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We complain about some of the matches in this country, but one from Latvia overnight puts them in the shade.

Valerijs Bozis, a 286 pound (!) heavyweight in his first fight, was thrown in against Edgar Kalnars, a 32 year old, 6'3" 220 pounder with a 20-22 record.

OK, Edgar has lost more than he has won, but a debutant against a fighter with 42 fights behind him? Would anybody be surprised if I told you the fat boy was knocked out in the first round?
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Brute wrote:We complain about some of the matches in this country, but one from Latvia overnight puts them in the shade.

Valerijs Bozis, a 286 pound (!) heavyweight in his first fight, was thrown in against Edgar Kalnars, a 32 year old, 6'3" 220 pounder with a 20-22 record.

OK, Edgar has lost more than he has won, but a debutant against a fighter with 42 fights behind him? Would anybody be surprised if I told you the fat boy was knocked out in the first round?
286 pounds....who are you calling fat :o
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toppity wrote:
Brute wrote:We complain about some of the matches in this country, but one from Latvia overnight puts them in the shade.

Valerijs Bozis, a 286 pound (!) heavyweight in his first fight, was thrown in against Edgar Kalnars, a 32 year old, 6'3" 220 pounder with a 20-22 record.

OK, Edgar has lost more than he has won, but a debutant against a fighter with 42 fights behind him? Would anybody be surprised if I told you the fat boy was knocked out in the first round?
286 pounds....who are you calling fat :o
:lol:
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In the second and last fight of his career Ignacio Pedromo had the pleasure of facing 77-0 Julio Cesar Chavez, who was already a four division world champion. Somehow he went eight rounds.
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Brute wrote:We complain about some of the matches in this country, but one from Latvia overnight puts them in the shade.

Valerijs Bozis, a 286 pound (!) heavyweight in his first fight, was thrown in against Edgar Kalnars, a 32 year old, 6'3" 220 pounder with a 20-22 record.

OK, Edgar has lost more than he has won, but a debutant against a fighter with 42 fights behind him? Would anybody be surprised if I told you the fat boy was knocked out in the first round?
Yep, Kalnar's not too bad for a journeyman. I know nothing about Bozis, but he may have turned pro off a good amateur record and his handlers were confident. Obviously the result proves them wrong if that was the case.
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harshfriller wrote:
toppity wrote:
Brute wrote:We complain about some of the matches in this country, but one from Latvia overnight puts them in the shade.

Valerijs Bozis, a 286 pound (!) heavyweight in his first fight, was thrown in against Edgar Kalnars, a 32 year old, 6'3" 220 pounder with a 20-22 record.

OK, Edgar has lost more than he has won, but a debutant against a fighter with 42 fights behind him? Would anybody be surprised if I told you the fat boy was knocked out in the first round?
286 pounds....who are you calling fat :o
:lol:
286, Only a little fella then :lol: :lol:
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ben k wrote:
harshfriller wrote:
toppity wrote: 286 pounds....who are you calling fat :o
:lol:
286, Only a little fella then :lol: :lol:

Height not given for Bozis. No mention of amateur record either.
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crusader wrote:In the second and last fight of his career Ignacio Pedromo had the pleasure of facing 77-0 Julio Cesar Chavez, who was already a four division world champion. Somehow he went eight rounds.
He did not come out for the 8th. Seems Mexican matchmakers are as good as Latvian matchmakers.
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Brute wrote:We complain about some of the matches in this country, but one from Latvia overnight puts them in the shade.

Valerijs Bozis, a 286 pound (!) heavyweight in his first fight, was thrown in against Edgar Kalnars, a 32 year old, 6'3" 220 pounder with a 20-22 record.

OK, Edgar has lost more than he has won, but a debutant against a fighter with 42 fights behind him? Would anybody be surprised if I told you the fat boy was knocked out in the first round?
20-22 was Cannonball Corby's record when your "fighter" made his pro debut in "Star Rank Boxing" AKA "Barry McGuigan Boxing". It was a boxing video game from the early 80's. Yippie Commodore 64!
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That is as maybe, but we are talking about flesh and blood fighters, who can be badly hurt if overmatched.
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David Reid vs Felix Trinadad was bad it finsished Reid he had fights after it but was never the same, Tito was far to expierenced after the 6th round it was a one sided demolinashing
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Reid was the defending WBA junior middleweight champion. Big difference to a man in his first fight.
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Speaking of mismatches how about Wale Omotso VS Ray Musson
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Ray Musson has had 10 pro fights compared to Omatoso's 15. Are you making a comment on New Zealand matchmaking?
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N2 Shape wrote:Speaking of mismatches how about Wale Omotso VS Ray Musson
Don't you look after Musson?
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Was involved with Musson early days, but Wale is a level above if not 2 levels above Ray right at this point! NOT a good fight for Ray to be taking IMO
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Maybe you should speak to whoever controls boxing in the area about it.
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Did one of the Marquez brothers fight an ex world title challenger in his 1st fight?
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alexpaterson wrote:Did one of the Marquez brothers fight an ex world title challenger in his 1st fight?
Rafael Marquez fought former WBC Bantamweight Champion Victor Rabanales, and got stopped in the eighth.

Juan Manuel fought rookie Javier Duran, (1-0 1KO at the time) and got disqualified in the first for a headbutt. Javier Duran finished up with a 4-14-2 record, but could always boast that he beat JMM in his second fight.
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Not much point in doing that!
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crusader wrote:In the second and last fight of his career Ignacio Pedromo had the pleasure of facing 77-0 Julio Cesar Chavez, who was already a four division world champion. Somehow he went eight rounds.
I've had this conversation before with a friend about some of Chavez's opponents. He is under the impression that fighter's records on boxrec in some of the third world countries, especially from a few years back are incomplete. My friend spent a bit of time in Indonesia and updated a lot of Indo' fighter's records here. So I'm just saying, some of the old records have to be taken with a bit of skepticism.

However, if it truly was his second fight and he went 8 rounds with Chavez, holy crap! What a legend. What a mismanaged talent, which in this sport isn't hard to believe.
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Brute wrote:
alexpaterson wrote:Did one of the Marquez brothers fight an ex world title challenger in his 1st fight?
Rafael Marquez fought former WBC Bantamweight Champion Victor Rabanales, and got stopped in the eighth.

Juan Manuel fought rookie Javier Duran, (1-0 1KO at the time) and got disqualified in the first for a headbutt. Javier Duran finished up with a 4-14-2 record, but could always boast that he beat JMM in his second fight.
How about John Carlo BEATING a former world heavyweight champion on his debut.

Also, your own Tosca Petridis beating a former three-weight world champion in his second pro fight.
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crusader wrote:In the second and last fight of his career Ignacio Pedromo had the pleasure of facing 77-0 Julio Cesar Chavez, who was already a four division world champion. Somehow he went eight rounds.
chavez fought his afr share of overmatched opponents, he was a good fighter no doubt put he had some serious padding on that record
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I remember at the time Chavez making no secret of the fact he wanted to be the first boxer to be 100 fights undefeated.

He made it to 88-0-1 according to boxrec records.
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