Green calls out Mundine

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

houndawg....heel,leave the little pommy alone

Unfortuneatley - your friend is too goddamn stupid and knows next to fornicate all about boxing for any of his arguments about boxing or the universe to stand up - I look forward to seeing his reponses - and then tearing him a new one!

[Hounddawg]

Did i hit a nerve there Charles?

Now, now, dont go making up stories to protect the fact that you were schooled at school
Just qouting what i read from your own lips, you don't want to get all tough with a keyboard Chuck!

Hey buddy do us a favour fornicate off hey, you come here to only talk shitt, you rub everyone up the wrong way, your ponds away so no one can be fucked to travel that far to give you what you need!

For such an educated man you certainly lack the understanding of where your wanted.

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

Did i hit a nerve there Charles?

Now, now, dont go making up stories to protect the fact that you were schooled at school
Just qouting what i read from your own lips, you don't want to get all tough with a keyboard Chuck!

Hey buddy do us a favour fornicate off hey, you come here to only talk shitt, you rub everyone up the wrong way, your ponds away so no one can be fucked to travel that far to give you what you need!

For such an educated man you certainly lack the understanding of where your wanted.

It's true Why on earth would I lie? No big deal - nothing to brag about as it halted my educational progress in a big way - it would be to you because you sound like the kind of guy who hasn't been anywhere and done anything and you still have the same friends from school so all you talk about who was the hardest in the playground!

The remedy to that is to leave your comfort zone and go and live somewhere interesting, do interesting things, meet new people and then you can become interesting! It takes something like balls, so you'll stay put in your one horse town and place importance about stuff that went on at school like the boring twat that you are.

I thought you were going to talk about Roy Jones being one of the top three fighters to come to Australia - for some reason you left out Joe Frazier, Emile Griffith and Sam Langford - I was going to have fun with that!

Hounddawg: 'Yeh mateeeeeee, Sam Langford never won a world title, der bum'

Listen, do yourself a favour and leave the boxing talk to people who know something about it - that aint you - sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

As for you giving me what I need and me being too far away - now whose talking tough behind a computer? You aint capable - give it another 5 years learning to box - you may stand a chance.

[Hounddawg]

Lets just fight...I don't like you, you don't like me. You think the early 1900's matter, i think fighters today are superior in all facets.
You think it's important to know about particular fighters that i don't, I personally think knowing who a journyman in 1908 is not a cause to go and start questioning a persons knowledge of a sport. At first i thought you were around my age, but now i Think your just some grumpy old bastard still carrying on about how Daddy once saw the first True Heavyweight back in 1922 ect, when fighters were True and how todays modern fighter couldn't mix it.
I notice you poms pull that one out when ever your backed into corner, can i ask you what makes you so knowledgeable and how your refernce to the British Forum is some how inferred by you like it's the bible,ie "You would be laughed out of the British forum about that".
Mate educate me, you keep saying your the messiah, tell me what the fornicate do you know.

You know not to really get into it because it's just one mans opinion against anothers do you really think some of those fighters that you mentioned are better than RJJ...I mean really.Frazier is an exception. Don't respond because quite simply i just don't give a fornicate!!!!

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

Lets just fight...I don't like you, you don't like me. You think the early 1900's matter, i think fighters today are superior in all facets.
You think it's important to know about particular fighters that i don't, I personally think knowing who a journyman in 1908 is not a cause to go and start questioning a persons knowledge of a sport. At first i thought you were around my age, but now i Think your just some grumpy old bastard still carrying on about how Daddy once saw the first True Heavyweight back in 1922 ect, when fighters were True and how todays modern fighter couldn't mix it.
I notice you poms pull that one out when ever your backed into corner, can i ask you what makes you so knowledgeable and how your refernce to the British Forum is some how inferred by you like it's the bible,ie "You would be laughed out of the British forum about that".
Mate educate me, you keep saying your the messiah, tell me what the eff do you know.

You know not to really get into it because it's just one mans opinion against anothers do you really think some of those fighters that you mentioned are better than RJJ...I mean really.Frazier is an exception. Don't respond because quite simply i just don't give a eff!!!!

Don't respond because you don't give a fornicate - even though you have asked my opinion? Which you are going to get!

I don't like you? I don't know you from Adam no more than you know me! I am sure - if we met and we didn't know each other from boxrec we would get on fine - why wouldn't we? You have been belligerent on these forums and you don't like my posting style and I don't like your posting style - do you catch me whinging when you lot give me shit on here? You just get it back! Which I thought was the Aussie way but it obviously isn't - a lot of you seem to make out I am 'Anti-Australian' when in fact I am very pro-Australian boxing, actually I love Australian boxing - even the boxing in Australia today. I actually made a succession of posts about how disgraceful the commonwealth council are in ignoring Australian fighters for Commonwealth title bouts - Tony Bellew is going to fight some unknown Ghanian when Tim Bell could have been matched with him for the vacant light heavyweight title and it would have been a damn good match up.

You are comparing boxing to other sports like the 100 meters or javelin throwing where todays athelte playing their sport is superior - you would have to say that Usain Bolt is superior to Jesse Owens and new records are always being broken - however boxing is a lot different from the 100 meters for example - fighters fight less now, fighters fight less rounds now and there are less fighters plying their trade so it is less competitive- though heavyweights have gotten bigger, the weight divisions have stayed the same so superior size, strength and conditioning count for naught once you rid yourself of the heavyweight divison. If you look at fighters height and weight in the light heavyweight division to flyweight - its has not changed for nearly a 100 years. A light heavyweight today is the same height and build as one back in 1944.

It could be said that fighters of yesteryear were more tougher, more durable and had more stamina because they fought more rounds, the top men had superior skillsets because to get to the top you had to fight a lot of people to get there and stay there. Archie Moore had nearly 200 fights and his career went on for nearly 30 years - would Roy Jones beat Archie Moore at 175lbs? Despite that they campaigned 50 years apart? And these guys won titles when there was only world champion. It was a lot harder to become world champion and was seen as a pinnacle of sporting success.

As for Langford, according to every boxing historian worth their salt - one of the greatest fighters who never won the world title because of his race - he should have been a three weight world champion but never got the chance! one of the hardest hitters ever - a middleweight who knocked out heavyweights and who lived in Australia for two years. Probably the greatest fighter ever to come to Australia.

As for this forum - I like this forum or else I wouldn't come on here but you obviously don't like Brits coming on here and talking Australian boxing because Oliver Fennell gets the same stick as I do! I don't know why! No-one slags off your boxers more than you lot but we get the 'Anti-Aussie' tag and its a joke!

[Hounddawg]

Lets just fight...I don't like you, you don't like me. You think the early 1900's matter, i think fighters today are superior in all facets.
You think it's important to know about particular fighters that i don't, I personally think knowing who a journyman in 1908 is not a cause to go and start questioning a persons knowledge of a sport. At first i thought you were around my age, but now i Think your just some grumpy old bastard still carrying on about how Daddy once saw the first True Heavyweight back in 1922 ect, when fighters were True and how todays modern fighter couldn't mix it.
I notice you poms pull that one out when ever your backed into corner, can i ask you what makes you so knowledgeable and how your refernce to the British Forum is some how inferred by you like it's the bible,ie "You would be laughed out of the British forum about that".
Mate educate me, you keep saying your the messiah, tell me what the eff do you know.

You know not to really get into it because it's just one mans opinion against anothers do you really think some of those fighters that you mentioned are better than RJJ...I mean really.Frazier is an exception. Don't respond because quite simply i just don't give a eff!!!!

Don't respond because you don't give a eff - even though you have asked my opinion? Which you are going to get!

I don't like you? I don't know you from Adam no more than you know me! I am sure - if we met and we didn't know each other from boxrec we would get on fine - why wouldn't we? You have been belligerent on these forums and you don't like my posting style and I don't like your posting style - do you catch me whinging when you lot give me poop on here? You just get it back! Which I thought was the Aussie way but it obviously isn't - a lot of you seem to make out I am 'Anti-Australian' when in fact I am very pro-Australian boxing, actually I love Australian boxing - even the boxing in Australia today. I actually made a succession of posts about how disgraceful the commonwealth council are in ignoring Australian fighters for Commonwealth title bouts - Tony Bellew is going to fight some unknown Ghanian when Tim Bell could have been matched with him for the vacant light heavyweight title and it would have been a damn good match up.

You are comparing boxing to other sports like the 100 meters or javelin throwing where todays athelte playing their sport is superior - you would have to say that Usain Bolt is superior to Jesse Owens and new records are always being broken - however boxing is a lot different from the 100 meters for example - fighters fight less now, fighters fight less rounds now and there are less fighters plying their trade so it is less competitive- though heavyweights have gotten bigger, the weight divisions have stayed the same so superior size, strength and conditioning count for naught once you rid yourself of the heavyweight divison. If you look at fighters height and weight in the light heavyweight division to flyweight - its has not changed for nearly a 100 years. A light heavyweight today is the same height and build as one back in 1944.

It could be said that fighters of yesteryear were more tougher, more durable and had more stamina because they fought more rounds, the top men had superior skillsets because to get to the top you had to fight a lot of people to get there and stay there. Archie Moore had nearly 200 fights and his career went on for nearly 30 years - would Roy Jones beat Archie Moore at 175lbs? Despite that they campaigned 50 years apart? And these guys won titles when there was only world champion. It was a lot harder to become world champion and was seen as a pinnacle of sporting success.

As for Langford, according to every boxing historian worth their salt - one of the greatest fighters who never won the world title because of his race - he should have been a three weight world champion but never got the chance! one of the hardest hitters ever - a middleweight who knocked out heavyweights and who lived in Australia for two years. Probably the greatest fighter ever to come to Australia.

As for this forum - I like this forum or else I wouldn't come on here but you obviously don't like Brits coming on here and talking Australian boxing because Oliver Fennell gets the same stick as I do! I don't know why! No-one slags off your boxers more than you lot but we get the 'Anti-Aussie' tag and its a joke!

I can see your point but mostly disagree, call me stupid, know nothing what ever, it's the science that is applied today that gives modern boxers the edge.
The stamina is no issue, fighters of yesteryear have the superior stamina.
it can easily be attested to the fact that yesteryears heavy weights would struggle with fighters from Post world war 2, the size is too much.
Being 5'7 and Heavyweight would be suicidal, a 5'7 light Heavy would even struggle.

Mate Oliver contributes at least.

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

Lets just fight...I don't like you, you don't like me. You think the early 1900's matter, i think fighters today are superior in all facets.
You think it's important to know about particular fighters that i don't, I personally think knowing who a journyman in 1908 is not a cause to go and start questioning a persons knowledge of a sport. At first i thought you were around my age, but now i Think your just some grumpy old bastard still carrying on about how Daddy once saw the first True Heavyweight back in 1922 ect, when fighters were True and how todays modern fighter couldn't mix it.
I notice you poms pull that one out when ever your backed into corner, can i ask you what makes you so knowledgeable and how your refernce to the British Forum is some how inferred by you like it's the bible,ie "You would be laughed out of the British forum about that".
Mate educate me, you keep saying your the messiah, tell me what the eff do you know.

You know not to really get into it because it's just one mans opinion against anothers do you really think some of those fighters that you mentioned are better than RJJ...I mean really.Frazier is an exception. Don't respond because quite simply i just don't give a eff!!!!

Don't respond because you don't give a eff - even though you have asked my opinion? Which you are going to get!

I don't like you? I don't know you from Adam no more than you know me! I am sure - if we met and we didn't know each other from boxrec we would get on fine - why wouldn't we? You have been belligerent on these forums and you don't like my posting style and I don't like your posting style - do you catch me whinging when you lot give me poop on here? You just get it back! Which I thought was the Aussie way but it obviously isn't - a lot of you seem to make out I am 'Anti-Australian' when in fact I am very pro-Australian boxing, actually I love Australian boxing - even the boxing in Australia today. I actually made a succession of posts about how disgraceful the commonwealth council are in ignoring Australian fighters for Commonwealth title bouts - Tony Bellew is going to fight some unknown Ghanian when Tim Bell could have been matched with him for the vacant light heavyweight title and it would have been a damn good match up.

You are comparing boxing to other sports like the 100 meters or javelin throwing where todays athelte playing their sport is superior - you would have to say that Usain Bolt is superior to Jesse Owens and new records are always being broken - however boxing is a lot different from the 100 meters for example - fighters fight less now, fighters fight less rounds now and there are less fighters plying their trade so it is less competitive- though heavyweights have gotten bigger, the weight divisions have stayed the same so superior size, strength and conditioning count for naught once you rid yourself of the heavyweight divison. If you look at fighters height and weight in the light heavyweight division to flyweight - its has not changed for nearly a 100 years. A light heavyweight today is the same height and build as one back in 1944.

It could be said that fighters of yesteryear were more tougher, more durable and had more stamina because they fought more rounds, the top men had superior skillsets because to get to the top you had to fight a lot of people to get there and stay there. Archie Moore had nearly 200 fights and his career went on for nearly 30 years - would Roy Jones beat Archie Moore at 175lbs? Despite that they campaigned 50 years apart? And these guys won titles when there was only world champion. It was a lot harder to become world champion and was seen as a pinnacle of sporting success.

As for Langford, according to every boxing historian worth their salt - one of the greatest fighters who never won the world title because of his race - he should have been a three weight world champion but never got the chance! one of the hardest hitters ever - a middleweight who knocked out heavyweights and who lived in Australia for two years. Probably the greatest fighter ever to come to Australia.

As for this forum - I like this forum or else I wouldn't come on here but you obviously don't like Brits coming on here and talking Australian boxing because Oliver Fennell gets the same stick as I do! I don't know why! No-one slags off your boxers more than you lot but we get the 'Anti-Aussie' tag and its a joke!

I can see your point but mostly disagree, call me stupid, know nothing what ever, it's the science that is applied today that gives modern boxers the edge.
The stamina is no issue, fighters of yesteryear have the superior stamina.
it can easily be attested to the fact that yesteryears heavy weights would struggle with fighters from Post world war 2, the size is too much.
Being 5'7 and Heavyweight would be suicidal, a 5'7 light Heavy would even struggle.

Mate Oliver contributes at least.

There might be more knowledge regarding nutrition and training but also actual skillsets are disappearing - when was it the last time you saw really good body punching? The art of body punching has disppeared as has the double and triple left jab! This can be blamed on the amateur system that has castrated the sport from the grassroots - I don't know about that though - I just don't think that there is that intense level of competition these days to get to the top - A lot of champions had near enough 100 fights before they got their title shot - they could do it all, box, fight inside, distance themselves for a 15 round fight - nowadays - a fighter can get a world title shot in 20 fights - the skillset between the champions today and back then are nowhere near the same because level of competiton is nowhere near the same.

I agree with the heavyweights - because there isn't a weight limit on the heavyweight division - most heavyweights today would be successful against heavyweights from the past due to size and strength levels - In my opinion - Vitali Klitsckho would have murdered Joe Louis! But the size difference between someone like Joey Maxim and say Chad Dawson - no difference in size or weight and there is no evidence that todays fighters are faster in footspeed or handspeed but there is plenty of evidence yesteryears fighters have more stamina and durability.

[Crease]

Vitali Klitsckho would have murdered Joe Louis!

[Brute]

Vitali Klitsckho would have murdered Joe Louis!

Do you think Louis would have lost to Chris Byrd?

[Marlin]

wat he played football at has nothing to do with it

Yes it does, it shows that he is not some tiny little midget who has no place at anything over 73kgs like he wants people to believe. He was a fit and trim althete at 86kgs so fighting at 79kgs is not some massive disadvantage that he has no chance to overcome.

[Brute]

I haven't checked the British forum in a while, I'm very lazy, so what continent do red heads occupy again Carlos?

I think you'll find the comment I made is which continent do red heads originate from and you'll find the answer is Europe! I know you think white people are indigenous to Australia because you are a bit stupid but you'll find that you and every other white person travelled out on a boat or a plane from Europe* sometime in the last 300 years or so.

I must admit Hounddawg - you are the poster I thought who would have said something daft like 'Roy Jones Jr was the greatest ever fighter to visit Australia' it is the kind of dumb statement backed up with very little boxing knowledge that you always make - do you know who Tom Heeney is now?

* And the white people who come into Australia from Canada, The US, Argentina etc - yup - they are all indigenous to Europe too!

I have known red haired aboriginals. Very few are full blood. I knew a grandson of one of the Sands brothers who had blond hair and freckles. If it comes to that Anthony Mundine's mother Lynne is a blond.

[bigred83]

I have known red haired aboriginals. Very few are full blood. I knew a grandson of one of the Sands brothers who had blond hair and freckles. If it comes to that Anthony Mundine's mother Lynne is a blond.

i see you watched the all stars nrl game the other night brute. there was a full ginger kid in that one, lol. classic

[AntonS]

Given most comments are OFF topic, I decided to lock the thread
Have a nice day!!