Spoke to Lovemore again last night

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 17 Feb 2005, 04:19

This is what he said....

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-a ... ter-dead!/

Not a happy chappy.

J · Post by J » 17 Feb 2005, 05:19

bugger, what a shame.

thanks tho David your been A1 on this one mate, cheers for the constant updates! Good work fella even if it is a bringing bad news

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 17 Feb 2005, 05:38

You can see it from N'Dou's point of view if he is serious about his ambition and wants the WBC eliminator.

Still, you'd think Hennessay would have such a thing as a fax machine to make clear the position before N'Dou squandered his Quantas airmiles

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 17 Feb 2005, 06:38

great work David!!!

N'dou makes a good point about the shit contract... i think once he was in LA they thought that he would sign anything "as he was already there and in training"... not saying this is what happened or that if that is what happend only Hennesey would do that. i think it is a powerful tool used by promoters...
Universum have used it to there advantage in recent years.... Branco was due to fight Ulrich, Ulrich was sick..... so they offered Branco a replacement in Drews.... A shit fight for branco but they knew after all the training expenses and the like he wouldnt turn it down..... same thing happened in another universum fight but it escapes me at the moment.

obviously N'dou is string enough to turn it down!!! good luck to him!!

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 17 Feb 2005, 07:10

Hmm not convinced. I can understand is anger if the situation is as described but why request an eliminator - does he deserve one (possibly) and would he win the title anyway (Not likely)?

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 17 Feb 2005, 09:42

at the end of the day Ndou owes hennesey, witter or us guys fornicate ALL!!!!

its his choice, sure it would have been a great match.... but its his career..... he has fought at last minute against top names before and lost close decisions..... he has shown his heart and bravery

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 17 Feb 2005, 09:52

What the hell is Witter wanting rematch clauses for? What happened to his confidence. 20 grand for ndou? That is an insult to him.

No wonder he fucked off.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 17 Feb 2005, 10:07

The rematch clause if at all, was probably the promoter's idea, not Witter's. I can understand N'dou's decision

20 grand is not a bad paday, Pinto was offered $50,000 to fight Hatton, so 20 grand isn't bad at all, as this isn't the main event.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 17 Feb 2005, 10:11

$20k for aknown name to fly half way round the world for a supposed WBC eliminator is shit.

He'll be lucky to break even on the trip.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 17 Feb 2005, 10:26

It's a big shame but all things considered this match shouldn't happen and that's the end of it. If N'Dou took the fight and lost everyone would be saying how foolish he'd been.

Hopefully they will get it on down the line seeing as there doesn't appear to be much of a rift between the promoters. It's the perfect step up for Witter, the kind Ricky Hatton should be taking IMO rather than leaping right up to King Kostya in one go.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 17 Feb 2005, 10:52

DavidPayne wrote:$20k for aknown name to fly half way round the world for a supposed WBC eliminator is shit.

He'll be lucky to break even on the trip.

It happens all the time, it may be shit, but there's nothing unusual about it. N'dou is a name, but not a ticket seller.

Look how much DLH gave Yori Boy Campas, $50,000 I seem to recall, DLH got 20 times that much, and that was a main event.

I thought he was offered £20,000 which is $40,000. .

As I said, Witter is not the big name on the bill, it's a supporting fight.

To be honest though, I think N'dou has done the right thing by himself, if he lost again, he really does just become a stepping stone. He needs to actually take a fight and win it, instead of always coming in at short notice, it's career suicide.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 17 Feb 2005, 11:05

DavidPayne wrote:$20k for aknown name to fly half way round the world for a supposed WBC eliminator is shit.

He'll be lucky to break even on the trip.

Johnny Bredahl got $10k for fighting Paulie Ayala (Ayala got $1,5mill)

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 17 Feb 2005, 11:05

Nope it was $20k

I know what your saying, opponents get peanuts but even on that basis I think $20k on 21 days notice for an Eliminator was shallow.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 17 Feb 2005, 11:06

Yeah. That is pretty tight. Then again, who is to say Witter is on a fat wedge?

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 17 Feb 2005, 11:10

Freiheit wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:$20k for aknown name to fly half way round the world for a supposed WBC eliminator is shit.

He'll be lucky to break even on the trip.
Johnny Bredahl got $10k for fighting Paulie Ayala (Ayala got $1,5mill)

Well Bredahl is dafter than he looks then.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 17 Feb 2005, 11:26

Freiheit wrote: Johnny Bredahl got $10k for fighting Paulie Ayala (Ayala got $1,5mill)

You'd have to be on drugs to accept a deal like that.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 17 Feb 2005, 11:53

He tourght that he would have a good chance of winning, and it could have been his only chance for winning a world title. I think he got at least the danish TV rights also.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 17 Feb 2005, 12:03

like Freiheit suggests it wouldnt have been stupid if he won and defended at home for $500000 a go....

Judah did something similar recently and won...... Bredhal took a risk and it didnt pay off

hitterwitter · Post by **hitterwitter** » 17 Feb 2005, 12:04

Has Mick Hennesay said anything about this yet?? I've got a feelin witter my do what n'dous done and go home with out fighting.
I thought n'dou stepping in for branco was to good to be true.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 17 Feb 2005, 13:11

Judah got $100,000 to face Spinks again. Not a lot but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have fought for 10k.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 17 Feb 2005, 15:46

Kilburn wrote:Judah got $100,000 to face Spinks again. Not a lot but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have fought for 10k.

true, but Judah was getting huge purses before so relatively there probably isnt much difference

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 Feb 2005, 16:33

Kilburn wrote:
Freiheit wrote: Johnny Bredahl got $10k for fighting Paulie Ayala (Ayala got $1,5mill)
You'd have to be on drugs to accept a deal like that.

Paulie Ayala v Pete Doherty anyone?

Nels · Post by **Nels** » 17 Feb 2005, 16:45

007 wrote...

>> Paulie Ayala versus Pete Doherty

I'd pay to watch that; I think Ayala would do him. Actually I'd pay more to see Vitali Klitkenstein against Doherty.

I had to interview the little twat back when he was in that awful Jam covers band (oops, I mean the Libertines) and he hadn't sold any records and he was a complete cretin then.