Two factors to take into account, as with any boxerrhino222 wrote:fair enough arnie, but its all about opinion mate. time will tell, but if he was a horse, then im not putting any money on him.Arnie wrote:Really hope vinny comes good and proves the doubters wrong! Still very early for people to write him off.
By you saying Vinny is a 'nothing fighter'....No fighter is a 'nothing' fighter, that is whats disrespectful. It takes more than 'nothing' to step foot in the ringrhino222 wrote:where is the rudeness and disrespect ? .. if i think someone is not so good, im allowed an opinion, if i think michael hunter is shot, ill dam well say so.Des1 wrote:Yes, it is very rare for a 'decent' fighter to disrespect another fighter in the manner you do. Have an opinion yes, everyone is entitled to that, but the rudeness and disrespect?rhino222 wrote: mmmm..let me see......
oh......there it is !! .....
And you wouldn't normally find that amoungest fellow fighters or genuine fans of the sport who have never stepped foot in the ring even.
yes he did,got koed in 1st round,cant remember the blokes name but he lost to jamie arthur last fightDes1 wrote:2x National schoolboy and NABC champion I believe. Didn't enter ABA's, after a break went pro I'm sure.
Ok, yes that must be when he basically a kid being 17 years old and he boxed a grown man. Was sure he took a break after that bout but wasn't so sure it was in the ABA's as thought 17 was to young, but yes you can enter the ABA's at 17 I know realise.Tommy Gunn13 wrote:yes he did,got koed in 1st round,cant remember the blokes name but he lost to jamie arthur last fightDes1 wrote:2x National schoolboy and NABC champion I believe. Didn't enter ABA's, after a break went pro I'm sure.
you are going round in circles mate, read back through my posts and it clearly states that i give any boxer who sets foot in the ring lots of kudos, or are you a selective reader?Des1 wrote:By you saying Vinny is a 'nothing fighter'....No fighter is a 'nothing' fighter, that is whats disrespectful. It takes more than 'nothing' to step foot in the ringrhino222 wrote:where is the rudeness and disrespect ? .. if i think someone is not so good, im allowed an opinion, if i think michael hunter is shot, ill dam well say so.Des1 wrote: Yes, it is very rare for a 'decent' fighter to disrespect another fighter in the manner you do. Have an opinion yes, everyone is entitled to that, but the rudeness and disrespect?
And you wouldn't normally find that amoungest fellow fighters or genuine fans of the sport who have never stepped foot in the ring even.
wel one suggests he uses some of this amatuer pedigree, as from what i have seen of him in the pro's he is too macho for his own good and loves a tear up too much. (Kev has also had that labelled at him to a lesser extent - it may come with some maturity).boxing12 wrote:it was 4 national titles he won in the amateurs..
good sensible post jay, but no sign of vinny changing as yet, and he should have adapted since tasting the canvas in his ? second fight.J wrote:wel one suggests he uses some of this amatuer pedigree, as from what i have seen of him in the pro's he is too macho for his own good and loves a tear up too much. (Kev has also had that labelled at him to a lesser extent - it may come with some maturity).boxing12 wrote:it was 4 national titles he won in the amateurs..
blocking punches with your face to get one off yourself isnt always the idea.
If he has this talent then he should re-invent himself a little as i truly believe his present face first style will get him no where.
no disprespect intended. Good luck to the lad.
No, not a selective reader but you appear to have a selective mind and not able to make your mind up. One moment you have 'nothing fighters' then the next they all have your 'respect'? Maybe its a selective memory you have.rhino222 wrote:you are going round in circles mate, read back through my posts and it clearly states that i give any boxer who sets foot in the ring lots of kudos, or are you a selective reader?Des1 wrote:By you saying Vinny is a 'nothing fighter'....No fighter is a 'nothing' fighter, that is whats disrespectful. It takes more than 'nothing' to step foot in the ringrhino222 wrote: where is the rudeness and disrespect ? .. if i think someone is not so good, im allowed an opinion, if i think michael hunter is shot, ill dam well say so.
I know what he means and once again he doesnt earn more than his fellow fighters, vinny boxed at a dinner show a few months ago so what ever you are trying to say or think im telling you from the horses mouth mate, why does everyone assume all these things just because his brother is doing well in the paid ranks, you all probably assume kevin is earning mega money to, and RHINNO everyone is entitled to his opinions but i think the other lot are trying to say a boxer who steps in the ring should not be labelled has NOTHING people like you are NOTHING mate and thats putting it mild, you'd think a man your age and you say has stepped in the ring would know better than to slate boxers, but im guessing has i said before you were no good at boxing and are envious of these kids, how you can claim to have the bug for boxing is beyond beliefrhino222 wrote:thank you..a common sense reply.mickey1975 wrote:I think he means his earnings compared to boxers in a similar position.Vinny will be on a lot more than if he was boxing on a non-televised small hall show,and miles more than on a dinner show
Wasnt the dinner show your referring to Fwank's annual charity bash? You may have heard from the horses mouth what Vinny earns,but have you asked another boxer doing 4x3's or 6x2's off t.v what they get?you may be suprised.handles wrote:I know what he means and once again he doesnt earn more than his fellow fighters, vinny boxed at a dinner show a few months ago so what ever you are trying to say or think im telling you from the horses mouth mate, why does everyone assume all these things just because his brother is doing well in the paid ranks, you all probably assume kevin is earning mega money to, and RHINNO everyone is entitled to his opinions but i think the other lot are trying to say a boxer who steps in the ring should not be labelled has NOTHING people like you are NOTHING mate and thats putting it mild, you'd think a man your age and you say has stepped in the ring would know better than to slate boxers, but im guessing has i said before you were no good at boxing and are envious of these kids, how you can claim to have the bug for boxing is beyond beliefrhino222 wrote:thank you..a common sense reply.mickey1975 wrote:I think he means his earnings compared to boxers in a similar position.Vinny will be on a lot more than if he was boxing on a non-televised small hall show,and miles more than on a dinner show
yesmickey1975 wrote:Wasnt the dinner show your referring to Fwank's annual charity bash? You may have heard from the horses mouth what Vinny earns,but have you asked another boxer doing 4x3's or 6x2's off t.v what they get?you may be suprised.handles wrote:I know what he means and once again he doesnt earn more than his fellow fighters, vinny boxed at a dinner show a few months ago so what ever you are trying to say or think im telling you from the horses mouth mate, why does everyone assume all these things just because his brother is doing well in the paid ranks, you all probably assume kevin is earning mega money to, and RHINNO everyone is entitled to his opinions but i think the other lot are trying to say a boxer who steps in the ring should not be labelled has NOTHING people like you are NOTHING mate and thats putting it mild, you'd think a man your age and you say has stepped in the ring would know better than to slate boxers, but im guessing has i said before you were no good at boxing and are envious of these kids, how you can claim to have the bug for boxing is beyond beliefrhino222 wrote: thank you..a common sense reply.
and yesmickey1975 wrote:Wasnt the dinner show your referring to Fwank's annual charity bash? You may have heard from the horses mouth what Vinny earns,but have you asked another boxer doing 4x3's or 6x2's off t.v what they get?you may be suprised.handles wrote:I know what he means and once again he doesnt earn more than his fellow fighters, vinny boxed at a dinner show a few months ago so what ever you are trying to say or think im telling you from the horses mouth mate, why does everyone assume all these things just because his brother is doing well in the paid ranks, you all probably assume kevin is earning mega money to, and RHINNO everyone is entitled to his opinions but i think the other lot are trying to say a boxer who steps in the ring should not be labelled has NOTHING people like you are NOTHING mate and thats putting it mild, you'd think a man your age and you say has stepped in the ring would know better than to slate boxers, but im guessing has i said before you were no good at boxing and are envious of these kids, how you can claim to have the bug for boxing is beyond beliefrhino222 wrote: thank you..a common sense reply.
He cant help it if his brother is kevin and a good boxer, so that mean all other boxing brothers will get labelled the same by the likes of people like you mate, vinny has you know had previously beaten baguely and will again, he has been ill and should have been pulled out of the fight but had a break from work to concentrate on training, hence he boxed because he needed the money, im sure its happened to other boxers out there, so stop jumping to conclusions and writing of boxers when they loose a fight, take a look at some world champs records that might educate you in the sport a bit morewhicker wrote:How did he do as an amateur?
No issue, and no implication intended, but is there anything on his amateur record that's notable?
I honestly mean this with no disrespect, but as a pro it does seem to be the case that his most notable claim to fame is being Kevin's brother.
Vinny must be getting seriously underpaid compared to Fwanks other lads or you have spoken to Britains best paid small hall boxer.By the way,are you related to Vinny?handles wrote:He cant help it if his brother is kevin and a good boxer, so that mean all other boxing brothers will get labelled the same by the likes of people like you mate, vinny has you know had previously beaten baguely and will again, he has been ill and should have been pulled out of the fight but had a break from work to concentrate on training, hence he boxed because he needed the money, im sure its happened to other boxers out there, so stop jumping to conclusions and writing of boxers when they loose a fight, take a look at some world champs records that might educate you in the sport a bit morewhicker wrote:How did he do as an amateur?
No issue, and no implication intended, but is there anything on his amateur record that's notable?
I honestly mean this with no disrespect, but as a pro it does seem to be the case that his most notable claim to fame is being Kevin's brother.
certainly sounds like it, there is that much ar5e licking going on in this thread its beyond belief. never before posted on a boxing forum on which it is forbidden to have an opinion, so let me spell it out...mickey1975 wrote:Vinny must be getting seriously underpaid compared to Fwanks other lads or you have spoken to Britains best paid small hall boxer.By the way,are you related to Vinny?handles wrote:He cant help it if his brother is kevin and a good boxer, so that mean all other boxing brothers will get labelled the same by the likes of people like you mate, vinny has you know had previously beaten baguely and will again, he has been ill and should have been pulled out of the fight but had a break from work to concentrate on training, hence he boxed because he needed the money, im sure its happened to other boxers out there, so stop jumping to conclusions and writing of boxers when they loose a fight, take a look at some world champs records that might educate you in the sport a bit morewhicker wrote:How did he do as an amateur?
No issue, and no implication intended, but is there anything on his amateur record that's notable?
I honestly mean this with no disrespect, but as a pro it does seem to be the case that his most notable claim to fame is being Kevin's brother.
agreed.rhino222 wrote:certainly sounds like it, there is that much ar5e licking going on in this thread its beyond belief. never before posted on a boxing forum on which it is forbidden to have an opinion, so let me spell it out...mickey1975 wrote:Vinny must be getting seriously underpaid compared to Fwanks other lads or you have spoken to Britains best paid small hall boxer.By the way,are you related to Vinny?handles wrote:He cant help it if his brother is kevin and a good boxer, so that mean all other boxing brothers will get labelled the same by the likes of people like you mate, vinny has you know had previously beaten baguely and will again, he has been ill and should have been pulled out of the fight but had a break from work to concentrate on training, hence he boxed because he needed the money, im sure its happened to other boxers out there, so stop jumping to conclusions and writing of boxers when they loose a fight, take a look at some world champs records that might educate you in the sport a bit more
i called vinny mitchell a nothing boxer, because he has done nothing in the paid ranks, and id bet my house that he ends up doing nothing in the paid ranks.
he defends punches with his head, and is, in my opinion, chinny!!
I think your getting me mixed up with someone else!Re-read it mate,i have never even commented on Vinny's ability.Des1 wrote:Micky 1975 - No fighter is a nothing fighter, you either have never stepped foot in the ring or if you have you wasn't much good. That can only explain the dispespect you have by using that to discribe a fighter. Nobody is 'nothing' who steps in that ring.
A very interesting paradox exists on this forum which I don't think exists anywhere else in British sport - an internet forum that encompasses fans, boxers, promoters and trainers - you would think this would be an enviable arrangement - I am sure there are loads of football forums that would love Tom Huddlestone and Robbie Savage and say 'Arry Redknapp posting regulary.Spud wrote:It seems to a problem for the Forum's personalities who frequent this fine place!!
If we say a fighter is a world beater and is going to go far - there is never a problem.
The moment an opinion is given that a fighter could be "domestic class" and will only ever fight for domestic titles - dummies are spat out and ego's come to the fore in the stampede to see who can be nicest to the poor unfortunate boxer. Look at Paul Smith - that thread has only got to be re-read again to see I stated nothing insulting other than to argue he was in my view nothing more than a domestic class boxer who has done tremendously well in winning the Lonsdale Belt - a tremendous achievement and I simply cannot understand anyone who states or hints he is remotely world class.
Vinny Mitchell - is a domestic class boxer who is going no further - I cannot see him fighting even for a british title - with that said he is like any boxer - a brave warrior who has the balls to step through the ropes and showcase his skills to the best of his ability - he is not going any further than Area titles.
That what gets said on here would upset Paul Smith (who I rate as a decent fighter by the way - he probably isn't 'world' class but he is more than capable of winning the European title and going on to fight for the world title) to that extent where he calls out Spud on getting knocked out by Paul King in Las Vegas.