Paul Briggs returning to the ring - possibly to fight Danny

[oliverfennell]

http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/201 ... sport.html

I think a tune up fight against someone durable first then get it on!!

Might be hard. KOing some mugger is far different to fighting a World Champion.

Danny Green isn't a world champion.

[toppity]

http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/201 ... sport.html

I think a tune up fight against someone durable first then get it on!!

Might be hard. KOing some mugger is far different to fighting a World Champion.

Danny Green isn't a world champion.

IBO Baby.......

[bigred83]

sorry oliver but wat do u consider a world champ?

and i agree with all the comments bout how tough paul is, he was great, one of the best we had here in aus, i still dont see the point. i would much rather see danny go and foght someone over seas of real significance.
i see huch has a tba in march. i know danny most likely wont go back to germ, and i dont blame him, but surely there is someone there he can fight, how bout ofalabi or wateva his name is, battle of the commonwealth, not the title, just us against the poms, surely better than an old reitred local guy that may or may not be worth it?????? as much as i like briggs

[oliverfennell]

sorry oliver but wat do u consider a world champ?

"Big four" belts, sans interim designations. I know technically the IBO is a "world championship", but only in its own words, not in general perception.

[bigred83]

thats fair nuff, but at least he defended against a class fighter. unlike a certain other aussie fighter that vacated to move weights instead of defend title

[toppity]

thats fair nuff, but at least he defended against a class fighter. unlike a certain other aussie fighter that vacated to move weights instead of defend title

4 posts in and I already like bigred

[oliverfennell]

thats fair nuff, but at least he defended against a class fighter. unlike a certain other aussie fighter that vacated to move weights instead of defend title

Agreed. He's definitely a world class fighter and him wiping out a top 5 world-ranked boxer - and that's what Jones was, regardless of his age - in such fashion proves this. I've stood up for Green and the validity of his win over on the Current Scene, where all the "toldyousos" are doing their utmost to discredit it.

[bigred83]

cheers toppity
and well done on the beer with big mick gatto D
sorry ol, didnt realise u were a green fan. i think he is better than a lot give him credit for, hence y i want to see him fight high ranked opponents overseas. i was chatting to my house mate the other day and wondered if a mil would be enuff to get huck here in oz. danny could raise that easy either in perth or syd, but i would much rather brisbane, seeing as its just such a great city now top might not like me too much, haha

[oliverfennell]

I'm not specifically a Green fan per se, but I can recognise an exciting fighter and an impressive performance when I see one. It's just a shame the US fans can't do likewise when it comes from overseas.

[keyboard warrior]

Good on Briggs. Green/Briggs would be a very exciting fight if it happens, and very good for Australian boxing to see two well-liked, world-class men mixing it up.

Briggs has surprised me before. He left Thai boxing after a very bad KO loss and years later, when I heard that he had taken up boxing I was a bit skeptical. He proved me wrong with a very successful boxing career and thus I won't nay say this comeback.

Which fight did Briggs have a very bad KO loss in Thai Boxing?

I seen the Jomhod fight, which i thought Briggs was winning until the leg kicks from Jomhod discovered Briggs was weak/injured. In this fight he also had to lose 8-9 kilos in a couple of weeks to make weight for superwelter, a weight he shouldn't have fought at.

I always thought Briggsy was a boxer trying to be a Thai boxer, as he attacks were always hands, with a few high kicks, he was also very young in terms of western society for a thai boxer.

The KO I am referring to was about 1995 or 1996 at Conrad Jupiter's, Gold Coast, and it was really early in the first round. It was by a tall Frenchman who feinted a right kick before firing a laser guided straight right punch to Brigg's jaw. A really bad KO. Briggs fell forward, hands at his side face hitting the canvass and he was out cold for several minutes. Actually a memorable night for me because the French guy came over with no cornermen. He came over with a Thai team but they didn't want to corner him so Wayne Parr and myself put our hands up to be involved. Which was wierd because Wayne and Paul were good friends, we just wanted to be close to the action. I think I even carried a French flag to the ring.

From that day on I thought Paul's chin was suspect, but he surprised me as a successful boxer. I now think of him as a case in point that a long break after a KO and proper recovery is a really good thing.

(Briggs actually got KO'd several (3-4) times by leg kicks by some very ordinary or over-the-hill Thais. He was never actually as good a Thai boxer as the Australian public thinks he was. He was just the best we had at the time and a banner-bearer for a fledgling sport.)

Hope he comes back and gives Green and us fans a great show.

[bigred83]

fair nuff ol, and yea good point. it was a great performance from danny. i thought he was gonna knock rjj out, but not that soon. my thoughts were the only way rjj would win was by points. but i always thought danny would win by KO. its very dissapointing to see all the yanks and rjj himself trying to discredit danny's win as illegal(either by illegal wraps or illegal blow<how is he supposed to stop a punch when the guy turns his head???>) its just sad and clutching at straws, rjj came against a better fighter, as danny said when he lost to bumdine, the better fighter won on the night. u cant change it. i would love to see danny fix that one up, but once again is here a point when he has opened up doors for international fights???? yes its one of 2 glitches on his record that would have been nice to fix, but one he cant change now(beyer) and the other, well would draw a fair bit of cash, but we all know bumdine is too scared, would rather fight fringe fighters instead of credible opponents, eg wood, medley, crazy kim, allendro fallija, shannon taylor(who i think won that fight based on punches LANDED, not punches THROWN, but wat can u do). if that guy fought anyone with credibility without an angle then most of australia would prolly follow him, i dont care that he opens his mouth FAR TOO MUCH, if he BACKED IT UP. if he loses so be it, he had a go, and isnt that wat being aussie is all about?
sorry to drag mundine into it too much, but i felt it had to be said

[toppity]

Another good port bigred. We've had heaps said about mundine over the years, pretty much echoing your thoughts. If he walked the talk we'd generally get behind him. But it's gone too far now.

About the fight being in Brisbane I'm ok with that. Love going there for visits. It's a nice place for a beer.......mmmm beer.

[toppity]

Do you mind telling us your name keyboad warrior?

[Hounddawg]

Good on Briggs. Green/Briggs would be a very exciting fight if it happens, and very good for Australian boxing to see two well-liked, world-class men mixing it up.

Briggs has surprised me before. He left Thai boxing after a very bad KO loss and years later, when I heard that he had taken up boxing I was a bit skeptical. He proved me wrong with a very successful boxing career and thus I won't nay say this comeback.

Which fight did Briggs have a very bad KO loss in Thai Boxing?

I seen the Jomhod fight, which i thought Briggs was winning until the leg kicks from Jomhod discovered Briggs was weak/injured. In this fight he also had to lose 8-9 kilos in a couple of weeks to make weight for superwelter, a weight he shouldn't have fought at.

I always thought Briggsy was a boxer trying to be a Thai boxer, as he attacks were always hands, with a few high kicks, he was also very young in terms of western society for a thai boxer.

The KO I am referring to was about 1995 or 1996 at Conrad Jupiter's, Gold Coast, and it was really early in the first round. It was by a tall Frenchman who feinted a right kick before firing a laser guided straight right punch to Brigg's jaw. A really bad KO. Briggs fell forward, hands at his side face hitting the canvass and he was out cold for several minutes. Actually a memorable night for me because the French guy came over with no cornermen. He came over with a Thai team but they didn't want to corner him so Wayne Parr and myself put our hands up to be involved. Which was wierd because Wayne and Paul were good friends, we just wanted to be close to the action. I think I even carried a French flag to the ring.

From that day on I thought Paul's chin was suspect, but he surprised me as a successful boxer. I now think of him as a case in point that a long break after a KO and proper recovery is a really good thing.

(Briggs actually got KO'd several (3-4) times by leg kicks by some very ordinary or over-the-hill Thais. He was never actually as good a Thai boxer as the Australian public thinks he was. He was just the best we had at the time and a banner-bearer for a fledgling sport.)

Hope he comes back and gives Green and us fans a great show.

Now thats a story to tell the grandkids for the Frenchman and yourself, i never knew that.

Mate I've always enjoyed watching him fight until his last fight as a boxer against that south African....he won but it was a pretty ordinary performance and then he retired.

Mate you've got some storys to tell, wheres your Gym?

[Hounddawg]

You must all forget the warrior Paul Briggs, his chin is 100% cement, he has devastating power and a ironwill to boot.

I'm in the sport for blokes like these 2, say all you will about inactivity, but stylistically theres none better here or abroad for both fighters.

I admit i was originally shocked with the rumor, but this fight was always mean't to happen, and if it does only a strong test for Briggs comeback should suffice to prepare Briggs for Armageddon.

Green is my favorite fighter, but the last 3 blokes he fought could of all been in the same ring at the same time and Paul Briggs still would have given Green a tougher time.

Was it Ruiz or Drews who put him down? I also seem to remember that Paul Smallman either put Danny down or came close. They both have chins that are no infallable, making this an even more interesting contest.

Ruiz put Briggs down, but without making excuses for Briggsy it was a flash/off balance knockdown and he won the fight.

From memory Green has only ever seen the canvas once against an Argie like 27-5, again the same situation as Briggs but Green knocked out the Argie in either the same round or the next.

i agree neither are infallable and i totally agree with the excitement that brings to this fight. I think this has the making of a very special fight for both fighters.

[keyboard warrior]

Do you mind telling us your name keyboad warrior?

You wont have heard of me unless you watched Thai boxing in the late '90s in S-E-Qld.

My name is Jason Rice. I currently coach several amateur boxers out of the Advance Martial Arts centre, Coorparoo, Brisbane.

[Marlin]

From memory Green has only ever seen the canvas once against an Argie like 27-5, again the same situation as Briggs but Green knocked out the Argie in either the same round or the next.
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I was there that night and it was Omar Gonzales (who has a win over Roberto Duran), the fight was actually stopped on a cut. We thought it was a bit soft at the time but when Omar came to the after party and we saw the cut up close we understood. It was a gaping wound that took up half his brow.

[bigred83]

dont get me started on the beer top, i might have to go get some, haha. it is a bit hot up here today after all.... 8)

[dan h]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 80,00.html

[oliverfennell]

i dont care that he opens his mouth FAR TOO MUCH, if he BACKED IT UP. if he loses so be it, he had a go, and isnt that wat being aussie is all about?

Exactly. Despite him being a "heel", Mundine got due credit for giving it a go and performing well even in defeat against Kessler.

[adamheight]

sorry oliver but wat do u consider a world champ?

"Big four" belts, sans interim designations. I know technically the IBO is a "world championship", but only in its own words, not in general perception.

i disagree mate....theres been a lot of high profile fighters who are/were IBO champs:
* Thomas Hearns former IBO Cruiserweight champion
* Lennox Lewis, former Heavyweight champion
* Brian Nielsen, former Heavyweight champion
* James Toney, former IBO Cruiserweight champion
* Wladimir Klitschko, current IBF, WBO and IBO Heavyweight titleholder
* Roy Jones, Jr., former Light-Heavyweight champion
* Jeff Lacy, former IBO Super Middleweight champion
* Floyd Mayweather, Jr., former Welterweight champion
* Ricky Hatton, former IBO Light Welterweight champion
* Manny Pacquiao, current IBO Light Welterweight champion
* Antonio Tarver, former 3-time IBO Light-Heavyweight champion
* Chad Dawson, current IBO Light-Heavyweight champion
* Bernard Hopkins, former IBO Light Heavyweight champion
* Vic Darchinyan, former IBO Flyweight champion/former IBO Super Flyweight champion
* Nonito Donaire, former IBO Flyweight champion

[keyboard warrior]

5 years ago we would've called the WBO a minor title. Now it's pretty much seen as legit. I think the IBO is pretty close to following the same road to general acceptance.

[oliverfennell]

sorry oliver but wat do u consider a world champ?

"Big four" belts, sans interim designations. I know technically the IBO is a "world championship", but only in its own words, not in general perception.

i disagree mate....theres been a lot of high profile fighters who are/were IBO champs:
* Thomas Hearns former IBO Cruiserweight champion
* Lennox Lewis, former Heavyweight champion
* Brian Nielsen, former Heavyweight champion
* James Toney, former IBO Cruiserweight champion
* Wladimir Klitschko, current IBF, WBO and IBO Heavyweight titleholder
* Roy Jones, Jr., former Light-Heavyweight champion
* Jeff Lacy, former IBO Super Middleweight champion
* Floyd Mayweather, Jr., former Welterweight champion
* Ricky Hatton, former IBO Light Welterweight champion
* Manny Pacquiao, current IBO Light Welterweight champion
* Antonio Tarver, former 3-time IBO Light-Heavyweight champion
* Chad Dawson, current IBO Light-Heavyweight champion
* Bernard Hopkins, former IBO Light Heavyweight champion
* Vic Darchinyan, former IBO Flyweight champion/former IBO Super Flyweight champion
* Nonito Donaire, former IBO Flyweight champion

All of the above, except Nielsen, have also held "big four" belts, many of them simultaneously to the IBO.

I'm not saying Green isn't an EX world champion, he just isn't one right now.

If you're using the above logic, then are we also to accept the WBF and NBA are "world championships", because Roy Jones held those belts, the WBU because of Hatton, and the IBA because of Toney ?

[oliverfennell]

5 years ago we would've called the WBO a minor title. Now it's pretty much seen as legit. I think the IBO is pretty close to following the same road to general acceptance.

Agreed about the WBO, but while I do like the IBO's ideology, they have some work to do before they're fully accepted. If anything, they've actually regressed recently, eschewing what was once their proud approach of staying out of the machinations and now ordering eliminators and mandatories. Also, while their independent rankings are sound, they need to pare down their "world" championship to a top 10 or at least 15 to justify its name.

[dberry]

Come on, Adam, just because this trinket was thrown in to make the fight a twelve rounder/"World Title Fight' doesn't mean it's worthy, greatness by association does not apply to the I.B.O. At least the W.B.O seems to be resighned to the fact that it's the world champion of those that could't win a world championship.

If your not one of the big three belt wearers then you are merely an also ran or are being used to garner exposier and prestige.