Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Rick Farris]

Ten minutes to Super Bowl . . .

I'm going for the Saints, which pretty much puts the jinx on their chances of winning.
Frank, I'm sure Charlie will have his eye on Reggie Bush.

[dagosd2000]

A CRUSTY OLD FART

George Dickson used to coach for Lombardi at Washington. Prior to that he was the backfield coach at Notre Dame under Parsegian.So when George Dickson came to Clairemont High School to help out under head coach Nate Wright,Dickson found himself in a world that he wasn't accustomed to. Nate Wright had played ball at San Diego State and later for the Vikings. With Wright on the staff were a bevy of former pro players. Dan Audick(49ers),Monte Jackson(Raiders),and Dickson.Then there was me. No pro football on my resume.

George Dickson was a lot older than the rest of the staff. He had a shaved head and could fill the air with cuss words that would make a drill sergeant wince.In fact he reminded me of a Marine Corps drill sergeant. Come to think of it,he might have been one at some time.

Well Dickson didn't take well with the Southern California High School scene. This was back in 85 and the old boy might might as well been put in a hippy commune. He couldn't understand why boys and girls were grouped together in P.E. classes.
"Sh#t,I can't tell the girls from the boys nowadays!"
Old grouchy puss couldn't understand the work ethic of today's athletes either.
"Sh#t,these kids today play like their mothers' take it in the a##."
Everybody was either "thimble d#ck" or "numb nuts."Dickson was one of the most disgusted guys I ever met. Yet with all his belly aching,he came off as being a comic. Sometimes I'd ask him something just to hear his negative response. I once asked him about fighters.
"Fighters?"he scoffed. "Sh#t,if they weren't fighting ,they'd be in jail.Half of them have syphillis anyway."
I could tell that he must have had a respect for fighters.

[Expug]

The Saints running back coach is a gent named Brett Engles.
He just took the job this year.
He and his family lived around the corner from us until this year.
His kids were in school with my kids.
Last year he was an assistant at Northwestern. Nice guy. Im hoping the saints can pull it out.

[Rick Farris]

Peyton Manning?

[Rick Farris]

More from Hap Navarro . . . (courtesy CBZ)
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Mar 2006 - THE HISTORY OF L.A. BOXING by HAP NAVARRO
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Newsboy Brown defeated champion Al Brown on Dec. 15, 1931, at the L.A. Olympic and just three weeks later, on Jan. 4, 1932, Speedy Dado outclassed Al Brown in the same ring. Li'l Speedy had to come into the ring a quarter pound over the bantam limit to save Al Brown's title. Neither one of the victors ever got a second shot at the champion, whose handlers took pains in staying clear of California and its plethora of terrific little battlers, Brown, Dado, Arizmendi, Young Tommy, Jo Tei Ken and Fidel La Barba, all of whom were ranked among the top ten challengers to Al Brown's crown.

It is obvious that Al Brown's brain trust did not need to expose the champ to bantams of the caliber of the California challengers. The Panamanian hacked out a Hall of Fame lifetime record by taking on many of the better bantams from abroad. I am not disputing Brown's greatness because I don't know all of the facts in this matter. Suffice it to say he was really an imposing figure. standing almost six feet tall, weighing 118 poinds and with a great advantage over his contemporaries in the reach department.

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[kikibalt]

Peyton Manning?

What the hell is wrong with NO?, they are not using Reggie Bush, to win they need to use Bush more ...

[Rick Farris]

Another Hap Navarro classic (courtesy CBZ) . . .
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When Ring Attire Mattered...

There was a time in California boxing when what boxers wore into the ring was usually mandated by Athletic Commisiion ruling-there were two prevalent choices, white trunks with black piping or black trunks with white stripes. The ultimate choice had to be clearly stipulated in the official signed contracts. Robes were optional to the extent of no robe at all, if need be.

There was a kid boxing out of Michigan who came to us at Hollywood and bent the rules a little by entering combat wearing gold lame trunks. A fashion statement to say the least, for a youngster who showed some fighting gifts but didn't stay in the game enough to advance them. That happened way back in the late 1940s. His name was Joey Andary.

During W.W. II years a promising young lightweight took the southland by storm departing from the customary black/white shaded trunks to attire himself in short pants that appeared to be patch-wear--- broad rose and white bands of cloth running form the beltline to his knees.

L.A.'s working press were quiick to apply the nick-name of "Fancy Pants" to Paul Requejo (ray-kay-ho} from the first time they laid eyes on him and, given the lad's flair for rousing combat the fans really liked him.

Checking Paul's data on Boxrec I noticed he is still listed as "Fancy Pants" although his surname is spelled with a "g" instead of a "q". It was also intersting to note that he managed to show a couple of times at Madison Square Garden, and that he quit the game while still a very young man.

Does anyone know why?

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[Rick Farris]

Peyton Manning?

What the hell is wrong with NO?, they are not using Reggie Bush, to win they need to use Bush more ...

Yeah, where's Bush?

[kikibalt]

Peyton Manning?

What the hell is wrong with NO?, they are not using Reggie Bush, to win they need to use Bush more ...

Yeah, where's Bush?

He is there, he run a couple of plays, but thats it, are the coaches piss at him or what?

[Rick Farris]

Saints DD

[kikibalt]

Saints DD

YESSSSSSSSSS!!......

[THEHAMMER321]

hi guys happy superbowl day,watched Valero fight yesterday reminded me of another knockout puncher from Venezuela Engels Pedroza who ran up a string of 19 kos before a guy took him into the late rounds and stopped him in 9 he fought mostly in California and Nevada late 1980s till the 1990s anybody remember him

[Expug]

Congrats on the induction Rick.Well deserved it is my friend.

[raylawpc]

Rick, congrats on your selection for the CBHOF.

[dagosd2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myo2vOIGvLQ

The Bicycle Thief(Vittorio De Sica director)

Look up what's it like to be an Italian male in the dictionary. You'll find this. "We can do anything we want. We're both men."
What a curse!!!

BTW. They're eating Bruscetta. Mozzarella on toasted bread with olive oil and oregano. A peasant meal for a king.

[kikibalt]

hi guys happy superbowl day,watched Valero fight yesterday reminded me of another knockout puncher from Venezuela Engels Pedroza who ran up a string of 19 kos before a guy took him into the late rounds and stopped him in 9 he fought mostly in California and Nevada late 1980s till the 1990s anybody remember him

Knew Pedroza well, he and Tony fought on the same card at Bally's couple of times. Btw Engels fought for Jimmy Montoya. He and Tony were good friends. Engels married a girl from Vegas, Mary, who than wanted to be his manager, and you know how those things work out.
Engels was just another wild puncher without boxing skills who when taken into the late rounds would most likely get ko

[kikibalt]

Rick, congrats on your selection for the CBHOF.

Tom, your boy Sean is also being inducted....

Hope to meet you in June....

[kikibalt]

Ten minutes to Super Bowl . . .

I'm going for the Saints, which pretty much puts the jinx on their chances of winning.
Frank, I'm sure Charlie will have his eye on Reggie Bush.

He did, Rick, but he was having a hard time finding the dude...
But no matter the Saints won.

WHO DAT?

[THEHAMMER321]

Frank another guy who I remember well from the 1980s was Tommy Cordova from New Mexico he fought many times here in vegas I remember his fights with Freddie Roach,Rocky Garcia he was a limited guy but he was entertaining because he threw a million punches except the punches couldn't break an egg,last I heard he got in trouble with the law

[kikibalt]

Frank another guy who I remember well from the 1980s was Tommy Cordova from New Mexico he fought many times here in vegas I remember his fights with Freddie Roach,Rocky Garcia he was a limited guy but he was entertaining because he threw a million punches except the punches couldn't break an egg,last I heard he got in trouble with the law

Hammer...I remember Tommy C. well, last I heard he was in bad shape, to many punches?

[dagosd2000]

TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN

When I was coaching fooball at Point Loma High School,one of the kids on the team was J.J. Stokes. Our team was all offense and no defense. Whoever had the ball last would usually win the game. Our QB,Danny White, led the county in completions,percentage,and TD throws. Stokes and the other wideout,Bret Callan, were one two in receptions and TD catches. Our running back,Marlon Manassa,ran for over 1400 yards.

We beat the LA. city champs that year,Fremont,but didn't get far in our county playoffs because we just couldn't stop the opposition.

The above mentioned boys all got good rides to Division One schools. White went to Arizona. Callan went to Cal. Manassa went to San Diego State. But J.J. Stokes was the kid everyone wanted. After consulting with the coaches and his dad,J.J. picked UCLA. By the time of his junior year J.J. led the nation in TD catches,was most valuable player in the Pac Ten,and was a first team All America. He was getting the big offers to skip his senior year and enter the draft. He was a lock to go in the first round.

Well, after talking to his dad,J.J. was convinced to stay at UCLA his senior year. I didn't want to fight his father's decision,but I shook my head. What's the point of going to college anyway? To graduate and get a big job . J.J. was looking at millions after his junior year,but turned it down.

Well the following season UCLA was playing on opening day on TV. The first pass thrown to J.J. he catches,but turns his knee. That senior year J.J. played with a limp. A few games he was on the sidelines. He finished up with lukewarm stats. No All America honor.

However, in the pro draft J.J. was selected by the 49ers,not for the bucks he would have gotten if he'd gone after his junior year,but it was a nice chunk of change. The 49ers wanted him to be the heir apparent to Jerry Rice. . But I noticed when watching J.J. that he'd lost some of his speed. He couldn't separate from receivers like he wanted. He had a year that he caught over 60 balls,but that old knee injury was still a problem for him.

Eventually,J.J. lost his staring position to Terrell Owens.J.J. retired with plenty of dough. His father made sure that it was invested properly. But I often think about these kids that jump ship like Mark Sanchez for example. Then the NBA has made a rule not to go after high school kids like what happened to Kobe and LeBron. Anybody can be a bust whether you stay in school or not,but my attitude is to go for the money. I've talked to J.J. since a couple of times.I asked him about his decision to play his senior year at UCLA. J.J. didn't want to cry over spilled milk,but he said he said he would have taken the money and run, instead of with a limp.

[kikibalt]

Joe Louis & Promoter Mike Jacobs
January 23, 1949, Miami, Florida

[THEHAMMER321]

Thinking about Jimmy Montoya back then I remember people use to refer to him as Montoya's meat wagon because he would provide fighters for the promoters who couldn't hold up there hands some of the fighters he worked with were so so but he worked with a lot of stiffs

[Rick Farris]

Ten minutes to Super Bowl . . .

I'm going for the Saints, which pretty much puts the jinx on their chances of winning.
Frank, I'm sure Charlie will have his eye on Reggie Bush.

He did, Rick, but he was having a hard time finding the dude...
But no matter the Saints won.

WHO DAT?

What a great day for New Orleans! Ironic that they won their first Super Bowl by defeating an all-time great QB (Peyton Manning) whose father just happens to be a legendary Saints QB, Archie Manning. I will say this, that Peyton Manning is brilliant. When I saw him throwing strikes in the Colts first drive, I had my doubts the Saints would make it.

Frank, a "high five" for Charlie, from me.


-Rick Farris

[Rick Farris]

Thinking about Jimmy Montoya back then I remember people use to refer to him as Montoya's meat wagon because he would provide fighters for the promoters who couldn't hold up there hands some of the fighters he worked with were so so but he worked with a lot of stiffs

Hammer . . . I don't know Jimmy Montoya very well, but I have always respected him.
However, it's ironic that you mention Jimmy's "meat wagon", as just yesterday Don Fraser said the exact same thing.


-Rick Farris