Primo Carnera Appreciation Thread

[HomicideHenry]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYuiD63dQ4I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRvWhTdHMkk

Primo Carnera vs Ray Impelletiere, the battle of the giants, Carnera flattens his much taller opponent; it was hoped the winner would challenge Max Baer, who defeated Carnera. At the time Carnera was on a four fight win streak.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Well done

[Collins2000]

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What date this month is your fight, HH?

[HomicideHenry]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3ILA2mEjN8


Carnera vs a boxing Kangaroo; however I think the exhibition was cut short on film because at the end it looked like the kangaroo went to kick Carnera right square in the nuts!

[HomicideHenry]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZi5O-lyu8w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9H7cybLd18

Primo Carnera vs Jim Londos (1950), in a wrestling match, Max Baer is special guest referee. I cant help but think Carnera was happier as a wrestler than as a boxer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQUBKSy8B3U

Primo Carnera vs Antonio 'Argentina' Rocca (1952). Mind you, Rocca was the man who ended Carnera's undefeated streak in professional wrestling. This match, however, ended in a draw.

[HomicideHenry]

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What date this month is your fight, HH?

I was to fight an amateur standout named Michael Finney, who had 80 amateur bouts, in Augusta, Georgia in a four rounder. It was to happen on the 19th, then it got pushed to the 27th, and then it got cancelled or so I was told. I hate it cus I woulda got paid $1,200 and Finney didn't look that great on film I think I coulda went all four rounds with him.

However, now I'm talking with infamous tomato can Andrew Hartley, to set a match up somewhere, so I can go ahead and make my debut against him. At 2-16, I dont see him posing any problems what so ever. When that will be I have no clue.

[Goodnight, Irene]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3ILA2mEjN8


Carnera vs a boxing Kangaroo; however I think the exhibition was cut short on film because at the end it looked like the kangaroo went to kick Carnera right square in the nuts!

I wonder if the observers realised kangaroo attacks can & have been fatal. The toe-claws have eviscerated humans & dogs in past assaults.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

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What date this month is your fight, HH?

I was to fight an amateur standout named Michael Finney, who had 80 amateur bouts, in Augusta, Georgia in a four rounder. It was to happen on the 19th, then it got pushed to the 27th, and then it got cancelled or so I was told. I hate it cus I woulda got paid $1,200 and Finney didn't look that great on film I think I coulda went all four rounds with him.

However, now I'm talking with infamous tomato can Andrew Hartley, to set a match up somewhere, so I can go ahead and make my debut against him. At 2-16, I dont see him posing any problems what so ever. When that will be I have no clue.

LOL at $1,200, you might want to drop that down if you want people to believe you.

[HomicideHenry]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3ILA2mEjN8


Carnera vs a boxing Kangaroo; however I think the exhibition was cut short on film because at the end it looked like the kangaroo went to kick Carnera right square in the nuts!

I wonder if the observers realised kangaroo attacks can & have been fatal. The toe-claws have eviscerated humans & dogs in past assaults.

The kangaroo was wearing gloves on its paws.

[Goodnight, Irene]

It's the feet which are fatal, Henry.

[Goodnight, Irene]

I just watched the, "Biodiversity Kicks Back" associated link at the end of the Carnera play

[Brutu]

Young Primo


(a really young Carnera, probably from early 1928?)

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=74876


(October 1929)

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=72565


(see how limber the Man Mountain was here in 1931)

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=4673

[slakka]

ray arcel praised preemos improvement in balance at some point.

[Brutu]

The first time I became aware of Primo Carnera was when they re-released HERCULES/HERCULES UNCHAINED
back in 1973.

Here is a 53 year old Primo as Anteo,the giant tacking Steve Reeves in the 1959 movie HERCULES UNCHAINED.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1NrawgCFVc

[Adamj1987]

cheers HH i didnt have his fights from the 50's

[Brutu]

Check out the Preem-meister in one of his finest screen acting roles.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfROQZVF1gs

[Brutu]

Here is Primo Carnera in one of his best movies.
The original 1949 RKO classic MIGHTY JOE YOUNG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiNJTi7nJ1g

[jaclem2]

...the kangaroo tanked it....

[bollox]

I appreciate the fact that Primo always seemed like an affable fellow. He had a big smile on his face in most pictures

[Brutu]

rare footage(looks like it was secetretly filmed) of
Primo Carnera vs George Godfrey,
June.23.1930.Philadelphia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzeY4udtFQg

[Brutu]

Here is a link to some highlights of the Carnera vs Larry Gains bout in London England May 1932.
The match makers had made some custom made gloves for Carnera.
Look at the size of the gloves that they gave Carnera to use,they look like those huge styrofoam hands that people use to wave at football games,were' number One!
They look so thick that Carnera cant even seem to make a proper fist in them.
while Gains gloves look to be 8 oz.
the ref gave Gains the decision.No doubt influenced by the sound of soccer hoodlums in the crowd of 71,000 at White City stadium.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO0cndcdeY0

[Alex]

the ref gave Gains the decision.No doubt influenced by the sound of soccer hoodlums in the crowd of 71,000 at White City stadium.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO0cndcdeY0

Thanks for the clip. However, Gains was a far superior boxer to Carnera and fully deserved the decision (despite conceding 68 lb to his opponent):

"A crowd of 70,000, setting a new all-time British record for boxing attendance, saw the Canadian outbox Primo all the way to win Referee Hart's decision at the finish." - New York Times

In his autobiography Gains states that the show's promoter Jeff Dickson tried to get him to 'throw' the fight, but Gains wasn't interested.

I'm not sure what you mean with the reference to 'soccer hoodlums' influencing the ref. Boxing was hugely popular in Britain in the 1930s and didn't need to borrow fans from others sports for large events. And in any case Gains was Canadian not British!

There's some good footage of Gains training for and beating Britain's Phil Scott here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn5rt4_hI0E

[Brutu]

Larry Gains a superior boxer to Primo Carnera?
That's debatable.
Not from what I have seen of the existing fight footage of the two.
Carnera appeared to have a better repertoire of punches and combintions,
as well as defensive moves.Also Carnera appeared to be more mobile in the ring.

[Brutu]

Check out a 49 year old Primo Carnera(as the villianous wrestler Python Macklin ) in the 1955 movie A KID FOR TWO FARTHINGS.

part 7..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D__QkP5YAnc

part 8.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfwbGjkAMis

[Alex]

Larry Gains a superior boxer to Primo Carnera?
That's debatable.
Not from what I have seen of the existing fight footage of the two.
Carnera appeared to have a better repertoire of punches and combintions,
as well as defensive moves.Also Carnera appeared to be more mobile in the ring.

It is, but you couldn't debate it for long: Gains was a decent boxer with fast hands and feet for a heavyweight and a good jab, whereas - let's face it - the 'Ambling Alp' was never noted for his slick boxing ability. I don't know how you can discern this better repertoire of punches and combinations, or what kind of defensive moves the muscle-bound Carnera had. He looks pretty plodding and one-dimensional in all the footage I've seen of him, though admittedly he was a better fighter than he was given credit for being.

I'm inclined to trust the judgement of the newspapermen who watched all 10 rounds of the Carnera-Gains fight ahead of the analysis of some grainy, fragmented two-minute clip that's supposed to represent 30 minutes of action. And in any case, all I can see from the footage is the big man repeatedly missing and getting hit a lot by the smaller Canadian. I think Gains deserves a lot of credit for overcoming a five-stone weight disadvantage – he’d probably only be a cruiserweight today!