Classic American West Coast Boxing

[dagosd2000]

Frank,Rick
Remember a middleweight by the name of Rudy Robles? He started off fast ,but then wound up losing a lot of fights at the end. Saw him at the Olympic beat Ronnie Wilson.

Like Ronnie and Moyer he looked for a payday at the Silver Slipper in Vegas at the end of his career. I was friends with a friend of his from down here. I thought he was going to be a contender at least,but I don't know why he hit the skids.Any info?

[Rick Farris]

Frank,Rick
Remember a middleweight by the name of Rudy Robles? He started off fast ,but then wound up losing a lot of fights at the end. Saw him at the Olympic beat Ronnie Wilson.

Like Ronnie and Moyer he looked for a payday at the Silver Slipper in Vegas at the end of his career. I was friends with a friend of his from down here. I thought he was going to be a contender at least,but I don't know why he hit the skids.Any info?

Roger . . . I didn't know Rudy Robles but he fought on the same card with Buchanan-Navarro, Mando Muniz and myself at the Sports Arena in 1971.
People had high hopes for Robles in L.A. He was a very good fighter but I think his management ran into problems getting him good fights.
Like so many others who couldn't gel in the City of Angels, he took to the road, fighting some of the best in the world in their hometowns.

Your question is one that I have asked myself more than once over the years, "What ever happened to Rudy Robles?"


-Rick Farris
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boxer: Rudy Robles

birth date 1951-01-01
division middleweight
nationality United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States
won 40 (KO 17) + lost 25 (KO 7) + drawn 1 = 66
rounds boxed 507 KO% 25.76



1984-12-08 Eddie Davis 28-4-1
Veteran's Memorial Coliseum, Phoenix, Arizona, United States L KO 3
1983-11-19 Albert Romero 14-0-0
Circle Star Theatre, San Carlos, California, United States L KO 7 10
1983-09-03 183 James Williams 171 22-24-2
Hudson Bay High School, Vancouver, Washington, United States L PTS 10 10
1982-05-24 Alex Blanchard 19-0-0
Rotterdam, Netherlands L TKO 5
1982-02-17 168 James Kinchen 165½ 17-0-1
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L UD 10 10
1981-10-13 Lindell Holmes 13-0-0
Phoenix, Arizona, United States L KO 8 10
1981-08-26 James Waire 15-8-1
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 10 10
1981-05-27 174 Pablo Paul Ramos 180 18-2-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 10 10
1981-02-18 Pete McIntyre 12-11-1
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 10 10
1981-01-21 Ruben Rascon 0-8-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 3
1980-11-25 164½ Mustafa Hamsho 164 29-1-2
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Tony Perez 0-10 | judge: Artie Aidala 0-10 | judge: Al Reid 0-10 ~

1980-10-01 173 Pablo Paul Ramos 176 17-0-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L SD 10 10
~ referee: Richard Greene | judge: Dutch Ullmer 96-94 | judge: Lou Tabat 91-98 | judge: Chuck Minker 93-96 ~

1980-09-10 Ronnie Brown 13-4-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 1 10
1980-05-24 James Waire 13-5-1
Santa Monica, California, United States L PTS 10 10
1980-05-02 Ronnie Brown 13-2-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 3
1979-11-30 161 Roger Leonard 156½ 10-0-0
Caesars Palace, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L SD 8 8
1979-10-17 165 James Waire 166 13-3-1
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 10 10
1979-07-22 Mike Colbert 28-3-1
Pontiac, Michigan, United States L PTS 10 10
1979-07-11 Josef Kossmann 4-10-3
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 4
1979-04-16 Mike Colbert 158½ 27-3-0
Sahara Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L TKO 11 12
~ USA Nevada State middleweight title ~

1979-02-06 Alan Minter 32-6-0
Conference Centre, Wembley, London, United Kingdom L PTS 10 10x3
1978-12-05 David Adkins 18-21-2
Reno, Nevada, United States W KO 4
1978-10-22 Mike Colbert 26-1-0
Reno, Nevada, United States W KO 5
1978-04-03 Fulgencio Obelmejias 7-0-0
Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico L KO 4
1977-11-09 Vicente Medina 24-42-3
Community Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States L MD 10 10
1977-10-04 165 George Cooper 165 36-3-2
Mitchell Field, Oroville, California, United States D PTS 12 12
~ 115-115 ~
~ USA California State middleweight title ~

1977-09-08 Ayub Kalule 10-0-0
K.B. Hallen, Copenhagen, Denmark L PTS 10 10
1977-08-25 160 Mike Avans 160 11-14-1
Tucson, Arizona, United States W KO 3
1977-07-28 Mario Luna 1-1-0
Tucson, Arizona, United States W KO 3
1977-07-12 Jimmy Owens 11-9-1
Phoenix, Arizona, United States W KO 6
1977-03-30 Edgar Wallace 8-0-0
Civic Plaza, Phoenix, Arizona, United States L TKO 6 10
1976-07-17 162 Karl Vinson 160¼ 12-4-3
Stockton, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ 93-98 | 93-100 | 93-98 ~

1976-04-13 Loucif Hamani 12-1-0
Paris, Paris, France L PTS 10 10
1975-08-16 159½ Rodrigo Valdez 159½ 55-4-2
Cartagena de Indias Bull Ring, Cartagena, Colombia L UD 15 15
~ WBC middleweight title ~

1975-04-29 164 George Davis 160 11-14-1
Stockton, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1975-02-28 155 Tony Mundine 160 47-4-1
Festival Hall, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia W PTS 10 10
~ referee: Des Crabbe 47-46 ~

1975-01-17 162 Rudy Cruz 161 14-3-1
Civic Auditorium, San Jose, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1974-12-07 Rudy Cruz 13-3-1
Civic Auditorium, San Jose, California, United States L PTS 10 10
1974-11-14 161 Kim Booker 160 16-3-0
Cow Palace, San Francisco, California, United States W SD 10 10
~ referee: Henry Elesperu 4-5 | judge: Elmer Costa 6-5 | judge: Jack Downey 7-5 ~

1974-11-08 161 David Love 157 23-9-0
Kezar Pavilion, San Francisco, California, United States W SD 10 10
1974-09-20 161 Felton Marshall 158½ 10-7-4
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States W KO 5 10
1974-07-23 163 George Davis 161 11-13-1
Coliseum, Oakland, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1974-04-22 159 Joe Gonzalez 157 6-2-0
Civic Auditorium, San Jose, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1974-04-08 158 George Cooper 158½ 24-2-2
Alameda County Coliseum, Oakland, California, United States L SD 12 12
~ referee: Rudy Ortega 6-4 | judge: Jack Campbell 4-8 | judge: Johnny Lotsey 4-7 ~
~ USA California State middleweight title ~

1974-03-04 161 Al Stankie 163 10-6-4
Coliseum, Oakland, California, United States W TKO 7 10
1973-10-03 162 David Adkins 161 17-13-2
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1973-08-30 164 George Davis 164 11-11-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 9 10
1973-07-11 Clarence Geigger 12-3-1
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 1
1972-03-23 163 Ron Wilson 163 55-13-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
1972-02-10 160½ Ron Wilson 162¾ 54-12-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: George Latka 8-4 | judge: Bob Dossey 8-2 | judge: Rudy Jordan 7-1 ~

1972-01-06 160½ Jorge Rosales 158 30-11-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 7 10
~ time: 1:02 | referee: Lee Grossman ~

1971-10-28 160 Willie Warren 159 32-12-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1971-09-02 158 Alfonso Aguirre 154 7-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 6 10
1971-08-05 159 Jesse Reid 162 5-0-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: George Latka 8-1 | judge: Bobby Ring 8-0 | judge: Larry Rozadilla 9-0 ~
According to the Los Angeles Times, Reid's record fell to 7-1-2.

1971-06-24 159½ Cipriano Hernandez 161 11-14-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Larry Rozadilla 7-3 | judge: Lee Grossman 6-4 | judge: Bob Dossey 7-2 ~

1971-05-27 157 Mario Marquez 153 5-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1971-03-11 160 Al Stankie 159½ 10-2-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
1971-02-12 161 Chuck Jefferson 158 0-1-0
Sports Arena, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 3 6
1971-01-28 161½ Tommy Kearse 163 6-12-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1971-01-14 158 Tommy Kearse 163 6-11-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1970-11-19 160 Steve Papp 158 4-5-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5
1970-10-15 159 Steve Papp 158½ 4-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5
1970-09-17 159 Tommy James 159 7-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1970-06-11 156 Roberto Villanueva 157
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1 4
1970-05-21 155½ Lee Flowers 159 1-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1970-04-16 156 Chon Arias 154
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5

[Rick Farris]

Frank . . .

We're L.A. guys, but Bobby and Tony have made their home in Arizona. I know that Tony finished his career boxing in Arizona.
I always take jabs at the San Diego Coliseum for being a "Graveyard" for L.A. boxers (as well as a birth place for some), well Phoenix used to have this legendary small arena right downtown. It was known as "Madison Square Garden", just like the big venue n N.Y. however, Phoenix's Garden was just an old brick aiditorium that today serves as a warehouse. Over the years lots of truly great fighters traded blows in the Phoenix's "Garden". After it was closed, the gym on Van Buren St. & 19th Ave. was renamed the "Madison Square Garden Gym". I trained boxers there a few years back.

Do you know of the old MAdison Square Garden Arena in Phoenix?


-Rick Farris

[THEHAMMER321]

Hi good morning everyone,anybody remember Eddie Pace and the circumstances behind his early death

[kikibalt]

Jack Dempsey & Charlie Chaplin



The photo was taken at the Charlie Chaplin Studios on La Brea Ave. in Hollywood.
For more than half a century, it has been home to A&M Records.
Dempsey lived in the neighborhood, a few miles away, in the Los Feliz area below Griffith Park.


-Rick Farris

[bennie]

Jack Dempsey & Charlie Chaplin



The photo was taken at the Charlie Chaplin Studios on La Brea Ave. in Hollywood.
For more than half a century, it has been home to A&M Records.
Dempsey lived in the neighborhood, a few miles away, in the Los Feliz area below Griffith Park.


-Rick Farris

Dempsey has the legs of a perfectly built man.

[Rick Farris]

Hi good morning everyone,anybody remember Eddie Pace and the circumstances behind his early death

Hammer . . . Yes, I remember it was around 1970. Eddie was at the Hoover Street Gym and boxed with welterweight Gil King.
After working a couple of rounds, Pace collapsed in the ring. I believe he died right on the spot, but I forget.
The following year I was a stablemate of Gil King briefly. I asked him about it and he was boxing with Pace.
King told me that he didn't hurt Pace with anything solid, he just collapsed between rounds.
That's all I know about it. Good question, however.

[Randyman]

Frank,Rick
Remember a middleweight by the name of Rudy Robles? He started off fast ,but then wound up losing a lot of fights at the end. Saw him at the Olympic beat Ronnie Wilson.

Like Ronnie and Moyer he looked for a payday at the Silver Slipper in Vegas at the end of his career. I was friends with a friend of his from down here. I thought he was going to be a contender at least,but I don't know why he hit the skids.Any info?

I remember Rudy Robles. In 1975 or 1976, Mel Epstein, Mike Nixon and I went to the old Latin American Press Club in Pico Rivera. They had a gym set up there with a ring. Rudy and his younger brother were there working out. Mike was there to spar with Rudy. Mike and Rudy sparred several rounds and Mike more than held his own against Rudy, as I recall. On a personal level Rudy seemed like a decent guy.

[Randyman]

I just got through watching "Fat City". A friend of mine at work gave it to me today. It still ranks as one of my favorites. A low key movie but it gets to me. Even back then you can really see Jeff Bridges was going to be a great actor but Stacey Keach was great as Tully. I know this is a favorite of most of you here. What makes it so good is the real fighters in the movie.





Randy

[bennie]

Jack Dempsey & Charlie Chaplin



The photo was taken at the Charlie Chaplin Studios on La Brea Ave. in Hollywood.
For more than half a century, it has been home to A&M Records.
Dempsey lived in the neighborhood, a few miles away, in the Los Feliz area below Griffith Park.


-Rick Farris

Dempsey has the legs of a perfectly built man.

Christ, that sounds dead gay!

[Randyman]

Jack Dempsey & Charlie Chaplin



The photo was taken at the Charlie Chaplin Studios on La Brea Ave. in Hollywood.
For more than half a century, it has been home to A&M Records.
Dempsey lived in the neighborhood, a few miles away, in the Los Feliz area below Griffith Park.


-Rick Farris

Dempsey has the legs of a perfectly built man.

Christ, that sounds dead gay!

The thought hadn't entered my mind but now that you mention it........... :??

Randy

[Expug]

Randy, "Fat City" is my favorite movie for sure.
Great performances all around.
I love the opening scenes and theme song also.
"Help Me Make It through the night" by Kris Krisstofferson" perfect tune for the flick.
I posted it early in the thread.

[dagosd2000]

Randy, "Fat City" is my favorite movie for sure.
Great performances all around.
I love the opening scenes and theme song also.
"Help Me Make It through the night" by Kris Krisstofferson" perfect tune for the flick.
I posted it early in the thread.

Shot on location in the San Jouquin Valley,it really captures the feel for that area. Pickers,truck drivers ,and fighters. Farm labor was,and still is ,the heart and soul there.

We Californians eat hearty everyday bacause of the sweat and labor of those underpaid workers who provide us with our meals. VIVA CESAR CHAVEZ

[dagosd2000]

Dempsey has the legs of a perfectly built man.

Christ, that sounds dead gay!

The thought hadn't entered my mind but now that you mention it........... :??

Randy

Chaplin was in pretty fair condition too

[kikibalt]

Fat City was shot in the town of Stockton, Ca., which is in the San Jouquin Valley

[dagosd2000]

Randy, "Fat City" is my favorite movie for sure.
Great performances all around.
I love the opening scenes and theme song also.
"Help Me Make It through the night" by Kris Krisstofferson" perfect tune for the flick.
I posted it early in the thread.

Brian
Manuel Ortiz was a field laborer and worked in an ice house in the Valley. Big attraction for those guys was to watch the fights at the local arena on weekends. One night one of the prelim fighters didn't show up. Ortiz's buddies pushed him up into the ring to "volunteer." HE WON! Became one of the greatest bantams of all time. After fighting the bottle finally KO'd him. Saw him once(didn't find out it was him until later)bouncing around the honky tonks in San Diego. Sad ending for a great fighter.

[dagosd2000]

Fat City was shot in the town of Stockton, Ca.

From what fighters have told me Stockton was a good little fight town.

[bennie]

Yaqui Lopez territory. He pissed on Mike Rossman a fight before the Jewish bomber won the world title.

[Expug]

Stockton, now that looks like a fight town to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtGx8WCPC5k

[dagosd2000]

Yaqui Lopez territory. He pissed on Mike Rossman a fight before the Jewish bomber won the world title.

Have a nice pic of Yaqui Lopez at the WBHOF. He was there with his family. A real nice guy.

[dagosd2000]

Stockton, now that looks like a fight town to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtGx8WCPC5k

Brian
Towns like Stockton ,CA. have a lot of history not only with farming,but roots that go way back with not only the Mexican community,but the Chinese,Japanese, and Philippino groups too.

[kikibalt]

Civic Auditorium, Stockton, California, United States

Colley Saloma W Artemio Jeronimo PTS 10 10

Tommy Greer W Don Serratore PTS 6 6

Frankie Baltazar L Reynaldo Zaragoza PTS 6 6

Billy Turner W Terry Allen KO 6 6

Frankie third fight was in Stockton, a fight in which he got robbed big time, Frankie fought a local Filipino boy, Reynaldo Zaragoza (6 rounds), a boy that the locals in "Fat City" had high hopes for, I believe I've aways been honest about my boys fights, as to who I thought won the fight when they fought, so when I say that Frankie got robbed big time, believe me its no bull-s##t, I had Frankie winning 5 out of 6 rounds with a knock down (eight count) in the 6th round, the fans were so piss that they held up the main event for about 20 minutes, throwing stuff in the ring. And we were the out-of towners...Go figure....

[HomicideHenry]

Me & Brian Paul @ his gym in Lima, Ohio. Brian was a US amateur champion of over 80 bouts and as a professional had 20 bouts. After a sparring session Brian complimented me as having a 'natural, heavy jab' that pushed him back.



(Left to Right) Me, "Rockstar" Walt Upshaw and Brian Paul.

[Randyman]

Civic Auditorium, Stockton, California, United States

Colley Saloma W Artemio Jeronimo PTS 10 10

Tommy Greer W Don Serratore PTS 6 6

Frankie Baltazar L Reynaldo Zaragoza PTS 6 6

Billy Turner W Terry Allen KO 6 6

Frankie third fight was in Stockton, a fight in which he got robbed big time, Frankie fought a local Filipino boy, Reynaldo Zaragoza (6 rounds), a boy that the locals in "Fat City" had high hopes for, I believe I've aways been honest about my boys fights, as to who I thought won the fight when they fought, so when I say that Frankie got robbed big time, believe me its no bull-s##t, I had Frankie winning 5 out of 6 rounds with a knock down (eight count) in the 6th round, the fans were so piss that they held up the main event for about 20 minutes, throwing stuff in the ring. And we were the out-of towners...Go figure....

Frank, if you say it than it's true. The reason the fans were so pissed was because almost all boxing fans hate a bullsh#t decision and they'll let you know. Out of towners or not.

Randy

[dagosd2000]

Civic Auditorium, Stockton, California, United States

Colley Saloma W Artemio Jeronimo PTS 10 10

Tommy Greer W Don Serratore PTS 6 6

Frankie Baltazar L Reynaldo Zaragoza PTS 6 6

Billy Turner W Terry Allen KO 6 6

Frankie third fight was in Stockton, a fight in which he got robbed big time, Frankie fought a local Filipino boy, Reynaldo Zaragoza (6 rounds), a boy that the locals in "Fat City" had high hopes for, I believe I've aways been honest about my boys fights, as to who I thought won the fight when they fought, so when I say that Frankie got robbed big time, believe me its no bull-s##t, I had Frankie winning 5 out of 6 rounds with a knock down (eight count) in the 6th round, the fans were so piss that they held up the main event for about 20 minutes, throwing stuff in the ring. And we were the out-of towners...Go figure....

Frank, if you say it than it's true. The reason the fans were so pissed was because almost all boxing fans hate a bullsh#t decision and they'll let you know. Out of towners or not.

Randy

Frank
If you had to do it over again would you have handled your sons differently on the managerial end?