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Soy Como Soy
TJ Famas
The music was better. The cantinas were better. Where's my time machine?
Soy Como Soy
TJ Famas
The music was better. The cantinas were better. Where's my time machine?
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Se Fue
Los Moonlights
These guys played in TJ a lot. You'd see their posters on every lamp post in town. I remember,in Canon Jhonson, leaning against a car with all the guys drinking cahuamas listening to music like this.
Going to take Maria out for a bite. Afterward a stogie and some Patron sitting out on my balcony. I'll be playing this song.
Se Fue
Los Moonlights
These guys played in TJ a lot. You'd see their posters on every lamp post in town. I remember,in Canon Jhonson, leaning against a car with all the guys drinking cahuamas listening to music like this.
Going to take Maria out for a bite. Afterward a stogie and some Patron sitting out on my balcony. I'll be playing this song.
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Randyman wrote:We lost another uncle again. This time on my mother's side, Bobby Espinosa. Actually, he was my mother's uncle. I hadn't seen him in years. He was buried today at Rose Hills Cemetery.
Randy
Will play some oldies for your uncle tonight. R.I.P.
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Randy, sorry to hear that another one of your uncles has passed. Please accept my condolences.
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Es Tu Amor
TJ Soul
LAS COLONIAS AND LOS GRILLOS
Tijuana in the colonias is hills and canyons. Many of the roads were not paved so you drove your car very carefully and slowly. At night there were not a lot of lights. Only the lights from the little houses that scattered up the slopes of the canyons.
At night, with not much money, it was gathring out in the street. The aborrotes had those cahuamas of Corona so we'd hang around and talk out in the street leaning against the cars.It was like the cars were there for us.Someone would bring out a stereo and play oldies. Slow oldies. Romantic songs. You could hear the big dogs barking on the rooftops. Smell the sizzle of manteca,and then when everything was quiet ,only the music and the sounds of the grillos.
The crickets would start to chirp when it got very dark. The music would stop and you could only hear the grillos. The beer made you dreamy and the sound of the grillos was like they were talking to you. The oldie radio station actually would play the sounds of the grillos when the DJ would be talking.
Then when there was no more money to spend and the aborrotes closed their doors,we'd walk back up the slopes. The only sounds you could hear were of the grillos.You couldn't see them,but they must have been talking to me.
Es Tu Amor
TJ Soul
LAS COLONIAS AND LOS GRILLOS
Tijuana in the colonias is hills and canyons. Many of the roads were not paved so you drove your car very carefully and slowly. At night there were not a lot of lights. Only the lights from the little houses that scattered up the slopes of the canyons.
At night, with not much money, it was gathring out in the street. The aborrotes had those cahuamas of Corona so we'd hang around and talk out in the street leaning against the cars.It was like the cars were there for us.Someone would bring out a stereo and play oldies. Slow oldies. Romantic songs. You could hear the big dogs barking on the rooftops. Smell the sizzle of manteca,and then when everything was quiet ,only the music and the sounds of the grillos.
The crickets would start to chirp when it got very dark. The music would stop and you could only hear the grillos. The beer made you dreamy and the sound of the grillos was like they were talking to you. The oldie radio station actually would play the sounds of the grillos when the DJ would be talking.
Then when there was no more money to spend and the aborrotes closed their doors,we'd walk back up the slopes. The only sounds you could hear were of the grillos.You couldn't see them,but they must have been talking to me.
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THE ARRIVAL
Yesterday while I was sitting and talking with Cheto and Cucy at the front of the gym in Cheto's office,I saw a lady carrying shopping bags walk in.She stopped ,looked around, and then proceeded to the entrance of the gym.
"Con permiso",she said glancing at us.
I couldn't put it together right away,but she craned her neck to look inside the gym.
The lady didn't say anything and never walked inside the gym. She was still scanning with her eyes holding a shopping bag with each hand straight down against her sides. Cheto saw her looking.
"Beto!",Cheto shouted towards the inside on the gym.
Just then a boy,I'd say around ten years old who was snapping punches off on the heavy bag,turned and saw the lady.He was standing about ten feet from her.
"Tu mama,"said Cheto.
The boy stopped hitting the bag and put a towel around his neck.He then walked towards his mother. As he passed us,he excused himself and said goodby.His mother smiled nervously at us.
As Cheto and Cucy were talking,I watched the boy and his mother walking together leaving the plaza. His mother was still holding the shopping bags at her side.It didn't seem that they said anything to each other.
Yesterday while I was sitting and talking with Cheto and Cucy at the front of the gym in Cheto's office,I saw a lady carrying shopping bags walk in.She stopped ,looked around, and then proceeded to the entrance of the gym.
"Con permiso",she said glancing at us.
I couldn't put it together right away,but she craned her neck to look inside the gym.
The lady didn't say anything and never walked inside the gym. She was still scanning with her eyes holding a shopping bag with each hand straight down against her sides. Cheto saw her looking.
"Beto!",Cheto shouted towards the inside on the gym.
Just then a boy,I'd say around ten years old who was snapping punches off on the heavy bag,turned and saw the lady.He was standing about ten feet from her.
"Tu mama,"said Cheto.
The boy stopped hitting the bag and put a towel around his neck.He then walked towards his mother. As he passed us,he excused himself and said goodby.His mother smiled nervously at us.
As Cheto and Cucy were talking,I watched the boy and his mother walking together leaving the plaza. His mother was still holding the shopping bags at her side.It didn't seem that they said anything to each other.
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The sit-ins that changed America
The civil rights movement was energized by these '60s-era protests.
By Andrew B. Lewis
January 31, 2010
The "sixties" were born on Feb. 1, 1960, 50 years ago this week, when four African American college students staged the first sit-in at a segregated lunch counter in Greensboro, N.C. Since then, the mythology of the '60s has dominated the idea of youthful activism.
Of the three big events of the early civil rights movement -- the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision, the 1955-56 Montgomery bus boycott and the sit-ins -- the sit-ins have always been the least understood and, yet, the most important for today's young activists.
We forget how troubled the civil rights movement was in January 1960. It was six years after Brown, but fewer than 1 in 100 black students in the South attended an integrated school. And during the four years after the end of the bus boycott, Martin Luther King Jr. struggled to build on that victory. Many worried that the civil rights movement had ground to a halt. Then Greensboro changed everything.
In the time before Twitter, the rapid spread of the sit-ins was shocking. The first sit-in was an impulsive act, led by college students. They spread to Nashville, Atlanta, Miami, Durham, N.C., and Little Rock, Ark. -- more than 70 cities and towns in eight weeks. By summer, more than 50,000 people had taken part in one.
At the time, this was not just the largest black protest against segregation ever; it was the largest outburst of civil disobedience in American history. The sit-ins rewrote the rules of protest. They were remarkably egalitarian: Everyone participated; everyone was in equal danger. And they went viral because they were easy to copy. All one needed for a sit-in was some friends and a commitment to a few simple principles of nonviolent protest.
Most important, the sit-ins were designed to highlight the immorality of segregation by forcing Southern policemen to arrest polite, well-dressed college students sitting quietly just trying to order a shake or a burger. The students believed deeply in Thoreau's idea that the only place for a just person in an unjust society is jail.
The contrast with King's early efforts was stark. He had worked hard during the bus boycott to prevent arrests. To his thinking, only protests that remained within the bounds of the law could win the war against Jim Crow. The NAACP similarly believed in the power of the courts to end school segregation. But such efforts were so bureaucratic that ordinary African Americans often felt more like observers than participants.
To their African American contemporaries, the college students seemed the unlikeliest group to revive the civil rights movement. Just three years earlier, E. Franklin Frazier, the eminent black sociologist, had condemned them for believing that "money and conspicuous consumption are more important than knowledge." What did Frazier miss?
He failed to see how the comfort of postwar affluence and popular culture bred agitation and activism as easily as it did indifference and apathy. The sit-ins owed more to Little Richard and Levi's than to Jesus and the Bible.
Youth culture in the '50s often made it seem that generation mattered more than race. After all, weren't African American couples sharing the dance floor with white ones on the hit teen show "American Bandstand"? Yet, in their everyday lives, black teens still felt the sting of segregation. The first thing the Greensboro Four did before starting their sit-in at Woolworth's was to purchase some school supplies at the store. If their money was good enough for pencils, why weren't they good enough to have a seat at the counter?
To many Americans, the sit-ins were unnerving. In a 1961 Gallup Poll, 57% of those who responded said the protests hurt the civil rights movement. Black elders such as King and NAACP head Roy Wilkins tried to control the sit-ins by co-opting the students as junior partners.
The students instead formed their own organization, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. SNCC soon emerged as the most dynamic, creative and influential civil rights organization in the '60s. It produced a generation of black leaders, including John Lewis, Julian Bond, Bob Moses, Stokely Carmichael, Marion Barry and dozens of others.
SNCC took the movement to the most violent reaches of the Deep South. Its aggressive tactics -- the courting of arrests and the willingness to risk beatings -- forced the confrontation with racial segregation that compelled congressional intervention. The great milestones of the movement -- the freedom rides, Freedom Summer, Selma, Birmingham -- grew from the tactical innovation of the sit-ins. King may have stirred the nation's soul with the movement's poetry, but SNCC moved it to action with the prose of its grass-roots organizing.
Fifty years later, my students tend to see SNCC's members as mythic figures, a "greatest generation" of activists whose achievements they cannot equal. But I remind them of what they have in common with the SNCC generation. Both have been condemned by adults for their materialism, pop culture and assumed political apathy. Both grew up in a period of relative prosperity that left them comfortable but also unsatisfied. Both came of age when new forms of communication -- TV then, the Internet now -- unsettled politics.
There are many lessons from the sit-ins relevant to the lives of today's young people. Before it was a bumper sticker, SNCC lived out the true meaning of "think globally, act locally." But the most important lesson is to stop looking at the '60s as the manual for modern activism. What made the sit-ins so powerful is how they broke away from the prevailing wisdom to create a new model for change. Look forward, not back, I tell them. It's not your parents' movement anymore.
Andrew B. Lewis is the author of "The Shadows of Youth: The Remarkable Journey of the Civil Rights Generation."
The Los Angeles Times
The civil rights movement was energized by these '60s-era protests.
By Andrew B. Lewis
January 31, 2010
The "sixties" were born on Feb. 1, 1960, 50 years ago this week, when four African American college students staged the first sit-in at a segregated lunch counter in Greensboro, N.C. Since then, the mythology of the '60s has dominated the idea of youthful activism.
Of the three big events of the early civil rights movement -- the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision, the 1955-56 Montgomery bus boycott and the sit-ins -- the sit-ins have always been the least understood and, yet, the most important for today's young activists.
We forget how troubled the civil rights movement was in January 1960. It was six years after Brown, but fewer than 1 in 100 black students in the South attended an integrated school. And during the four years after the end of the bus boycott, Martin Luther King Jr. struggled to build on that victory. Many worried that the civil rights movement had ground to a halt. Then Greensboro changed everything.
In the time before Twitter, the rapid spread of the sit-ins was shocking. The first sit-in was an impulsive act, led by college students. They spread to Nashville, Atlanta, Miami, Durham, N.C., and Little Rock, Ark. -- more than 70 cities and towns in eight weeks. By summer, more than 50,000 people had taken part in one.
At the time, this was not just the largest black protest against segregation ever; it was the largest outburst of civil disobedience in American history. The sit-ins rewrote the rules of protest. They were remarkably egalitarian: Everyone participated; everyone was in equal danger. And they went viral because they were easy to copy. All one needed for a sit-in was some friends and a commitment to a few simple principles of nonviolent protest.
Most important, the sit-ins were designed to highlight the immorality of segregation by forcing Southern policemen to arrest polite, well-dressed college students sitting quietly just trying to order a shake or a burger. The students believed deeply in Thoreau's idea that the only place for a just person in an unjust society is jail.
The contrast with King's early efforts was stark. He had worked hard during the bus boycott to prevent arrests. To his thinking, only protests that remained within the bounds of the law could win the war against Jim Crow. The NAACP similarly believed in the power of the courts to end school segregation. But such efforts were so bureaucratic that ordinary African Americans often felt more like observers than participants.
To their African American contemporaries, the college students seemed the unlikeliest group to revive the civil rights movement. Just three years earlier, E. Franklin Frazier, the eminent black sociologist, had condemned them for believing that "money and conspicuous consumption are more important than knowledge." What did Frazier miss?
He failed to see how the comfort of postwar affluence and popular culture bred agitation and activism as easily as it did indifference and apathy. The sit-ins owed more to Little Richard and Levi's than to Jesus and the Bible.
Youth culture in the '50s often made it seem that generation mattered more than race. After all, weren't African American couples sharing the dance floor with white ones on the hit teen show "American Bandstand"? Yet, in their everyday lives, black teens still felt the sting of segregation. The first thing the Greensboro Four did before starting their sit-in at Woolworth's was to purchase some school supplies at the store. If their money was good enough for pencils, why weren't they good enough to have a seat at the counter?
To many Americans, the sit-ins were unnerving. In a 1961 Gallup Poll, 57% of those who responded said the protests hurt the civil rights movement. Black elders such as King and NAACP head Roy Wilkins tried to control the sit-ins by co-opting the students as junior partners.
The students instead formed their own organization, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. SNCC soon emerged as the most dynamic, creative and influential civil rights organization in the '60s. It produced a generation of black leaders, including John Lewis, Julian Bond, Bob Moses, Stokely Carmichael, Marion Barry and dozens of others.
SNCC took the movement to the most violent reaches of the Deep South. Its aggressive tactics -- the courting of arrests and the willingness to risk beatings -- forced the confrontation with racial segregation that compelled congressional intervention. The great milestones of the movement -- the freedom rides, Freedom Summer, Selma, Birmingham -- grew from the tactical innovation of the sit-ins. King may have stirred the nation's soul with the movement's poetry, but SNCC moved it to action with the prose of its grass-roots organizing.
Fifty years later, my students tend to see SNCC's members as mythic figures, a "greatest generation" of activists whose achievements they cannot equal. But I remind them of what they have in common with the SNCC generation. Both have been condemned by adults for their materialism, pop culture and assumed political apathy. Both grew up in a period of relative prosperity that left them comfortable but also unsatisfied. Both came of age when new forms of communication -- TV then, the Internet now -- unsettled politics.
There are many lessons from the sit-ins relevant to the lives of today's young people. Before it was a bumper sticker, SNCC lived out the true meaning of "think globally, act locally." But the most important lesson is to stop looking at the '60s as the manual for modern activism. What made the sit-ins so powerful is how they broke away from the prevailing wisdom to create a new model for change. Look forward, not back, I tell them. It's not your parents' movement anymore.
Andrew B. Lewis is the author of "The Shadows of Youth: The Remarkable Journey of the Civil Rights Generation."
The Los Angeles Times
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Who knew "six heads" was such an historian?
Great stuff! and of course I'm just kidding about Andrew Lewis.....However my guess is that Andrew may well have been named after....well....Andrew.
Great stuff! and of course I'm just kidding about Andrew Lewis.....However my guess is that Andrew may well have been named after....well....Andrew.
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DittoChuck1052 wrote:Randy, sorry to hear that another one of your uncles has passed. Please accept my condolences.
- Chuck Johnston
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Brian is one of those father-figure types, who acts as so much more than just a trainer. One of his fighters, Matthew Hall, was completely out of control as a kid until Brian took him on and taught him the rights and wrongs of life.scartissue wrote:I've been corresponding with him on e-mails, he seems like a good guy. I was asking who he's been training and he has quite a few prospects there.bennie wrote:Yes, I've met Brian many times and he is a diamond. I believe His son, Damian, posts on the British forum (as simply Damian).scartissue wrote: Stevie, just picked up Boxing News' '100 years of Boxing'. A really good read. Also, do yoy know the trainer Brian Hughes?
Scartissue
Scartissue
Brian received an MBE in 2000 for his great work.
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James Brown
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Try Me
James Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMqAfg8pRRg
Please,Please,Please
James Brown
Try Me
James Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMqAfg8pRRg
Please,Please,Please
James Brown
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My Dearest Darling
Etta James
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpsM3IkbrfE
There Is Something On Your Mind
Big Jay McNeely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvtcVmfXK-c
There Is Something On Your Mind
Bobby Marchan
My Dearest Darling
Etta James
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpsM3IkbrfE
There Is Something On Your Mind
Big Jay McNeely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvtcVmfXK-c
There Is Something On Your Mind
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Thank you, Frank. It's been a busy few days, Monica and I are moving this weekend.kikibalt wrote:Happy Birthday to our friend Rick Farris.....
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dagosd2000 wrote:kikibalt wrote:Happy Birthday to our friend Rick Farris.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW9ONaDhpzM
Mananitas
Pedro Infante ( For Rick Farris)
Gracias, Rog!
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Thanks to all my friends for the kind birthday wishes. 58 ain't as bad as I thought it would be. 
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kikibalt wrote:
Great flat top
I'll never forget a great 12 round war I saw at the L.A. Sports Arena in late 1965, Jose Medel vs. Jesus Pimentel!
Pimentel dropped Medel once, but Medel floored "Little Poisen" twice, and won the decision.
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kikibalt wrote:The sit-ins that changed America
The civil rights movement was energized by these '60s-era protests.
By Andrew B. Lewis
January 31, 2010
The "sixties" were born on Feb. 1, 1960, 50 years ago this week, when four African American college students staged the first sit-in at a segregated lunch counter in Greensboro, N.C. Since then, the mythology of the '60s has dominated the idea of youthful activism.
Of the three big events of the early civil rights movement -- the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision, the 1955-56 Montgomery bus boycott and the sit-ins -- the sit-ins have always been the least understood and, yet, the most important for today's young activists.
We forget how troubled the civil rights movement was in January 1960. It was six years after Brown, but fewer than 1 in 100 black students in the South attended an integrated school. And during the four years after the end of the bus boycott, Martin Luther King Jr. struggled to build on that victory. Many worried that the civil rights movement had ground to a halt. Then Greensboro changed everything.
In the time before Twitter, the rapid spread of the sit-ins was shocking. The first sit-in was an impulsive act, led by college students. They spread to Nashville, Atlanta, Miami, Durham, N.C., and Little Rock, Ark. -- more than 70 cities and towns in eight weeks. By summer, more than 50,000 people had taken part in one.
At the time, this was not just the largest black protest against segregation ever; it was the largest outburst of civil disobedience in American history. The sit-ins rewrote the rules of protest. They were remarkably egalitarian: Everyone participated; everyone was in equal danger. And they went viral because they were easy to copy. All one needed for a sit-in was some friends and a commitment to a few simple principles of nonviolent protest.
Most important, the sit-ins were designed to highlight the immorality of segregation by forcing Southern policemen to arrest polite, well-dressed college students sitting quietly just trying to order a shake or a burger. The students believed deeply in Thoreau's idea that the only place for a just person in an unjust society is jail.
The contrast with King's early efforts was stark. He had worked hard during the bus boycott to prevent arrests. To his thinking, only protests that remained within the bounds of the law could win the war against Jim Crow. The NAACP similarly believed in the power of the courts to end school segregation. But such efforts were so bureaucratic that ordinary African Americans often felt more like observers than participants.
To their African American contemporaries, the college students seemed the unlikeliest group to revive the civil rights movement. Just three years earlier, E. Franklin Frazier, the eminent black sociologist, had condemned them for believing that "money and conspicuous consumption are more important than knowledge." What did Frazier miss?
He failed to see how the comfort of postwar affluence and popular culture bred agitation and activism as easily as it did indifference and apathy. The sit-ins owed more to Little Richard and Levi's than to Jesus and the Bible.
Youth culture in the '50s often made it seem that generation mattered more than race. After all, weren't African American couples sharing the dance floor with white ones on the hit teen show "American Bandstand"? Yet, in their everyday lives, black teens still felt the sting of segregation. The first thing the Greensboro Four did before starting their sit-in at Woolworth's was to purchase some school supplies at the store. If their money was good enough for pencils, why weren't they good enough to have a seat at the counter?
To many Americans, the sit-ins were unnerving. In a 1961 Gallup Poll, 57% of those who responded said the protests hurt the civil rights movement. Black elders such as King and NAACP head Roy Wilkins tried to control the sit-ins by co-opting the students as junior partners.
The students instead formed their own organization, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. SNCC soon emerged as the most dynamic, creative and influential civil rights organization in the '60s. It produced a generation of black leaders, including John Lewis, Julian Bond, Bob Moses, Stokely Carmichael, Marion Barry and dozens of others.
SNCC took the movement to the most violent reaches of the Deep South. Its aggressive tactics -- the courting of arrests and the willingness to risk beatings -- forced the confrontation with racial segregation that compelled congressional intervention. The great milestones of the movement -- the freedom rides, Freedom Summer, Selma, Birmingham -- grew from the tactical innovation of the sit-ins. King may have stirred the nation's soul with the movement's poetry, but SNCC moved it to action with the prose of its grass-roots organizing.
Fifty years later, my students tend to see SNCC's members as mythic figures, a "greatest generation" of activists whose achievements they cannot equal. But I remind them of what they have in common with the SNCC generation. Both have been condemned by adults for their materialism, pop culture and assumed political apathy. Both grew up in a period of relative prosperity that left them comfortable but also unsatisfied. Both came of age when new forms of communication -- TV then, the Internet now -- unsettled politics.
There are many lessons from the sit-ins relevant to the lives of today's young people. Before it was a bumper sticker, SNCC lived out the true meaning of "think globally, act locally." But the most important lesson is to stop looking at the '60s as the manual for modern activism. What made the sit-ins so powerful is how they broke away from the prevailing wisdom to create a new model for change. Look forward, not back, I tell them. It's not your parents' movement anymore.
Andrew B. Lewis is the author of "The Shadows of Youth: The Remarkable Journey of the Civil Rights Generation."
The Los Angeles Times
KEEP YOUR CHIN UP
Been in this teaching career for 24 years. Didn't start teaching U.S. History until 10 years ago. The period I cover is the Revolutionary War through Civil War and Reconstruction. With 14 year old kids it can get a little dry. Maybe it's on me,but it ain't. I try to liven things up once in a while with off topic stuff. The Kennedy Assassinatin,Gangs,The War in the Middle East,and Civil Rights Movements to touch on a few other histories. The kids get into this more than Washington and Lincoln.
Last week was MLK's birthday. Always show a documentary on MLK. As time marches on the Black kids (sometimes they don't want to be called that)or African/American kids(sometimes they don't want to be called that either) have grown less interested in Martin Luther King.
In my 5th period class I have 4 Black African/American kids. They've sized things up with the others in the class. One day I heard them call each other "n----r". They throw that around pretty freely. The other kids won't say that to them,but I heard it and addressed it immediately. One of the kids got upset with me(I mean really upset) so I had security take him to the office. As he was cussing me out over his shoulder,I followed him out the room.
Notice I didn't spell out "n----r". Can't spell it out on the Forum. To me it's the worst word in speaking. But a lot of these kids(and I mean ALL kids are calling each other that). I guess those comedians like Rock and Murphy and Pryor think it's funny and apropos. It's popular,so say it.
MLK? Gee, he referreed to his people as "negroes". Now that's pretty wimpy.I don't use that word anymore either. When the kids (and I mean ALL kids)hear about non violence practiced by MLK...well now he's really a wimp.
The "N" users I have sitting in the front. I think I won their respect because I "went off "on them. The kid who "went off" on me looks at me ,but he's very carefull. To tell the truth,I don't hold any grudges.It's over with.Feelings smoothe out better that way.
But like I said,as time goes on MLK isn't getting the respect from the younger set. He wasn't tough enough. I showed his documentary last week and those kids sitting in front kept their chins down.
Martin Luther King knew, at the end,that he was going to die. He did his work in the deep south during the 60's. That would be like a Jew speaking out in Nazi Germany.
I wish more kids would understand how brave he was. The author of Frank's post shouldn't tell his students not to look back. If they saw Martin Luther King,they'd reach the top of that mountain.
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Happy Birthday Rick.
Remember, the older the violin,the sweeter the music.
Remember, the older the violin,the sweeter the music.
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I am so sorry about your uncle, Randy. We British are not very good when it comes to offering condolences.
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Amir Khan launches his American adventure against Mexico's highly respected and vastly more experienced Juan Manuel Marquez at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on May 15.
The once-beaten Khan – blasted in 54 seconds by a Colombian unknown recently - faces a man who once held Filipino great Manny Pacquiao to a 12-round draw and went the full 12 with unbeaten American great Floyd Mayweather Jnr in his last outing in September. His wins total a round 50. This ranks as some US debut for our boy. Nevertheless, the 23-year-old Khan is a brilliant boxer with blurring hand and footspeed and the ability to stick and move for 12 rounds. His one weakness is a weakness to PUNCHERS, which Breidis Prescott, that Colombian unknown, proved to be on Khan’s Manchester 'manor' in September 2008; Marquez, a brilliant boxer himself, is not renowned as a puncher and never will be at the ripe old age of 36. He might just be 'made' for a younger, energetic, ambitious, naturally bigger kid like Khan who will surely to be chomping at the bit in his first fight in the States, in his first fight for promoter Oscer De La Hoya, in his first superfight.
Anyone who can 'crack' stands a chance with Khan. Anyone without a punch, and without real size either, stands much less of one, even Juan Manuel Marquez.
The once-beaten Khan – blasted in 54 seconds by a Colombian unknown recently - faces a man who once held Filipino great Manny Pacquiao to a 12-round draw and went the full 12 with unbeaten American great Floyd Mayweather Jnr in his last outing in September. His wins total a round 50. This ranks as some US debut for our boy. Nevertheless, the 23-year-old Khan is a brilliant boxer with blurring hand and footspeed and the ability to stick and move for 12 rounds. His one weakness is a weakness to PUNCHERS, which Breidis Prescott, that Colombian unknown, proved to be on Khan’s Manchester 'manor' in September 2008; Marquez, a brilliant boxer himself, is not renowned as a puncher and never will be at the ripe old age of 36. He might just be 'made' for a younger, energetic, ambitious, naturally bigger kid like Khan who will surely to be chomping at the bit in his first fight in the States, in his first fight for promoter Oscer De La Hoya, in his first superfight.
Anyone who can 'crack' stands a chance with Khan. Anyone without a punch, and without real size either, stands much less of one, even Juan Manuel Marquez.
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
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For Randy:
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From Spokane newspaper . . .
Mel Epstein to promote boxing in Spokane
Offers Fullmer $100,000
SPOKANE (AP) - Promoter
Mel Epstein of the Spokane Sportsmen
Club said he offered a $100,000
guarantee to NBA middleweight
champion Gene Fullmer to
fight a top contender in Spokane.
Epstein said Sunday he wired
Fullmer's manager, Marv Jenson,
saying Fullmer could defend
against any -one of the lop four
contenders for a flat $100,000 guarantee
plus a "substantial share
of gate receipts" in a bout that
would probably be staged in the
Spokane baseball park in June.
For Randy:
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From Spokane newspaper . . .
Mel Epstein to promote boxing in Spokane
Offers Fullmer $100,000
SPOKANE (AP) - Promoter
Mel Epstein of the Spokane Sportsmen
Club said he offered a $100,000
guarantee to NBA middleweight
champion Gene Fullmer to
fight a top contender in Spokane.
Epstein said Sunday he wired
Fullmer's manager, Marv Jenson,
saying Fullmer could defend
against any -one of the lop four
contenders for a flat $100,000 guarantee
plus a "substantial share
of gate receipts" in a bout that
would probably be staged in the
Spokane baseball park in June.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Danny "Li'l Red" Lopez
Circa 1976
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Danny "Li'l Red" Lopez vs Sean O'Grady
