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Randyman wrote:
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THEHAMMER321 wrote:Frank and Rick you guys been mising do I gotta put you guys on a milk carton :lol:
Haven't being feeling good Hammer
Sorry to hear that you don't feel well Frank. Hang in there. Hope you feel better soon.

Randy :(
Thanks Randy, got myself a nasty stomach virus that just won't go away, guess its time to go see my doctor.... :witzend:
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kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote: Haven't being feeling good Hammer
Sorry to hear that you don't feel well Frank. Hang in there. Hope you feel better soon.

Randy :(
Thanks Randy, got myself a nasty stomach virus that just won't go away, guess its time to go see my doctor.... :witzend:
Frank
Sorry to hear about your virus. If that's what is,the doc won't give you anything. Eat a lot of ruffage(pyslium husks) and drink a lot of water. Hot tea. Lay off greasy stuff and cold drinks.Lots of reast. Rog
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kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote: Sorry to hear that you don't feel well Frank. Hang in there. Hope you feel better soon.

Randy :(
Thanks Randy, got myself a nasty stomach virus that just won't go away, guess its time to go see my doctor.... :witzend:
Frank
Sorry to hear about your virus. If that's what is,the doc won't give you anything. Eat a lot of ruffage(pyslium husks) and drink a lot of water. Hot tea. Lay off greasy stuff and cold drinks.Lots of reast. Rog
Roger...I really don't know what it is, I'm saying a virus because thats the first thing that comes to my mind, it like what we used to call the stomach flu, don't have the runs, but close to it, with tummy ache, body aches, feel like s***.... :witzend:
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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote: Thanks Randy, got myself a nasty stomach virus that just won't go away, guess its time to go see my doctor.... :witzend:
Frank
Sorry to hear about your virus. If that's what is,the doc won't give you anything. Eat a lot of ruffage(pyslium husks) and drink a lot of water. Hot tea. Lay off greasy stuff and cold drinks.Lots of reast. Rog
Roger...I really don't know what it is, I'm saying a virus because thats the first thing that comes to my mind, it like what we used to call the stomach flu, don't have the runs, but close to it, with tummy ache, body aches, feel like s***.... :witzend:

Frank
When Maria and the kids came back from Michoacan I caught something ,I think,from my daughter.She had the Montezuma thing. I had it for two weeks. Got worried. Went to the doc. Told him what I was doing for it. He said if it didn't go away in a week,to see him. It went away in a few days.BTW.No booze either. You'll be OK. :TU:
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Roger...My granddaugter Sierra just walked in and told me she has it too (stomach virus)
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dagosd2000 wrote:I asked in TJ if Mexico would give Tony a license. They said the Mexican Commission is waiting for some state in the U.S.(preferably California) to reinstate him first.
Nest Stop, Palookaville . . .

I wouldn't mind seeing Margarito reinstated. I really want to watch him take another painful ass-whipping.
If one day I were to see him walking on his heels in TJ (which he eventually will) I'd likely smile.
I don't feel that way toward boxers. I understand that people make mistakes, and I've certainly made my share.
But for some reason, this really crosses the line with me.
The guy is a heavy handed puncher under any circumstance. Add a little weight to those heavy hands? Minimize the cushion?
This was Team Margarito's plan, facing a 38-year-old challenger, a 5-to-1 underdog.
This certainly wasn't a first in boxing, most people involved are garbage. We only talk about the good guys here.
Margarito's beat down of Cotto, the way the Puerto Rican reacted to the blows, seemed to suggest something was different?
Forget Cotto, because there is nothing beyond speculation.
But in the Mosely fight they were caught, and Shane humiliated him beyond belief. I love Mosely for that, he's a man.
If they really want to get some box-office out of this this bum, they should overmatch him.
I'd happily watch to see the man punished and humiliated further. Regardless, he is a sad case in the making.
And in this case, I find that amusing. I'll gladly watch this boxer stumble down the road to Palookaville.
As Ruben Navarro might say . . . "FEED HIM BEANS."
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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote: Thanks Randy, got myself a nasty stomach virus that just won't go away, guess its time to go see my doctor.... :witzend:
Frank
Sorry to hear about your virus. If that's what is,the doc won't give you anything. Eat a lot of ruffage(pyslium husks) and drink a lot of water. Hot tea. Lay off greasy stuff and cold drinks.Lots of reast. Rog
Roger...I really don't know what it is, I'm saying a virus because thats the first thing that comes to my mind, it like what we used to call the stomach flu, don't have the runs, but close to it, with tummy ache, body aches, feel like s***.... :witzend:
Frank, I hope you feel better soon. I have friends that were hit by this "virus" just as you are. It didn't just go away, either. They were laid up for nearly a week and then another week to shake off all the bad effects.
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Rick
I don't think Tony Margarito is going to make much of a comeback. If he was "normal" against Sugar Shane,then I don't see him having much of an impact in boxing except as a stepping stone for up and comers.
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Paul Palomino, brother of Carlos Palomino was also on the flight with Junior Roble and Byron Lindsay, all three will be inducted, posthumous, into the California Boxing Hall of Fame on June 26 2010.

2 streets named for coach, boxer

By David Berlin
February 21, 2008

NATIONAL CITY – After decades of red tape zoning loopholes and a little finesse two streets this week were named this week after for National City boxing coach Yrenio "Junior" Robles and boxer Byron Lindsay who died in a plane crash in Poland 28 years ago.

National City Councilman Luis Natividad and consultant Augie Baréño, longtime friends of Robles, spearheaded the effort.

“A street is forever,” Baréño said. “It's a symbol. Junior and Byron gave their all to the community and their legacy lives on forever.”

Robles and Lindsay were part of a U.S. amateur boxing team that was traveling to Poland for bouts with the Polish team. Their plane, with 87 people aboard, crashed on March 14, 1980, as it approached Warsaw's Okecie airport. All 87 people aboard, including the 14 boxers and eight officials of the U.S. team, were killed.

Tuesday, Robles' and Lindsay's families and friends, National City Mayor Ron Morrison and other city officials and dignitaries gathered at the new Pacific Scene Homes housing development near Rachael Avenue and Blueridge Street in National City to unveil the new signs.

“This is a blessing,” said Lindsay's mother, Venoria Lindsay, when the street signs reading Junior Robles Road and Byron Lindsay Way were revealed. The honor was long overdue, said Baréño, 60.

“Every time we had a new city councilman we brought up the idea,” he said. “We've probably had 10 of them in the last 30 years and each one would try and then get turned down.”

Almost everyone in attendance had a story about Robles and Lindsay.

“Everybody knew Junior,” said Natividad, 65. In addition to being a professional boxer, Robles founded or was involved in many athletic events in South County during the 1970s.

“The only running in the barrio used to be gangs running from police,” Natividad joked. “Then Robles founded the Barrio Run (which went across the San Diego-Coronado Bridge), and all of a sudden, people from all over San Diego were coming just to run in the race.”

Robles and Natividad founded a Sunday softball league in which gang members and police officers played each other. Robles frequently visited high school principals, rounding up troubled students to bring to boxing gyms, Baréño said.

“He used the gyms to get kids out of trouble and put their energy into more positive things,” Natividad said.

David Soliven, a district attorney investigator, was one of those youths.

“I was about 12 at the time and I could have gone either way, towards a gang or the good side. Junior introduced me to boxing and I got so into it and that was it,” Soliven said. “Junior used to make us breakfast and drive us to school. He was really like a second father.”

Lindsay might have been Robles' greatest protege, but Robles never told him how great he was going to be, Natividad said.

“He would only concentrate on the next fight,” he said.

“Lindsay was the real symbol for all the youth,” Baréño added. “Kids can still look at the success Lindsay had as a boxer and look up to that.”

A photo of Robles and Lindsay hangs prominently at the Community Youth Athletic Center on National City Boulevard, watching over a new generation of boxing students.

Baréño said Robles was the first person to convince high schools to open up their gyms to the community.

“Nobody would say no to him,” he said. “People responded to Junior. He had a way of capturing all the existing energy of the community back then.”

“Everyone knew who he was,” Natividad said. “So if you were acting up, you saw him and nobody would do anything if Junior was there.”

But Natividad said he hated to be around Robles when he was boxing.

“He was so focused he didn't pay any attention to me,” he said. “We went out and had all this fun, but when he started boxing he was so serious.”

The deaths of Robles and Lindsay were a tremendous loss for the community, Natividad said.

“I remember seeing it on TV and I sat down in the kitchen with my wife and we just cried. It was very tough,” he said. “Doing this will hopefully make things right.”
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53sCut6XxZE


One For My Baby

Sinatra
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I am pleasantly surprised that Bobby Pacho is going to be one of the inductees into the California Boxing Hall of Fame this year. Take a look at his record if you get a chance. When in his prime, Pacho had his share of wins and/or good performances against some fine fighters. Unfortunately, he stayed around too long and became an opponent, losing on a regular basis in the latter part of his career.

From what I gather, Pacho had at least a couple of children. Wonder if anyone is in contact with any of his relatives.

- Chuck Johnston
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ONE FOR MY BABY

If I had a nickel for all the broads that have passed through the ropes with all the fighters who laced on the gloves,I'd make Rockefeller look like a homeless guy standing on the corner with a sign. Maybe I ain't the expert ,but I'm sure if you asked the typical gal of conjuring up a fantasy of who she'd like to go a few rounds with,the champ or the President...well Monica Lewinsky might have been thinking she got sloppy seconds if she ever saw a fighter going toe to toe in the center of the ring.

I've seen women literally make all the clinches with fighters. There ain't a ref alive who could seperate them. In most cases the fighters never wanted the interference anyhow.

In the old days they said sex before a fight took away a fighters legs. With some of those boys sex took away more than their pins.Penicillin was the best medicine ever invented for those gloved combatants.

Redd Foxx had an old line if he didn't like you.
"I hope your daughter marries a jazz musician."
Well Redd could just have substituted "jazz musician" for "fighter."

Whether the pug had a "clean" image and behaved himself in front of the public like a Louis or a Marciano. Or had a chip on his shoulder like Ali or Pretty Boy,their testosterone driven libidos devoured their estrogen laden counterparts like sharks in a feeding frenzy.If those boys ate food like they ate below those gals' belt lines,they would have never made weight.

After it was over. After those boys couldn't raise a glove no more. After they threw in the sponge and put on their pants for the last time,they could consider themselves the luckiest ex pugs in the world if they still had the wives in their corners.

So like Sinatra sang it in that song.
"Set 'em up Joe.I got a story you should know..."
I know Frank.It's one for your baby.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7llu2aQRSQ

One For My Baby

Billie Holiday(this is for the fighters' wives)
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Wow you just hit me with my all time favorite female singer followed closely by Dinah Washington & my top song by both ladies "Drinking again" Singers like those two don't come around to often nowadays
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telboy66 wrote:Wow you just hit me with my all time favorite female singer followed closely by Dinah Washington & my top song by both ladies "Drinking again" Singers like those two don't come around to often nowadays
Here you are TBoy, "Drinking Again"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtJLZ2zL2Os

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Chuck1052 wrote:I am pleasantly surprised that Bobby Pacho is going to be one of the inductees into the California Boxing Hall of Fame this year. Take a look at his record if you get a chance. When in his prime, Pacho had his share of wins and/or good performances against some fine fighters. Unfortunately, he stayed around too long and became an opponent, losing on a regular basis in the latter part of his career.

From what I gather, Pacho had at least a couple of children. Wonder if anyone is in contact with any of his relatives.

- Chuck Johnston
Yes Chuck, I got a hold of Pacho's granddaughter in-law, Jill, she and her husband Robert Pacho live here in SoCal....
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Anna Sten; Actress Imported by Goldwyn

Tuesday November 16, 1993

By MYRNA OLIVER,
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Anna Sten, the exotic and beautiful Russian actress brought to Hollywood by Samuel Goldwyn as a second Garbo but eventually tagged "Goldwyn's folly," has died. She was believed to be 84.

Miss Sten, who had lived in Beverly Hills for many years after her acting career sputtered out, died Friday in her Manhattan home of cardiac arrest.

The American producer brought her to Hollywood in the early 1930s and waged an extensive publicity campaign, determined to create another Garbo or Dietrich aura around the sultry beauty.

In 1934, Miss Sten starred in Goldwyn's "Nana" and "We Live Again," and a year later in his "The Wedding Night" with Gary Cooper, Ralph Bellamy and Walter Brennan.

Critic Leonard Maltin, commenting in his 1993 Movie and Video Guide, assailed the first film as "producer Samuel Goldwyn's first attempt to make a new Garbo out of exotic but wooden Sten." He dismissed the last as "producer Samuel Goldwyn's third and final attempt to make Anna Sten a new Garbo."

American audiences never warmed up to Miss Sten. Faced with poor box office response, Goldwyn conceded that he had made one of the few mistakes in his career--a costly one that led to Miss Sten's sobriquet in the industry as Goldwyn's folly. He terminated her contract.

Historians have variously recorded the actress's date of birth as 1907, 1908 or 1910, but generally accept that she was born Dec. 3, 1908, in Kiev, Ukraine. Named Annel (Anjuschka) Stenskaja Sudakevich, she was the daughter of a Russian ballet master and a Swedish mother.

After working as a waitress, she began her acting career with the Moscow Art Theatre and made her screen debut in the 1927 Russian film "The Girl With the Hat Box." With a few more Russian films on her resume, she went to Germany where her work in "The Murderer Dimitri Karamazov" caught Goldwyn's attention.

After Goldwyn dumped her, Miss Sten went to England, where she made "A Woman Alone" and "Two Who Dared" in 1936. She returned to the United States and made a few more films, some for her second husband, independent producer Eugene Frenke.

Her work included "Exile Express" in 1939, "The Man I Married" in 1940, "So Ends Our Night" in 1941, "Chetniks" and "They Came to Blow Up America" in 1943, "Three Russian Girls" in 1944, "Let's Live a Little" in 1948, "Soldier of Fortune" in 1955, "Runaway Girls" in 1956 and "The Nun and the Sergeant" in 1962.

In 1960, Miss Sten appeared briefly on Broadway as Jenny in "The Threepenny Opera" and toured with the play.

But she devoted most of her later life to semiprofessional painting.

Widowed at her death, Miss Sten had been married to Russian film director Fedor Ozep before her marriage to Frenke.

Just a reminder on how this works: I post the mystery photo on Monday and reveal the answer on Friday ... or on Saturday if I have a hard time picking only five pictures; sometimes it's difficult to choose. To keep the mystery photo from getting lost in the other entries, I move it from Monday to Tuesday to Wednesday, etc., adding a photo every day.

I have to approve all comments, so if your guess is posted immediately, that means you're wrong. (And if a wrong guess has already been submitted by someone else, there's no point in submitting it again).

If you're right, you will have to wait until Friday. There's no need to submit your guess five times. Once is enough. The only reward is bragging rights.
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Thanks, Frank! I hope that Jill and Robert show up at the California Hall of Fame gathering this year.

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Chuck1052 wrote:Thanks, Frank! I hope that Jill and Robert show up at the California Hall of Fame gathering this year.

- Chuck Johnston
I think they will Chuck... :TU:
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dagosd2000 wrote:ONE FOR MY BABY

If I had a nickel for all the broads that have passed through the ropes with all the fighters who laced on the gloves,I'd make Rockefeller look like a homeless guy standing on the corner with a sign. Maybe I ain't the expert ,but I'm sure if you asked the typical gal of conjuring up a fantasy of who she'd like to go a few rounds with,the champ or the President...well Monica Lewinsky might have been thinking she got sloppy seconds if she ever saw a fighter going toe to toe in the center of the ring.

I've seen women literally make all the clinches with fighters. There ain't a ref alive who could seperate them. In most cases the fighters never wanted the interference anyhow.

In the old days they said sex before a fight took away a fighters legs. With some of those boys sex took away more than their pins.Penicillin was the best medicine ever invented for those gloved combatants.

Redd Foxx had an old line if he didn't like you.
"I hope your daughter marries a jazz musician."
Well Redd could just have substituted "jazz musician" for "fighter."

Whether the pug had a "clean" image and behaved himself in front of the public like a Louis or a Marciano. Or had a chip on his shoulder like Ali or Pretty Boy,their testosterone driven libidos devoured their estrogen laden counterparts like sharks in a feeding frenzy.If those boys ate food like they ate below those gals' belt lines,they would have never made weight.

After it was over. After those boys couldn't raise a glove no more. After they threw in the sponge and put on their pants for the last time,they could consider themselves the luckiest ex pugs in the world if they still had the wives in their corners.

So like Sinatra sang it in that song.
"Set 'em up Joe.I got a story you should know..."
I know Frank.It's one for your baby.
Rog, you call'em broads, Mel Epstein called'em f*cken b*tches but the idea was the same. Women can and have ruined a boxer's career. it's true, and as much as I hate to go against Mel's philosophy on the dames (he hated all of them), the truth is it's the wrong kind of woman that can ruin a fighters career. The right one can push you to succeed, ask Marvin Johnson he'll tell you.

Boxing is rife with stories about the wrong kind of woman but if you look closer at some fighters you'll find a certain weakness. With some it's women, with others it booze, drugs or gambling and still with others it's all of the above. The wrong kind of broad senses that and goes in for the kill, or is that too cynical?

Funny thing about Mel, Rick probably remembers this, Mel kept an old photo of his mother in his bedroom. The photo was probably around late 1890's or early 1900's. It was old. He spoke of her reverently as if she were a saint. No other woman ever measured up. The rest of them were f*cken b*tches.

"This is a man's world" by James Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_M2tp-ZHnM

Nice writing Rog!
Randy :bow:
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Glad to see that you're feeling better Frank! :TU:

I'm really looking forward to the CBHOF. :bag:

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Billie Holiday(Lady Day)
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I just broke a head cold. I never knew so much crap could come out of my head. :lol:
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