was sugar ray robinson the best fighter of all time.

wouter · Post by **wouter** » 25 Jul 2002, 07:04

Sugar Ray Robinson has gotten greater an greater the longer he's retired .....
I'm not saying Robinson isn't a great fighter, but in his time he wasn't seen as the greatest ever. Just like Ali in his time wasn't viewed as the greatest heavyweight of all time, except in his own mind that is. I've got a book at home, printed just before Muhammad Ali was banned, where the overall consensus is that he's a good fighter and he should be rated with the likes of Jersey Joe Walcott and Max Baer. And remember, though the seventies brought him superstardom, Ali is supposed to have been at his best in the sixties.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 25 Jul 2002, 13:56

JohnShep wrote:No, the greatest of all time was Jimmy Wilde

AHahahhaha i just looked him up 95% of his opponents were 0-0-0

saad · Post by **saad** » 25 Jul 2002, 19:54

I don't know Wouter. I agree with you on Ali but I think Robinson was considered to be the best fighter alive when he was in his prime. I've heard other guys who were fighting at the time talk about him as if they were in awe. This is true of other guys too but Robinson was highly regarded. Besides, you usually wait until a guy is done before sizing him up against all others. Remember all those guys who proclaimed Tyson to be the best heavyweight ever in 1987-88.

Hookie · Post by **Hookie** » 26 Jul 2002, 04:02

He's one of if not the very best ever. My top 3 list includes(in no order)-

R. Robinson, H. Armstrong, and E. Charles

wouter · Post by **wouter** » 26 Jul 2002, 07:34

About Jimmy Wilde...... that Boxrec isn't able to track down the fights of his opponents doesn't say thay never fought.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 28 Jul 2002, 15:20

I rank Robinson as a very great fighter yet a rater Pernel Whitaker,Tunny,greb,armstrong,ali,louis,Pepp,Wilde and many others in the same breath.I just say all the very gret fighter through history could have all beaten eachother on any givin day.
Cheers

WildeMan · Post by **WildeMan** » 29 Jul 2002, 06:53

Anonymous wrote:
JohnShep wrote:No, the greatest of all time was Jimmy Wilde

AHahahhaha i just looked him up 95% of his opponents were 0-0-0

You dumb prick. That just means boxrec don't know or havent' gotten round to entering their details.

wildman killa~!!! · Post by **wildman killa~!!!** » 24 Sep 2002, 00:47

your a idiot if you think jimmy wilde is P4P better than sugar RR, look at the opposition that sugar fought and jimmy wilde, 95% of wilde opponents were 0-0-0 and anyways jimmy wilde got ko'd by pancho villa the great filipino fighter ,im out

robin · Post by **robin** » 24 Sep 2002, 03:17

Don't you hate it when people don't finish they're sentences? What did you mean by "im out"

1 im out of my f**king mind
2 im out in left field
3 im out to lunch
4 im out of coke

Tomato-Can · Post by **Tomato-Can** » 24 Sep 2002, 06:56

robin wrote:Don't you hate it when people don't finish they're sentences? What did you mean by "im out"

1 im out of my f**king mind
2 im out in left field
3 im out to lunch
4 im out of coke

fatcity · Post by **fatcity** » 25 Sep 2002, 06:02

I ve got the answer!.....'WILDMAN KILLS' (what a name eh?) was trying to say "I m out of braincells!!"......... and I don't dissagree with him on that point!!!.

john garfield · Post by **john garfield** » 29 Sep 2002, 23:30

You might be interested in the thread I just opened on BOXERS OF THE PAST: "What Sugar Ray Robinson meant to me"

john garfield