That Eubank Uppercut.

[skelp]

The uppercut that Eubank used against Michael Watson, I believe was a martial arts technique aimed at maiming or killing his opponent.

Eubank mentions in his book that he trained in Chinese Boxing, or as it is also known Wing Chun. The punch appears to land at a 45 degree angle to the chin. In Martial Arts circles it is known by those trained to a high level that by striking the human anatomy at a 45 degree angle it is possible to break joints, rupture muscle tissue or even kill.

I believe that Eubank deliberately threw that punch with the intention of decapitating Watson. Only Watson's strong neck development prevented his skull from seperating from his spine.

What do you other guys think?

[Counter-puncher]

i believe Eubank was so exhausted when he threw that punch that it was nothing but instinct in operation. and the rest of what you say is, well, a tad weird.

[Ezzard]

skelp...

I want to answer that is what you say is true then why didn't he just throw it round 1 of every fight he ever had?

BUT I'm hoping this is a wind up.

[hhaehre]

I believe that Eubank deliberately threw that punch with the intention of decapitating Watson. Only Watson's strong neck development prevented his skull from seperating from his spine.

What do you other guys think?

I heard that Eubank fought on the unlicensed circuit before he turned pro and that he decapitated no less than 7 opponents in 15 unlicensed bouts. Rumour has it he is using the severed scull of an opponent as a paper weight in his study. If my sources are correct he now lives in an opium den in Shanghai, shacked up with the 7 former wives of the guys that he killed. What do you think?

[skelp]

skelp...
I want to answer that is what you say is true then why didn't he just throw it round 1 of every fight he ever had?
BUT I'm hoping this is a wind up.

Simple, none of Eubank's previous opponents had hurt him like Watson did. He threw it because Watson had him down and humiliated, remember it was a vicious fight.

[hhaehre]

skelp...
I want to answer that is what you say is true then why didn't he just throw it round 1 of every fight he ever had?
BUT I'm hoping this is a wind up.

Simple, none of Eubank's previous opponents had hurt him like Watson did. He threw it because Watson had him down and humiliated, remember it was a vicious fight.

Surely you don't seriously believe it's even possible to sever a fighters head from his spine with an uppercut do you?

[dempseyfire]

LOL at this thread.

[skelp]

Surely you don't seriously believe it's even possible to sever a fighters head from his spine with an uppercut do you?

I have knowledge of martial arts, it is possible to break the neck at the angle that Eubank's punch landed. Whether the neck seperates from the skull at the fusion point or slightly below, it can still be classed as a decapitation.

[Counter-puncher]

you're ace

[skelp]

LOL at this thread.

What's so funny? It's a serious issue, Let's not forget the tragic outcome for Watson.

[skelp]

I think he means something like a C1 fracture where technically you could get separation of skull from vertrebral column but will soft tissue still attached ( like when you hang somebody). Would have to be one hell of a punch!!!

Exactly, at last someone who knows where I am coming from.

[Ezzard]

skelp

I'm not saying such a death blow isn't possible. Maybe you know more about all this but if Eubank had this in his armoury you'd have thought he'd have taken on more challenging opponents in his career.

[BoxBuzz]

I thought for sure the 45 degree angle punch was outlawed. Isn't that why the referee keeps an engineer's compass (Shown Below) in their back pocket at all times?

[skelp]

skelp
I'm not saying such a death blow isn't possible. Maybe you know more about all this but if Eubank had this in his armoury you'd have thought he'd have taken on more challenging opponents in his career.

Eubank had a conscience, he was a thinking fighter; these kind of guys don't have raw aggression, they need to be provoked or pushed to the limits before they take the drastic action that Eubank did. He would not have wanted to do this intentionally, only if he thought his life was in danger. But, he did fight challenging opponents in Benn, Watson and Collins.

[BoxBuzz]

skelp, By utilizing a prop (in this case a picture of a compass) I'm making a point, (oops I did it again) to whomever it was that seems to be suggesting that a punch from a certain angle is perhaps off base. If it was you, please do not take humor as trolling. It's perfectly acceptable around these parts to have a sense of humor in the way you make a "point."

Was it you that made the suggestion that a planned 45 degree punch might be outside the bounds of the sport? If so I respectfully and humorously as well as vigilantly disagree with you.

You are welcome to use humor in your reply. However you are also welcome to be grumpy and curmudgeon-like as well.

Neither would be considered trolling.


The rules do outlaw hate-speech and personal attacks.

[Collins2000]

Surely you don't seriously believe it's even possible to sever a fighters head from his spine with an uppercut do you?

I have knowledge of martial arts, it is possible to break the neck at the angle that Eubank's punch landed. Whether the neck seperates from the skull at the fusion point or slightly below, it can still be classed as a decapitation.

[skelp]

A man is paralysed, and you want to crack jokes about it. There is a time and place for humour and this thread ain't it. Just close the thread for all I care.

[BoxBuzz]

A man is paralysed, and you want to crack jokes about it. There is a time and place for humour and this thread ain't it. Just close the thread for all I care.

I think I'm going to add another relevant statement to what I now see as an expressed opinion in these matters.

"Protect yourself at all times"

Sometimes bad things happen in boxing. As in almost all sports, or for that matter in peoples Kitchens, Garages and on Trains. An angle that a punch in boxing is thrown from is just another risk to be tolerated, at least in the sport of boxing. IMHO.

I am a head injury support specialist. I have given much of my time in life to attend to such serious matters. I understand the gravity of such an event. But I don't suggest we wrap ourselves or others in packing peanuts and pillows and give up our lives to avoid risks.

Moments such as this are never funny, but some of the reactions I've seen from folks could be considered a bit hysterical. If you want to devote some time to the care and support of such victims, I would be happy to talk to you about in a PM if you are truly interested in the subject. IF this was a family member please know I don't mean to be insensitive. I do however believe I disagree with your premise. And you did ask what we thought.

[coghaugen11]

Certainly not out of the question. It is 100% true that Eubank was being taught Wing Chun in the Bronx in his very early 20s, and also Eubank stated he was willing to give his own life or more than willing to take one if neccesary, seeing as it was legal.

[Robinson]

Please do not lessen the excellence of Eubank or any boxer
by attributing anything that they do to Martial Arts. It is like
saying a surgeon used new age medicine during a major
medical operation.

[dberry]

Please do not lessen the excellence of Eubank or any boxer
by attributing anything that they do to Martial Arts. It is like
saying a surgeon used new age medicine during a major
medical operation.

C'mon, Robbo, we all know he was trying to use that upper cut to strike his opponent on the nose, forcing his nose bone up into his brain. I also know of boxers who have successfully applied
the heart punch, causing their opponent to suffer a massive and lethal heart attack some time in the future.

Seriously though, technically, boxing is also a martial art.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Certainly not out of the question. It is 100% true that Eubank was being taught Wing Chun in the Bronx in his very early 20s, and also Eubank stated he was willing to give his own life or more than willing to take one if neccesary, seeing as it was legal.

Eubank's quality of opposition states otherwise.

[Goodnight, Irene]

I thought for sure the 45 degree angle punch was outlawed. Isn't that why the referee keeps an engineer's compass (Shown Below) in their back pocket at all times?

Until this thread, I never knew Eubank was some monster killing machine, held back from being unleashed on the Boxing world by conscience & decency only...

[BoxBuzz]

The fact that there is no restriction on the 45 degree punch is cause for concern.

[Collins2000]

The fact that there is no restriction on the 45 degree punch is cause for concern.

My main concern is that it has only previously been revealed to "those trained to a high level".

Now everyone knows about it!