.
June.1.1939 from Yankee stadium.

[Brutu]

What made that interesting is I believe considering all of the documenteries I have seen on the life and career of Joe Louis over the years.
I think that may have been the first time I have seen footage of the actual 1946 live NBC television broadcast
of the second Louis/Conn fight.
Has anyone here seen the entire kinescope of that fight?
Does the original full length kinescope of it even still exist?

[Brutu]

Im still wondering.
I had read were kinescopes were/are really fragile and not meant for repeated viewings.

[Collins2000]

According to Wikipedia:

In the mid-90s, Edie Adams, wife of Ernie Kovacs, claimed that so little value was given to the kinescope recordings of the DuMont Television Network that after the network folded in 1956 its entire archive was dumped into upper New York bay.

But there is some good news!

A complete 7-hour set of telerecordings (kinescope) of Queen Elizabeth's 1953 coronation exists.

[Collins2000]

Im still wondering.
I had read were kinescopes were/are really fragile and not meant for repeated viewings.

According to Wikipedia:

In the UK, telerecordings (kinescopes) continued to be made even after the advent of commercial broadcast videotape systems in the mid-1950s as they possessed several distinct advantages, particularly for overseas program sales. Firstly, they were cheaper, easier to transport and more durable than video. Secondly, they could be used in any country regardless of the television broadcasting standard, which was not true of videotape. Thirdly, they could be used to make cheap black and white copies of color programs for sale to television stations who were not yet broadcasting in color.

[Brutu]

Kinescopes were still used by the television industry mainly for delayed broadcasts clear up into the mid 1970's,but no doubt they were of higher quality
then the ones used in the 1940's and 1950's.

[Brutu]

Here is some more television boxing history.
The first live coast to coast televised boxing match was on October-3-1951.
From Chicago Stadium,Dave Sand-Bobo Olson.
It was on the same day the first World series game was televised coast to coast
New York Giants-Brooklyn Dodgers when the won the National Pennant.

[Brutu]

Here is a trivia question for you.
During the 1950's,how many World Heavyweight Championship fights were televised LIVE on(free) American television.

[Brutu]

I hope someone had downloaded that rare bit of footage of the actual kinescope
of the live television broadcast by NBC-TV of Louis vs Conn II before it was removed from youtube?That was the only time I had ever seen a part of it.

[Brutu]

I sure hope someone recorded that documentary off of youtube before it was removed.
It was strange watching a television recording of a boxing match from 1946.
That kinescope clip seemed a lot more live and real of the official RKO film print of it.

[Brutu]

Here is a trivia question for you.
During the 1950's,how many World Heavyweight Championship fights were televised LIVE on(free) American television.

It has been so long,I think I may have forgotten the answer to my own trivia question.

[Brutu]

article-Television Recording-The Origin and Earliest Surviving Live TV Broadcast Recordings
by Robert Shagawat(2011)
reference to Louis-Conn Kinescope on page 15.

http://www.earlytelevision.org/pdf/Tele ... ns.pdf.pdf

[Brutu]

67 years ago Today.
This isn't the kinescope of course.
Here is (what looks to be)a later video-recording off of a television of the
official RKO-Pathe Fight film of
Joe Louis vrs Billy Conn II,
Yankee Stadium,Bronx,NYC.
June 19.1946


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrVkOf3CePo



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrwl0kvoCqg

[Brutu]

here is a link to a photograph of some Congressmen watching the NBC-TV broadcast of the
Louis-Conn II
fight on a television.This photograph had appeared in LIFE magazine July-1-1949.


http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news- ... o/50870334

[Brutu]

Here is another photograph of the audience actually watching the Louis vrs Conn II
fight (with the lights turned off)
on a television(in this one you can see Louis and Conn image on the TV screen).


http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news- ... o/50870335

[Caractacus]

Like they did with this fight here.
( can someone try and re-locate that documentery on youtube here )

[Caractacus]

a rare surviving kinescope that shows about 17 seconds of the LIVE NBC-TV transmission of the Louis vrs Conn rematch.
Wednesday June.19.1946.