British Top 30 P4P March 2010

[Horse]

1. (1.) David Haye
2. (2.) Ricky Hatton
3. (3.) Carl Froch
4. (4.) Amir Khan
5. (5.) Rendall Munroe
6. (6.) Matthew Macklin
7. (13.) Nathan Cleverly
8. (14.) Kevin Mitchell
9. (7.) Clinton Woods
10. (8.) Junior Witter

11. (9.) Bernard Dunne (Irish)
12. (10.) Ryan Rhodes
13. (11.) Nicky Cook
14. (12.) John Murray
15. (15.) Brian Magee (Irish)
16. (25.) Jason Booth
17. (16.) Jamie Moore
18. (17.) Kell Brook
19. (18.) Darren Barker
20. (19.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)

21. (20.) Martin Lindsay (Irish)
22. (21.) Ola Afolabi
23. (22.) John Simpson
24. (23.) Sam Sexton
25. (24.) Anthony Small
26. (26.) Jamie McDonnell
27. (27.) Ian Napa
28. (28.) John Duddy (Irish)
29. (29.) Ajose Olusegan
30. (30.) Lee Haskins

[Horse]

Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.

[crusader]

Not to many issues with the list for me, but personally I think Munroe is a bit high at #5 and Murray should be ahead of Cook. I think Woods officially announced his retirement did he not? I might be mistaken on that but if he did he should be off. And At this point I might put Froch ahead of Hatton.

[15829]

dunne and woods are retired, munroe, cook and witter to high and id like to see smith in there, other than that good list

[twenty six]

I know its a pain in the arse task mate but can you just explain why Rhodes drops two places this month, and Moore only drops one ?

[gobbles]

Mitchell should be above Cleverly and Munroe - he has beaten better fighters.

[adamburke83]

I know its probably been said before But i see a few with"(irish)" there and Matthew Macklin doesnt.....
Taught he classes himself as irish?????????

And taught McCloskey would be higher than that

[damianhucker1]

Any chance of someone doing a world p4p each month , just like this british one. boxrec have the following as p4p world list and i know we think its different.

1 Bernard Hopkins
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Floyd Mayweather Jr
4 Wladimir Klitschko
5 Vitali Klitschko
6 Chad Dawson
7 Juan Manuel Marquez
8 Arthur Abraham
9 Lucian Bute
10 Chris John
11 Hozumi Hasegawa
12 Paul Williams
13 Juan Manuel Lopez
14 Kelly Pavlik
15 Carl Froch
16 Celestino Caballero
17 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
18 Edwin Valero
19 Robert Guerrero
20 Omar Andres Narvaez
21 Yonnhy Perez
22 Vic Darchinyan
23 David Haye
24 Timothy Bradley
25 Felix Sturm

apologies for hijacking the thread

[sweetscience]

good list but id drop hatton to 4th

at this stage Khan & Froch would beat him P4P

[Asterix]

good list but id drop hatton to 4th

at this stage Khan & Froch would beat him P4P

Agreed. And also agreed on removing Woods and Dunne as they have retired.

[Horse]

Not to many issues with the list for me, but personally I think Munroe is a bit high at #5 and Murray should be ahead of Cook.

Munroe has been the European champion for just under two years and has beaten some good opponents in that time like Martinez and Maludrottu. I can see why some people would have him lower, but I think his consistency at European level over the last two years has proven more than the results of the fighters ranked below him, even if some of their wins have been "flashier".

Murray has a fight against an unnamed opponent scheduled for March 19th. If his opponent is half decent then he will go above Cook next month, if he wins.

I think Woods officially announced his retirement did he not? I might be mistaken on that but if he did he should be off. And At this point I might put Froch ahead of Hatton.

Yes, Woods has officially retired, but I decided to leave him on for a while in case he had a sudden change of heart. It has been over 6 months since Woods's last fight now, so I am likely to take him off soon. Woods will be taken out of the Rankings by the September list at the latest.

If Froch beats either Kessler or Abraham then he will go above Hatton, unless Hatton has had a comeback in that time.

[gobbles]

I know its probably been said before But i see a few with"(irish)" there and Matthew Macklin doesnt.....
Taught he classes himself as irish?????????

And taught McCloskey would be higher than that

Why do the Irish get so hung up on this all the time? Macklin was born in Birmingham, grew up in Birmingham and has homes in Birmingham and Manchester. He was also British champion and boxed for England as an amateur.

Maybe Joe Calzaghe should have been classified as Italy rather than Wales? Charlie Magri as Tunisia or Malta, rather than England?

I would assume the need to put Irish next to Dunne is because he is not qualified to box for a British title. However, as both McCloskey and Lindsay are British champions, singling them out as Irish is pretty ridiculous.

[moorser]

I know its probably been said before But i see a few with"(irish)" there and Matthew Macklin doesnt.....
Taught he classes himself as irish?????????

And taught McCloskey would be higher than that

Why do the Irish get so hung up on this all the time? Macklin was born in Birmingham, grew up in Birmingham and has homes in Birmingham and Manchester. He was also British champion and boxed for England as an amateur.

Maybe Joe Calzaghe should have been classified as Italy rather than Wales? Charlie Magri as Tunisia or Malta, rather than England?

I would assume the need to put Irish next to Dunne is because he is not qualified to box for a British title. However, as both McCloskey and Lindsay are British champions, singling them out as Irish is pretty ridiculous.

macklin has stated himself he is irish , his nationality is not for you to decide , he carries an irish passport and is a proud irishman so what gives you the right to decide for him ??


and why is it that mcloskey and lindsay are are not irish ???

they more then likely hold irish passports , is shinny bayaer "british" or mongol ???

[whicker]

10. (8.) Junior Witter

Based on what, exactly?

[Horse]

dunne and woods are retired, munroe, cook and witter to high and id like to see smith in there, other than that good list

Dunne and Woods will leave the rankings in September for the start of the new boxing season. Although, I might take Woods out earlier as he announced his retirement quite a few months ago now.

Cook and Witter are a bit too high at the moment due to their recent inactivity and losses. I will try to move them down the rankings as quickly as is reasonable.

I think Munroe's current position is okay. If Macklin wins his next fight against Gevor then he will probably overtake Munroe, but unless munroe loses he won't be falling many places down the list for a while.

Smith will probably enter the rankings if he beats Dodson later this month.

[Horse]

I know its a pain in the arse task mate but can you just explain why Rhodes drops two places this month, and Moore only drops one ?

Rhodes dropped two places as both Cleverly and Mitchell moved above him. Moore fell one place because Booth overtook him.

Since Cleverly and Mitchell were already above Moore, their move up the rankings did not effect Moore's position.

[Londonirish]

I think Woods officially announced his retirement did he not? I might be mistaken on that but if he did he should be off. And At this point I might put Froch ahead of Hatton.

Yes, Woods has officially retired, but I decided to leave him on for a while in case he had a sudden change of heart. It has been over 6 months since Woods's last fight now, so I am likely to take him off soon.

As you say he is Retired, so why not take him out, if he does have sudden change of heart as you say then keep track of where you would of had him, i think that makes more sense... You kow everyone will say each month is this your way of getting a bit of stress out and an argument

[Chris W 1982]

Shouldnt a boxer leave the rankings if he announces his retirement?????

[Asterix]

I know its probably been said before But i see a few with"(irish)" there and Matthew Macklin doesnt.....
Taught he classes himself as irish?????????

He could be put as either. To be honest, the whole nationality thing is blown out of proportion. It's something that creates divisions; a negative aspect to our society.

[Horse]

Mitchell should be above Cleverly and Munroe - he has beaten better fighters.

Mitchell's best wins are over - Prescott, Johanneson and Isaev.

Cleverly's best wins are over - Oakey, McIntosh and Brancalion.

Munroe's best wins are over - Maludrottu and Martinez x2.


I think Mitchell's best three wins are better than Cleverly's, but Cleverly has been doing more than Mitchell recently, so that is why he is above Mitchell.

I think Munroe has the best opposition of the three, he has also been doing more than Mitchell has recently.

[Horse]

I know its probably been said before But i see a few with"(irish)" there and Matthew Macklin doesnt.....
Taught he classes himself as irish?????????

He was born in England and has had most of his fights in Britain. I think being either born or raised in Ireland is pretty important as far as being Irish goes.

Was he raised in Ireland? Was he schooled in Ireland?

And taught McCloskey would be higher than that

His recent opposition has been relatively poor and he hasn't been very active either, so I think his current position is fair.

[slapbangwhallop]

I know its probably been said before But i see a few with"(irish)" there and Matthew Macklin doesnt.....
Taught he classes himself as irish?????????

And taught McCloskey would be higher than that

Why do the Irish get so hung up on this all the time? Macklin was born in Birmingham, grew up in Birmingham and has homes in Birmingham and Manchester. He was also British champion and boxed for England as an amateur.

Maybe Joe Calzaghe should have been classified as Italy rather than Wales? Charlie Magri as Tunisia or Malta, rather than England?

I would assume the need to put Irish next to Dunne is because he is not qualified to box for a British title. However, as both McCloskey and Lindsay are British champions, singling them out as Irish is pretty ridiculous.

macklin has stated himself he is irish , his nationality is not for you to decide , he carries an irish passport and is a proud irishman so what gives you the right to decide for him ??


and why is it that mcloskey and lindsay are are not irish ???

they more then likely hold irish passports , is shinny bayaer "british" or mongol ???

Well said Moorser! Its not the Irish getting hung up about anything actually - its the other way around. The man stated himself that he is Irish, he holds an Irish passport - makes him Irish in my box, not that its my opinion that counts!!!

[banjo]

Could I apply for an Irish passport given that I have Irish ancestry? Or even a Spanish one because I have Spanish ancestry too?

Nationality confuses me :geek2:

[Asterix]

Could I apply for an Irish passport given that I have Irish ancestry? Or even a Spanish one because I have Spanish ancestry too?

Nationality confuses me :geek2:

Too right. I should be able to get an Irish passport as well. :P

[Horse]

Any chance of someone doing a world p4p each month , just like this british one. boxrec have the following as p4p world list and i know we think its different.

There is the "BoxRec Forum P4P Rankings" which I currently run, which is also a top 30 list. The last update was in January. I plan on updating it this month, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=114608