Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Rick Farris]

Jake LaMotta.The Old Raging Bull

You caught him! (Why am I not surpeised )

[THEHAMMER321]

[quote="kikibalt"]
And then, this Irish lad walked in[/quote Do I need to ask ? does he need a drink

[dagosd2000]

Great job on ol' Jake's portrait Rog....

Thanks Frank and Rick. I read the book Raging Bull and of course I've seen the movie countless times. Scorsese grew up around the Jake LaMottas in the Italian neighborhood. I saw them too. They didn't have to be prize fighters. My father reminded me a lot of those types. Those guys never looked back. Like in my prior post(We're Men. We Do Whatever We Want)they forged ahead often destroying what was in their pathes without knowing it. John B. and I talked about it once. They had no excuses ,or every excuse in the world for living like they did.

A guy like LaMotta,who lived with an open throttle, to think he outlived his wife and two sons. You see him today and his body is being consumed by diabetes,but he's never lost that swagger. Like my father,LaMotta will never be broken between the ears. In spirit nor confidence. Life is before him to do whatever he wants. But of course,he's an Italian male.

[dagosd2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lavziNDNHV8

Lennon Sisters Debut On Lawrence Welk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7G61Fcl7ww

Plymouth Show 1959 Lennon Sisters

Marshmellow World

[dagosd2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqyojnM9tlc

My Favorite Gunsmoke Episode:The Killer with Charles Bronson

[THEHAMMER321]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqyojnM9tlc

My Favorite Gunsmoke Episode:The Killer with Charles Bronson

Charles Bronson one of my favorites loved him in The Mechanic and hard times

[dagosd2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHVSCribt3U

Opening Episode Of Gunsmoke with John Wayne Introducing James Arness

[dagosd2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvA8rTxS12M

Secret Love sung by Anacani "Que Chulada Es El Maiz Prieto!!!"

[Rick Farris]

And then, this Irish lad walked in[/quote Do I need to ask ? does he need a drink

That's "Uncle John"

Does he need a drink?

[Randyman]

I just got through watching "Somebody up there likes me" with Paul Newman. It's still one of my favorites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDeybxyicyI

Randy

[Randyman]

Jake LaMotta.The Old Raging Bull

Nice Rog. Too bad LaMotta and Graziano never fought.

Randy

[Expug]

Great portrait of Jake Rog.
It is sad that Jake and Rocky Graziano never fought.
I guess they were buddies from the time they were kids.
Something tells me however that Jake might have been up for it if the dough was right.
Rocky, although a good banger probably would have been a little less crazy about the idea.
I dont know for sure of course.
If they would have fought, I gotta think Jake would beat him. I dont think Rocky could hurt Jake.
I think it might be one way traffic.

[Rick Farris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqyojnM9tlc

My Favorite Gunsmoke Episode:The Killer with Charles Bronson

Charles Bronson one of my favorites loved him in The Mechanic and hard times

Gunsmoke . . .

Gunsmoke occupied Stage-3 at the CBS Studio Center for more than 20 years.
When I was thirteen (1965), I visited the Studio with my Grandfather.
He showed me around the lot, and at the time they were also shooting "The Wild, Wild West", "Gilligan's Island", "The Big Valley" and "Honey West" on the lot.
The entire "Dodge City" set was built inside the walls of Stage-3, including the Long Branch Saloon, Matt Dillons office, etc. At the time my uncle was working on Gunsmoke, and I was able to stand behind the camera and watch them film a scene with Matt, Kitty, Doc & Festus. It was a big deal to me as I'd grown up watching these charactors on Saturday night. Gilligan's Lagoon was located on the studios back lot, and remained there until the mid-90's, when it was filled in to make room for a new sound stage. I was working on "Seinfeld" at the time, and would see it every day. Today the CBS Corporate parking lot occupies the spot. Monica and I now live about a half block from the front entrance of that studio, once the Mack Sennett Studios when it was built in 1928, and later Republic Pictures. Studio City is truly a Studio town, and Gunsmoke is a part of that.

[Randyman]

Great portrait of Jake Rog.
It is sad that Jake and Rocky Graziano never fought.
I guess they were buddies from the time they were kids.
Something tells me however that Jake might have been up for it if the dough was right.
Rocky, although a good banger probably would have been a little less crazy about the idea.
I dont know for sure of course.
If they would have fought, I gotta think Jake would beat him. I dont think Rocky could hurt Jake.
I think it might be one way traffic.

That's my thought too Brian. You can't count Rocky out and he would have made a fight out of it for sure but you gotta lean with Jake.

Randy

[Expug]

Randy, its funny but Ive always thought that Jake was a pretty good defensive fighter.
If you watch old film of him, he used to roll with alot of those shots. He used to catch many of the punches on the shoulders.
He had many of those "old school" skills not seen too much anymore.
History always talks about that chin of his and it was great. However, I dont think he got hit square NEARLY as much as many think.
His defensive skills would be a difference against Rocky. I dont see Graziano landing too many of those right hands cleanly on Jake Lamotta.

[Rick Farris]

For Roger . . .

Denny Moyer vs. Sugar Ray Robinson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTBZNrh-t0

[kikibalt]

And then, this Irish lad walked in[/quote Do I need to ask ? does he need a drink

That's "Uncle John"

Does he need a drink?

Tio Juan told me that he was on the wagon, but that he would step down for a shot of Patron....

[THEHAMMER321]

Every summer I take my kids to California to go to the amusement parks we go one day to Disneyland and another day to Knox Berry Farm sometimes we go to Universal studios,but I remember one year about five years ago at the entrance people were standing out there protesting with signs about the movie Zapata about the Mexican revolutionary I think they were protesting because Antonio Bandera is Spaniard and one of the signs I read said ''would you make a movie about Malcolm X with Brad Pitt as Malcolm X'', imo I think people put to much emphasis on something like entertainment I mean I tell Polish jokes but I don't dislike Polish people also I am Italian American and I don't protest at movies like Good Fellas because they show Italians in a bad way but I do know Italians that are offended by movies like that you know what I got to say to them ''get over it'' its entertainment

[THEHAMMER321]

He looks like Howard Davis

[THEHAMMER321]

Louie Loy, his dad, whose name I can never remember, and his brother Larry

I remember Louie Loy fighting Camacho years ago looks a whole different now put on a lot of weight is he looking for a part in Kojak

[THEHAMMER321]

The night Camacho lost his nerve.

You speak the truth there I saw all Camachos fights that were on T.V up to that point and he had hall of famer written all over him but after sampling Rosario's right hand he became a cautious safety first fighter and all the partying didn't help his career either

[dagosd2000]

Harry Greb

[dagosd2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqyojnM9tlc

My Favorite Gunsmoke Episode:The Killer with Charles Bronson

Charles Bronson one of my favorites loved him in The Mechanic and hard times

Gunsmoke . . .

Gunsmoke occupied Stage-3 at the CBS Studio Center for more than 20 years.
When I was thirteen (1965), I visited the Studio with my Grandfather.
He showed me around the lot, and at the time they were also shooting "The Wild, Wild West", "Gilligan's Island", "The Big Valley" and "Honey West" on the lot.
The entire "Dodge City" set was built inside the walls of Stage-3, including the Long Branch Saloon, Matt Dillons office, etc. At the time my uncle was working on Gunsmoke, and I was able to stand behind the camera and watch them film a scene with Matt, Kitty, Doc & Festus. It was a big deal to me as I'd grown up watching these charactors on Saturday night. Gilligan's Lagoon was located on the studios back lot, and remained there until the mid-90's, when it was filled in to make room for a new sound stage. I was working on "Seinfeld" at the time, and would see it every day. Today the CBS Corporate parking lot occupies the spot. Monica and I now live about a half block from the front entrance of that studio, once the Mack Sennett Studios when it was built in 1928, and later Republic Pictures. Studio City is truly a Studio town, and Gunsmoke is a part of that.

Great story Rick.You really got chance to see history in the making working on those sets

[dagosd2000]

Every summer I take my kids to California to go to the amusement parks we go one day to Disneyland and another day to Knox Berry Farm sometimes we go to Universal studios,but I remember one year about five years ago at the entrance people were standing out there protesting with signs about the movie Zapata about the Mexican revolutionary I think they were protesting because Antonio Bandera is Spaniard and one of the signs I read said ''would you make a movie about Malcolm X with Brad Pitt as Malcolm X'', imo I think people put to much emphasis on something like entertainment I mean I tell Polish jokes but I don't dislike Polish people also I am Italian American and I don't protest at movies like Good Fellas because they show Italians in a bad way but I do know Italians that are offended by movies like that you know what I got to say to them ''get over it'' its entertainment

Paul
My Dad was in the Mob in Chicago(The Outfit).He'd look at movies like The Godfather and Goodfellas,and then shake his head and say"Naw. It never happened that way."

[dagosd2000]

Great portrait of Jake Rog.
It is sad that Jake and Rocky Graziano never fought.
I guess they were buddies from the time they were kids.
Something tells me however that Jake might have been up for it if the dough was right.
Rocky, although a good banger probably would have been a little less crazy about the idea.
I dont know for sure of course.
If they would have fought, I gotta think Jake would beat him. I dont think Rocky could hurt Jake.
I think it might be one way traffic.

That's my thought too Brian. You can't count Rocky out and he would have made a fight out of it for sure but you gotta lean with Jake.

Randy

Randy/Brian
When my Dad was living with his Uncle Chaz in New York they'd go to the fights in the Garden or St. Nicks. Often Graziano and LaMotta would be sitting across from each other at ringside. They'd be cussing each other out and saying that I can kick your ass,but it was all an act. They never fought each other.They were close friends. Maybe that had something to do with it.