Khan or Warren
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Rocky Balboa
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Re: Khan or Warren
If what allegedly says is true about the way Khan ended their business relationship, then that is disgusting. Allegedly may not be perfect, but two wrong's do not make a right & all that.
With Khan going with GBP, he will now have to take on the elite. Question marks remain over his durability, so I guess we will find out soon enough when he faces someone who can box & punch!
With Khan going with GBP, he will now have to take on the elite. Question marks remain over his durability, so I guess we will find out soon enough when he faces someone who can box & punch!
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DG.
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Khan did the same thing to Oliver Harrison, where was FWANK and his Tesco 'loyalty' card then?Rocky Balboa wrote:If what allegedly says is true about the way Khan ended their business relationship, then that is disgusting. Allegedly may not be perfect, but two wrong's do not make a right & all that.
With Khan going with GBP, he will now have to take on the elite. Question marks remain over his durability, so I guess we will find out soon enough when he faces someone who can box & punch!
Khan did wrong by AH - but he did nothing wrong by Fwank.
Maybe he did not want to see Fwank beg or get angry.
1-0 Khan.
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levi billups
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Agree with DG. Boxing ought to be just like any other contractual relationship. Contract had finished, Khan takes his business elsewhere. This is what happens in business. My last employer didn't start complaining when i handed in my notice (he was probably secretly pleased to see the back of me.....).
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MrBoxingUK2
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Re: Khan or Warren
not a fan of either man. but amir khan is a coward for not contacting frank about it. instead hearing about it from 10 diffrent people.
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alexpaterson
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I understand why Khan left but Warren did a very good job for him but Khan felt he needs better fights so he left its understandable.
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bigjack
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I'm sure it won't be long before Khan realises why fw matched him the way he did,i would love nothing better than to see Khan come running back to the uk with his tail between his legs,Khan was wrong not to tell him himself,but after what happened with calzaghe's 1.9 million i'm glad fw feels hard done by. 
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Is there a clause in the contracts between the fighters and Al Legedly which says that if the boxer loses (once, twice, whatever) that the promoter can call the deal off? Anyone know?
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TerribleTerry
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I have no knowledge of boxing promotional contracts per se but common sense tells me that such a clause would exist. When FW has these contracts drafted, he is usually doing it from a strong bargaining position - the fighter WANTS to sign with him. Combine this with the fact that 99 percent of good quality pros are ambitious and have belief in their own ability; I would imagine that such a clause would be a relatively easy sell, esp to a young fighters turning over.Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Is there a clause in the contracts between the fighters and Al Legedly which says that if the boxer loses (once, twice, whatever) that the promoter can call the deal off? Anyone know?
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All Amir has done is show a lack of loyalty, "if you want loyalty buy a dog"
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mickey1975
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Didnt The Cartel use contracts that were automatically renewed if a boxer won a title?
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I don't think he's shown lack of loyalty. His contract was up and he decided to go elsewhere. Yeah, FW got him a title shot soon after he got knocked out, but there are so many titles floating around it's not that big an achievement. In fact Khan himself probably had as much to do with it as FW. His name I mean. I don't see FW geting title shots so easily for some of his other fighters. Cleverly, Mitchell etc.
Also, where was the loyalty when FW was supposed to pay Calzaghe his cut for the Hopkins fight? Joe had to take FW to court for f**k sake. Calzaghe had been loyal to FW his whole career, even though a lot of people thought he should hhave left like other British fighters. He waits till the last fight of his career to do it, which he was entitled to do and FW won't pay him his money.
There is no loyalty in boxing and Khan has made the right choice 100%.
Also, where was the loyalty when FW was supposed to pay Calzaghe his cut for the Hopkins fight? Joe had to take FW to court for f**k sake. Calzaghe had been loyal to FW his whole career, even though a lot of people thought he should hhave left like other British fighters. He waits till the last fight of his career to do it, which he was entitled to do and FW won't pay him his money.
There is no loyalty in boxing and Khan has made the right choice 100%.
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Spot on!DG. wrote:OUT OF CONTRACT.
Get over it.
Warren aint worth a cup of cold water
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DG.
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Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Is there a clause in the contracts between the fighters and Al Legedly which says that if the boxer loses (once, twice, whatever) that the promoter can call the deal off? Anyone know?
I heard that many years ago - after 2 losses on the trot the Promoter has the option.
But its all allegedly!
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DG.
- Heavyweight

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I can imagine Fwank and co rejoicing if he wins the poll,so what if he does? Amir gone bout im business! It's over! Let it go,Fwank!
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Didn't calzaghe shaft frank first? He wouldn't return calls to finalise the pavlik fight, with Kelly all set to travel to Cardiff.Frank was talking joe up about working with him in promoting after retired.
Joe was quick to rip hatton for leaving 'the best promoter in the world' and had no sympathy. So got none for him either.
dogs/fleas.
With regards the khan thing, it makes me chuckle how it was 'me and frank are off to america' when frank stated he didn't think he should rush it for at least another year.
Maybe they would have worked with frank, but felt like they were no longer on the same page.
I feel is right in what he said, that khan is basically not ready yet.
Joe was quick to rip hatton for leaving 'the best promoter in the world' and had no sympathy. So got none for him either.
dogs/fleas.
With regards the khan thing, it makes me chuckle how it was 'me and frank are off to america' when frank stated he didn't think he should rush it for at least another year.
Maybe they would have worked with frank, but felt like they were no longer on the same page.
I feel is right in what he said, that khan is basically not ready yet.
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DG.
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HOW DARE YOU!MachoMan09 wrote:DG, you are not a yardie. Ever since you bought your Boxster years ago, you joined the middle classes. Cut the patois.DG. wrote:Amir gone bout im business!
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DG.
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MachoMan09 wrote:I imagine that in reality you are like a slightly straighter version of Derek Laud.
WTF!!!!!!
Its WAR!!!
But having said that, I wear William Hunt suits and shirts, Jeffrey West shoes and crombie coats
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But I also wear
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DG is rough AND Smooth!
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DG.
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Hello CottonWoolforbrains!Cotto10 wrote:yeah right, ferking peasant
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Who are you, if you excuse me asking?chopsticks wrote: Well, personally, I can see both sides point of view. I may be a promoter and manager now, but I have also been the boxer.
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freddie boswell
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It's audley harrisson.whicker wrote:Who are you, if you excuse me asking?chopsticks wrote: Well, personally, I can see both sides point of view. I may be a boxer and fantacist now, but I have also been the promoter.
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The piece is from Dave Coldwell (who isn't chopsticks...well, it could be...but you get my drift).whicker wrote:Who are you, if you excuse me asking?chopsticks wrote: Well, personally, I can see both sides point of view. I may be a promoter and manager now, but I have also been the boxer.
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cheers, I do see what you mean.Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:The piece is from Dave Coldwell (who isn't chopsticks...well, it could be...but you get my drift).whicker wrote:Who are you, if you excuse me asking?chopsticks wrote: Well, personally, I can see both sides point of view. I may be a promoter and manager now, but I have also been the boxer.
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black panther
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Re: Khan or Warren
My two cents: if a popular boxer makes a promoter a shed-load of money, but then is knocked out/beaten in emphatic fashion two or three times and the promoter "let him go" would he be criticised for lack of loyalty? Its a business at the end of the day. Amir/his team found what they perceived to be a better deal so they took it. Big deal. The fact that so many people have sided with the promoter and not the fighter on a boxing fans website is ,in my opinion, a representation of how much dislike there is for Amir Khan.
Whether Amir was right or wrong ,the fact that a majority of boxing fans side with a promoter rather than a fighter speaks volumes about his declining popularity in the UK. So does this justify his decision to leave?
I mean come on, when a fighter loses a popularity/morals poll to a promoter who has allegedly received a lot of flak from boxing fans and is generally very unpopular amongst boxing fans circles(allegedly) surely something must up right? Fighter in question must be hugely unpopular.
Whether Amir was right or wrong ,the fact that a majority of boxing fans side with a promoter rather than a fighter speaks volumes about his declining popularity in the UK. So does this justify his decision to leave?
I mean come on, when a fighter loses a popularity/morals poll to a promoter who has allegedly received a lot of flak from boxing fans and is generally very unpopular amongst boxing fans circles(allegedly) surely something must up right? Fighter in question must be hugely unpopular.