Has anybody heard about Mark Kaylor lately?

[ERIC GUY]

Mark called me just before xmas, He is well, him and Pat are living in the states, their son Ryan is over here trying to get a football trial, Boxing monthly done a piece on him a few months back..
Dont think he will come back over here, but if he does I will let you know.

[Coco]

People may try and mock Eric but he is someone who genuinely knows and is liked by the proper faces around the circuit.
Some people on these boards lie about who they know and what they have seen etc but Eric has been there and seen it all.

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

People may try and mock Eric but he is someone who genuinely knows and is liked by the proper faces around the circuit.
Some people on these boards lie about who they know and what they have seen etc but Eric has been there and seen it all.

Yeah, I've been told that Eric has a sense of dry sense of humour so made a little joke. Wasn't trying to besmirch his tape collection!

[bennie]

I remember Mark turning pro, bemoaning Kevin Hickey's infamous "three-inch gap" (between the gloves). It was typical Kaylor; he didn't say much but what he did say was always relevant.
Hickey later nearly got Pete Hanlon killed in the Commonwealth Games with that gap.

[DG.]

Mark called me just before xmas.

Did you film the call and can I buy a copy?

[DG.]

People may try and mock Eric but he is someone who genuinely knows and is liked by the proper faces around the circuit.
Some people on these boards lie about who they know and what they have seen etc but Eric has been there and seen it all.

Dont worry, its all in jest - Eric is exactly as you say...from what I have heard.

[boxref]

People may try and mock Eric but he is someone who genuinely knows and is liked by the proper faces around the circuit.
Some people on these boards lie about who they know and what they have seen etc but Eric has been there and seen it all.

Dont worry, its all in jest - Eric is exactly as you say...from what I have heard.

Eric is not someone to mess with. I was at the Kent v Surrey Schoolboy championships at Rumbles Boxing academy on saturday. Eric was there filming (as always) and if anyone got too close to the table that held his camera, he gave them a slight dig with a 4ft long broom handle

[ERIC GUY]

LOL, I should have used the brush part!!!

[reggaereggae]

I remember Mark turning pro, bemoaning Kevin Hickey's infamous "three-inch gap" (between the gloves). It was typical Kaylor; he didn't say much but what he did say was always relevant.
Hickey later nearly got Pete Hanlon killed in the Commonwealth Games with that gap.

What do you mean? What is the story.

[martinmrts]

he's featured prominently in the Fighters DVD that came out a few months ago, which is well worth getting...i was amazed to see he was back on the building sites so soon after fighting for the european title

[bennie]

I remember Mark turning pro, bemoaning Kevin Hickey's infamous "three-inch gap" (between the gloves). It was typical Kaylor; he didn't say much but what he did say was always relevant.
Hickey later nearly got Pete Hanlon killed in the Commonwealth Games with that gap.

What do you mean? What is the story.

The England training system. Hickey was the head coach (ala Terry Edwards but without the talent) and liked fighters to carry their guard with a three-inch gap. He also insisted they take five showers a day. In Hickey's defence, he could improve fighters who needed improving, such as John Lyon, Nick Wilshire, Joey Frost and Hanlon, but those with natural talent, like Colin McMillan, Tony Willis, Errol Christie and Kaylor (believe it or not, Kaylor was a beautiful boxer as an amateur) used to piss him off, much as Glenn Hoddle pissed off the England footballing set-up because he was too good. Hickey once made Christie stand in a corner wearing a dunce's hat.
Hanlon got flattened in the Commonwealth Games featherweight final in 1982 with a shot that landed straight between the three-inch gap. "Mind the gap" was the coin-phrase around the time.

[Counter-puncher]

The England training system. Hickey was the head coach (ala Terry Edwards but without the talent) and liked fighters to carry their guard with a three-inch gap. He also insisted they take five showers a day. In Hickey's defence, he could improve fighters who needed improving, such as John Lyon, Nick Wilshire, Joey Frost and Hanlon, but those with natural talent, like Colin McMillan, Tony Willis, Errol Christie and Kaylor (believe it or not, Kaylor was a beautiful boxer as an amateur) used to piss him off, much as Glenn Hoddle pissed off the England footballing set-up because he was too good. Hickey once made Christie stand in a corner wearing a dunce's hat.
Hanlon got flattened in the Commonwealth Games featherweight final in 1982 with a shot that landed straight between the three-inch gap. "Mind the gap" was the coin-phrase around the time.

nice one bennie. and yes, kaylor had under-rated skills. which he almost never chose to use given his propensity for a row.

[rhino222]

exactly, his problem was that he loved a tear up, but he was not nigel benn !!

[bennie]

exactly, his problem was that he loved a tear up, but he was not nigel benn !!

He certainly was. I doubt Benn have got past Bomber Graham either.

[Wales]

People may try and mock Eric but he is someone who genuinely knows and is liked by the proper faces around the circuit.
Some people on these boards lie about who they know and what they have seen etc but Eric has been there and seen it all.

Dont worry, its all in jest - Eric is exactly as you say...from what I have heard.

Eric is not someone to mess with. I was at the Kent v Surrey Schoolboy championships at Rumbles Boxing academy on saturday. Eric was there filming (as always) and if anyone got too close to the table that held his camera, he gave them a slight dig with a 4ft long broom handle

just spat a mouthful of tea over my computer reading that

[bennie]

Kaylor actually did a Benn-McClellan when he climbed up from FIVE knockdowns against Philly's huge-punching Buster Drayton, except that Drayton did not run out of steam.

[rhino222]

exactly, his problem was that he loved a tear up, but he was not nigel benn !!

What's your point?

my point is that kaylor had the tear up mentality but not the power to equalise... not in the same league as benn anyway, who did it at the highest level..

[rhino222]

not seen the film no, but was once sat next to jimmy tibbs at the elephant and castle leisure centre, at a bobby vanzie fight, and had the pleasure to speak to jimmy about his time with benn and kaylor et al.

[Coco]

Just looked at his record was was suprised to see he only ever won one title fight

[bennie]

Just looked at his record was was suprised to see he only ever won one title fight

Opportunities were slim, Marc, even for the Cartel boys. Jimmy Flint never won a major title at all.

[Counter-puncher]

Just looked at his record was was suprised to see he only ever won one title fight

Opportunities were slim, Marc, even for the Cartel boys. Jimmy Flint never won a major title at all.

bennie, I'd like to ask if I could, what was your opinion of Flint? from the littel i saw of him, he seemed to have the lot (at British level at least), some skills, a bit of a dig at the weight and a mean streak to boot.

did he underachieve do you think? i know he thinks that fighters inferior to him won titles would you agree?

thanks.

[bennie]

Just looked at his record was was suprised to see he only ever won one title fight

Opportunities were slim, Marc, even for the Cartel boys. Jimmy Flint never won a major title at all.

bennie, I'd like to ask if I could, what was your opinion of Flint? from the littel i saw of him, he seemed to have the lot (at British level at least), some skills, a bit of a dig at the weight and a mean streak to boot.

did he underachieve do you think? i know he thinks that fighters inferior to him won titles would you agree?

thanks.

Flint was a frightening puncher who was desperately unlucky to run into the gifted Pat Cowdell in the pros for the British title. As you will know, a domestic fighter had to win at least a British title, and usually a European, before he could even be considered for a world title shot back then. Cowdell stopped Flint in 11 and went on to fight twice for the world title; Flint was left with nowhere to go and retired after a shock loss to rugged Welshman Steve Sims who took his best early blows (Mickey Duff later labelled Sims the toughest man he had ever seen) and came back to win in four rounds.
Flint was the real thing.

[Counter-puncher]

ta, mate

[ERIC GUY]

Jimmy Flint still trains down at the Peacock gym lunchtimes

[Boxingmad]

Was Jimmy Flint with the Repton as an amateur?