Classic American West Coast Boxing

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rneBnB8Dos

El Ausente

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Got a damn cold. Maria's making me chicken soup and Lorenzo's making me get over the blues :TU:
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dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Lombardi
Well, you guys know I don't follow football (is that a sin to say this today?) but even I know that Lombardi is a legend.

Great work Rog!

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dagosd2000 wrote:
Expug wrote:I followed Cuevas pretty close in the 70s. Palomino too. Carlos was a favorite of mine.Lil Red also of course.
Anyway, Cuevas developed quite a reputation as a devastating puncher after his fight with Harold Weston.
At least thats how it seemed .
He busted up Weston real bad. Busted his jaw etc.From that point on it seems the guy ws feared a bit.
Maybe it was a little overblown. I wish he would have fought Carlos. I think Carlos would have beat him.

Thanks Brian on the complement on Vince. Skoronski was one of the last of Lombardi's players to see him in the hospital. He was down to 120 pounds. Vince didn't want people to see him that way.

I remember when Pipino Cuevas emerged in the spotlight.He was just what the "aficianados" were looking for. A guy to step in to take Jose Napoles's place. A big puncher. A poker face ,quiet guy. Cuevas once got into an automobile accident(so they say) and his head hit the windshield going 50 miles per hour. He supposedly walked away from it unhurt. The Mexican fans thought he was indestructible. They wrote a song about him called"Pipino Es Mi Campeon." I had friend who lived across the border who asked me if he thought Cuevas could beat Ali.

The Hearns fight broke him. When someone who is perceived as being indestructible gets destroyed like that,it has an effect. Cuevas could have redeemed himself against Duran,but was destroyed again. I saw him fight his last fight in Tijuana against Lupe Aquino. By that time Pipino was doing his training in the cantinas. Lupe destroyed him in the 2nd round.
Lupe Aquino is being inducted into the CBHOF in June....
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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
Expug wrote:I followed Cuevas pretty close in the 70s. Palomino too. Carlos was a favorite of mine.Lil Red also of course.
Anyway, Cuevas developed quite a reputation as a devastating puncher after his fight with Harold Weston.
At least thats how it seemed .
He busted up Weston real bad. Busted his jaw etc.From that point on it seems the guy ws feared a bit.
Maybe it was a little overblown. I wish he would have fought Carlos. I think Carlos would have beat him.

Thanks Brian on the complement on Vince. Skoronski was one of the last of Lombardi's players to see him in the hospital. He was down to 120 pounds. Vince didn't want people to see him that way.

I remember when Pipino Cuevas emerged in the spotlight.He was just what the "aficianados" were looking for. A guy to step in to take Jose Napoles's place. A big puncher. A poker face ,quiet guy. Cuevas once got into an automobile accident(so they say) and his head hit the windshield going 50 miles per hour. He supposedly walked away from it unhurt. The Mexican fans thought he was indestructible. They wrote a song about him called"Pipino Es Mi Campeon." I had friend who lived across the border who asked me if he thought Cuevas could beat Ali.

The Hearns fight broke him. When someone who is perceived as being indestructible gets destroyed like that,it has an effect. Cuevas could have redeemed himself against Duran,but was destroyed again. I saw him fight his last fight in Tijuana against Lupe Aquino. By that time Pipino was doing his training in the cantinas. Lupe destroyed him in the 2nd round.
Lupe Aquino is being inducted into the CBHOF in June....

Anyone else? :lol:
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Randyman wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Lombardi
Well, you guys know I don't follow football (is that a sin to say this today?) but even I know that that Lombardi is a legend.

Great work Rog!

Randy :TU:

Randy
Thanks. I don't follow it much anymore. I like to follow Amanda's dancing. BTW. She's taking Tango lessons. She's the youngest one in the class. Her teacher is from Argentina. Met her last night. She told me "some have it,some don't. Amanda is a natural." Her teacher,Colette,is going to move her ahead of the others.

Better than any football game for me. :bow:
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dagosd2000 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4BZ2-hBbsA

Hearns/Cuevas
Ouch!

This is the fight that sold my father on Hearns beating Leonard. The last fight he saw with Hearns was the Randy Shields fight. He passed away a couple of weeks later. To his dying day (literally) he insisted that Hearns would be too much for Leonard. It was not an unreasonable thought at the time. Hearns in fact was beating Leonard but he was out boxing the boxer. Leonard showed he was the real thing by coming back in the fight and stopping Hearns in the 14th round. Hearns chin betrayed him. It wouldn't be the last time either. We couldn't know that at the time. Who would've thunk?

Hearns stopped my favorite fighter, Roberto Duran, similar to the way he did Cuevas. In all fairness to Duran though, he was still in some quasi limbo state for a few years after the 2nd Leonard fight (in fact he would periodically be in a quasi limbo state for the rest of his career) and I don't think he was anywhere near to being the real Duran or maybe I'm just in a quasi state of limbo and denial. :witzend:

From the furthest reaches of the quasi limbo land of denial
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dagosd2000 wrote:
Randyman wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Lombardi
Well, you guys know I don't follow football (is that a sin to say this today?) but even I know that that Lombardi is a legend.

Great work Rog!

Randy :TU:

Randy
Thanks. I don't follow it much anymore. I like to follow Amanda's dancing. BTW. She's taking Tango lessons. She's the youngest one in the class. Her teacher is from Argentina. Met her last night. She told me "some have it,some don't. Amanda is a natural." Her teacher,Colette,is going to move her ahead of the others.

Better than any football game for me. :bow:
:TU: :TU: :TU: :TU:
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Recognize this guy?
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Randyman wrote:Image
Recognize this guy?
Frank Sinatra look-alike and future pugilist Randy de la O!!
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Randyman wrote:Image
Recognize this guy?
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Joe Louis & Max Schmeling II
June 22, 1938


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NOTE: Author David Margolick in his book Beyond the Glory Joe Louis v. Max Schmeling and a World on the Brink quotes a New York Sun account from June 23, 1938 as follows,

..." Stripped naked, he (Schmeling) stood on the scales , grinning and winking at the press. He came in at 193, a bit lighter than he expected, but a pound heavier than for the first Louis fight. When Louis's (sic) turnn came he balked. " I ain't going to take my pants off., he declared. "Make 'em turn those things off," he added, pointing to the cameras. After a three minute huddle, Roxborough (Louis' manager) announced that if the cameras were shut off and lights lowered ,Louis would drop his trunks. Louis weighed 198 3/4"

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raylawpc wrote:
Randyman wrote:Image
Recognize this guy?
Frank Sinatra look-alike and future pugilist Randy de la O!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VJY97l0jVA


The Lady Is A Tramp
Frank
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dagosd2000 wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
Randyman wrote:Image
Recognize this guy?
Frank Sinatra look-alike and future pugilist Randy de la O!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VJY97l0jVA


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Frank
Thanks for the song Rog and speaking of Sinatra I'm listening to his CD "In the we small hours of the morning" Great CD.

That photo is from around 1960.

Randy :OhYes:
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I love tacos of any type, soft tacos with carne asada or carnitas or any number of meats or fillings but when I'm at home sitting at my dinner table this is what I want. A hard shell taco with ground beef and bits of potatoes, plain, just salt and pepper with lettuce, tomatoes and cheese, laced with Lindy's Taco Sauce, tomatoey and vinegary.

These types of tacos are not made in Mexico but in the East L.A. where I was born and especially in Texas and most of the southwest this is a taco. They were good.

Randy :D
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Rick Farris is being inducted into the CBHOF.... :TU: :TU:
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kikibalt wrote:Rick Farris is being inducted into the CBHOF.... :TU: :TU:
Congratulations Rick. Many years ago, when Mel first told me about you, he said you were "a deserving guy". He was right. Mel would be pleased, as would Johnny Flores. I'm proud of you my friend and proud to be your friend! :bow:

Randy :box:
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Rick Farris is being inducted into the CBHOF.... :TU: :TU:
Congratulations Rick. Many years ago, when Mel first told me about you, he said you were "a deserving guy". He was right. Mel would be pleased, as would Johnny Flores. I'm proud of you my friend and proud to be your friend! :bow:

Randy :box:
A well deserved honor.... :TU:
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I'm overwhelmed. Thank you.
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Rick Farris wrote:I'm overwhelmed. Thank you.
Rick
The honor couldn't go to a more deserving guy(and friend) :TU:
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Randyman wrote:Image
I love tacos of any type, soft tacos with carne asada or carnitas or any number of meats or fillings but when I'm at home sitting at my dinner table this is what I want. A hard shell taco with ground beef and bits of potatoes, plain, just salt and pepper with lettuce, tomatoes and cheese, laced with Lindy's Taco Sauce, tomatoey and vinegary.

These types of tacos are not made in Mexico but in the East L.A. where I was born and especially in Texas and most of the southwest this is a taco. They were good.

Randy :D

Randy
My wife calls these types of tacos,"tacos dorados."
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Hey Frank
What book are you reading?
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dagosd2000 wrote:
Randyman wrote:Image
I love tacos of any type, soft tacos with carne asada or carnitas or any number of meats or fillings but when I'm at home sitting at my dinner table this is what I want. A hard shell taco with ground beef and bits of potatoes, plain, just salt and pepper with lettuce, tomatoes and cheese, laced with Lindy's Taco Sauce, tomatoey and vinegary.

These types of tacos are not made in Mexico but in the East L.A. where I was born and especially in Texas and most of the southwest this is a taco. They were good.

Randy :D

Randy
My wife calls these types of tacos,"tacos dorados."
Yeah, I know but Pocho that I am and growing up in L.A. I just call them hard shell tacos. I rarely if ever order these at a restaurant. If I order tacos at a restaurant or taco stand, I'll order tacos de carne asada, lengua, barbacoa, etc. You know the drill. I remember when we were having breakfast with Gaspar Ortega and his wife, I listed all the things I like to eat and Gaspar's eyes opened up and he smiled and said "That what I like to eat too!" It made him happy just to think about it.

Randy :lol:
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Randyman wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
Randyman wrote:Image
I love tacos of any type, soft tacos with carne asada or carnitas or any number of meats or fillings but when I'm at home sitting at my dinner table this is what I want. A hard shell taco with ground beef and bits of potatoes, plain, just salt and pepper with lettuce, tomatoes and cheese, laced with Lindy's Taco Sauce, tomatoey and vinegary.

These types of tacos are not made in Mexico but in the East L.A. where I was born and especially in Texas and most of the southwest this is a taco. They were good.

Randy :D

Randy
My wife calls these types of tacos,"tacos dorados."
Yeah, I know but Pocho that I am and growing up in L.A. I just call them hard shell tacos. I rarely if ever order these at a restaurant. If I order tacos at a restaurant or taco stand, I'll order tacos de carne asada, lengua, barbacoa, etc. You know the drill. I remember when we were having breakfast with Gaspar Ortega and his wife, I listed all the things I like to eat and Gaspar's eyes opened up and he smiled and said "That what I like to eat too!" It made him happy just to think about it.

Randy :lol:
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If you and Jeri or any of the other guys come down here,we'll take a spin to TJ to a place called Tacos El Gordo. There are several of them,but the one by the jail is unbelievable. Mulas,Gordas,tacos al vapor,tacos de lengua,tacos al pastor,tacos de carne asada. The place ain't a secret. Everyone in town knows about it. Best tacos in the world. :bow:
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