Green v Hopkins at cruiserweight in Australia

[Marlin]

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I'm not so sure. Who says the money Green offered is more than he will reap from a Jones Jr fight? Do you really think beating Green would do more for his legacy than beating Jones Jr in a rematch?

[amwsnw]

I dont think beating RJJ after RJJ lost in 2 minutes in what was supposed to be a warm up bout does his legacy any good at all. What I do know is if for some reason he loses his legacy may be dented.

[Sweet P]

What's going on here!?! Don't make me side with the pome bloke!!!

I was thinking the same thing, I cant see Green stopping Bernard, Hopkins is an alltime great fighter. And is far from finished. Green may beat him but i would put money on the fight going 12 rounds.

[toppity]

^^ the problem i have is that i was saying the same things about RJJ v Green, and I looked like a goose there (as well as losing some hard earned).

[Brute]

Bernard is old. The last man he beat could not beat Sam Soliman at middleweight three years ago in his own backyard. Hopkins is 45 now. He will want a breather after the Jones fight. If he fights Green after that, how old will he be?

[Asterix]

im actually losing respect for u lot...u seem to know very little about boxing. go back to your wwe forums with that kind of nonsense talk.

hopkins is an alltime great, as if anyones gonna put him into orbit

I was only kidding around. If you see my first response, I'd expect Hopkins to win clearly on points. I love how a lot of the Aussies get behind their guy(s), though. It's good to see.

[caveman]

greeny will b to strong,if it happens

[Hounddawg]

I wanna know which 5 people voted for a green ko?

Hopkins has never been stopped and has fought far superior opponents than green. I'm assuming it's the silly Aussies who think a stoppage win over rjj means he can beat anyone? The green ko over jones wasn't even that bad. No where near as bad the tarver and Johnson ko's

I was the second/third guy to tick KO ;;-) You know Green beat Jones jnr in less than 1 round, not in 2 or 9 and according to people who know more about boxing than you and I, he has been shot since his return from the heavy division in 2004 DD

And I'm assuming that the whinging poms who have nothing ever good to say here about Aus boxing are the ones who picked Hopkins.

Who hits harder Adam, Green or Froch????? Serious question mate.

Hopkins never been stopped, first time for everything big fella, I'll take a hungry power punching fighter with cement in his chin over a 45 year old man, i'm well aware of Hopkins credentials, but when it's your time, it's your time.

[dberry]

A few years a go I saw Hopkins fight Echols, I've seen both fights, and if my memory serves me correctly, Echols sat hopkins on his arse a couple of times in one of the fights (please correct me if I'm wrong). I don't think Hopkins is infallable and Green seems to be hitting hard at this weight. This is all academic, however, as this fight probably wont happen, if it does I'd be interested at the odds for Green to win by K.O. That's where my money will be going, if it's good value.

[adamheight]

I wanna know which 5 people voted for a green ko?

Hopkins has never been stopped and has fought far superior opponents than green. I'm assuming it's the silly Aussies who think a stoppage win over rjj means he can beat anyone? The green ko over jones wasn't even that bad. No where near as bad the tarver and Johnson ko's

I was the second/third guy to tick KO ;;-) You know Green beat Jones jnr in less than 1 round, not in 2 or 9 and according to people who know more about boxing than you and I, he has been shot since his return from the heavy division in 2004 DD

And I'm assuming that the whinging poms who have nothing ever good to say here about Aus boxing are the ones who picked Hopkins.

Who hits harder Adam, Green or Froch????? Serious question mate.

Hopkins never been stopped, first time for everything big fella, I'll take a hungry power punching fighter with cement in his chin over a 45 year old man, i'm well aware of Hopkins credentials, but when it's your time, it's your time.

i have no idea how froch came into this but ill answer you anyway...froch

[dberry]

I used to train with Dale Westerman, he fought Froch and was a sparring partner to Green whilest Green was at super middle, and he has no doubt Green hits harder. Now that green is at cruiser and still looking lean, this question has to be retorical.

[Hounddawg]

I wanna know which 5 people voted for a green ko?

Hopkins has never been stopped and has fought far superior opponents than green. I'm assuming it's the silly Aussies who think a stoppage win over rjj means he can beat anyone? The green ko over jones wasn't even that bad. No where near as bad the tarver and Johnson ko's

I was the second/third guy to tick KO ;;-) You know Green beat Jones jnr in less than 1 round, not in 2 or 9 and according to people who know more about boxing than you and I, he has been shot since his return from the heavy division in 2004 DD

And I'm assuming that the whinging poms who have nothing ever good to say here about Aus boxing are the ones who picked Hopkins.

Who hits harder Adam, Green or Froch????? Serious question mate.

Hopkins never been stopped, first time for everything big fella, I'll take a hungry power punching fighter with cement in his chin over a 45 year old man, i'm well aware of Hopkins credentials, but when it's your time, it's your time.

i have no idea how froch came into this but ill answer you anyway...froch

Dude if i'm a goose for thinking a power punching Heavy could be a world beater, what does this make you?

[adamheight]

but its a dumb question that no one really knows the answer too, and everybody can only speculate on...
the only way we will find out is if they both go on one of those punching machines that measures PSI

[toppity]

but its a dumb question that no one really knows the answer too, and everybody can only speculate on...
the only way we will find out is if they both go on one of those punching machines that measures PSI

Ivan Drago style.

[Hounddawg]

I believe i read an article in fist magazine not long back that said some lt welter Am had just broke Danny Greens long standing record at the AIS for Punch PSI, Dannys record stood for 10 years before some kid registered 1150+(unsure exactly, but defiantly more than whats above) compared to Danny's 900+ PSI.

Don't know how accurate the Rocky 4 movie is but didn't they say in the movie that 900 PSI is an average Heavyweights punch?

[adamheight]

froch had a go on one at brighton pier and broke the machine

[toppity]

froch had a go on one at brighton pier and broke the machine

[Soundkamp]

Hopkins UD, you are comparing a legend who only 12 months ago schooled an undefeated middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik and lost an SD to Calzaghe...he would win a lop sided decision over Green. Sometimes its tough but you need to think with your brain not your heart.

[toppity]

Hopkins UD, you are comparing a legend who only 12 months ago schooled an undefeated middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik and lost an SD to Calzaghe...he would win a lop sided decision over Green. Sometimes its tough but you need to think with your brain not your heart.

Yes, that seems to make perfect sense, but so did RJJ beating Danny.............

[Marlin]

fair point toppo.

[dberry]

Hopkins UD, you are comparing a legend who only 12 months ago schooled an undefeated middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik and lost an SD to Calzaghe...he would win a lop sided decision over Green. Sometimes its tough but you need to think with your brain not your heart.

No one will ever really know unless they fight, every ones opinions are equally valid, but I believe Hopkins is an exceptional middle weight with the ability to punch above his weight. Your arguement is almost self defeating, a win at middle weight, a close loss to a super middle champ, and your trying to say he would slap Green at cruiser weight? At 46y.o.?

[Asterix]

Hopkins UD, you are comparing a legend who only 12 months ago schooled an undefeated middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik and lost an SD to Calzaghe...he would win a lop sided decision over Green. Sometimes its tough but you need to think with your brain not your heart.

Yes, that seems to make perfect sense, but so did RJJ beating Danny.............

I think Jones Jr has had a question mark hanging over him since getting knocked out by Tarver and Johnson. He looked good against Lacy so a lot of people thought he might still have enough to compete near the top of his weight class.

On the flip side, agreeing with you, Hopkins is an old man in boxing terms. You never know...but the odds are stacked in Hopkins favour, especially as he relies on ring smarts, which gives him longevity even while his body may be letting him down now.

[adamheight]

people seem to be putting too much emphasis on weight and age...the main thing here that will determine this fight is skill, and Hopkins far outweighs green in that department

(waiting for someone to reply that jones was also much more skilled than green but still lost)...

the difference is that Hopkins shows not much evidence of being on the downward slope (he almost beat calzaghe), where as Jones has showed us, even before the green fight, that he is definitely on the downward slope (and hence got battered against calzaghe)

[Marlin]

Green would beat Calzaghe.

[adamheight]

Green would beat Calzaghe.

lol thats a good one