Radio 4 - Boxing and the Mafia

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 25 Feb 2005, 07:46

There's a radio documentary on with Bert Sugar (boy does he get around) and a number of other old timers, about the influence of the Mafia on boxing during the 'golden era.' Sounds quite interesting. I'm buggered if I can find it in the listings.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 25 Feb 2005, 07:53

Used to like old Bert Sugar, when he was editor of The Ring.
But he's turned into a bore over the last 10 years or so - rent a hack.

Don't think he's come up with anything original to say since the mid 80's - too many whiskeys I guess.

Graham Brett · Post by **Graham Brett** » 25 Feb 2005, 08:07

MightyWarrior wrote:Used to like old Bert Sugar, when he was editor of The Ring.
But he's turned into a bore over the last 10 years or so - rent a hack.

Don't think he's come up with anything original to say since the mid 80's - too many whiskeys I guess.

Yeah, Bert Sugar regurgitates the same old crap over and over again.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 25 Feb 2005, 08:08

It happens to most of those guys, they just become rent-a-quote. Even Muhammad Ali is a bit of a bore really, same old shtick over and over again, hasn't really come up with any new lines since about 1976.

It's that old problem, of turning into a self charicature from years of being a talking head. You end up becoming what people expect.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 25 Feb 2005, 08:08

Isn't he a bit of an old pervert? He certainly laughs like one.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 25 Feb 2005, 08:16

Kilburn wrote:Isn't he a bit of an old pervert? He certainly laughs like one.

Hmmm..haven't heard anything too unsavioury about ol Bert, other than he never pays any of his writers.

Speaking of scandals, anyone remember Marv Albert? The famous NBC boxing announcer, and probably one of the best boxing commentators going.
Then someone published some photos of the poor guy prancing around in a pair of lady's knickers and it was goodbye Marv...

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 25 Feb 2005, 08:29

Is that what happened to him, I didn't know that! That's fornicating hilarious!

Graham Brett · Post by **Graham Brett** » 25 Feb 2005, 08:44

MightyWarrior wrote:
Kilburn wrote:Isn't he a bit of an old pervert? He certainly laughs like one.
Hmmm..haven't heard anything too unsavioury about ol Bert, other than he never pays any of his writers.

Speaking of scandals, anyone remember Marv Albert? The famous NBC boxing announcer, and probably one of the best boxing commentators going.
Then someone published some photos of the poor guy prancing around in a pair of lady's knickers and it was goodbye Marv...

If it had happened now he would have been made head of NBC

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 25 Feb 2005, 08:45

In fact, I see it got a lot worse for Marv a few years back - an even worse sex scandal....