THE MEDIA'S SORRY ROLE

[ThatOne]

It is possible for one to be both.

That's what I thought...

"And when Ali went from Cassius Clay to Cassius X to Muhammad Ali, Angelo, a Philly Jew, stuck by the Muslim."

http://www.thecnj.com/review/2008/09040 ... 08_01.html

Chris Dundee spent his last years at a Jewish nursing home in Miami. I just took it they were a Jewish family.

FH: What was it like for you when Muhammad Ali joined the Nation of Islam and espoused the beliefs such as, "the white man is the devil?"

Dundee: We never had that conversation. That never entered into our relationship. I was his trainer. I never followed this kid home. When he used to go into Miami, he was a Muslim then.

I learned at an early age, "You don't mess around with a fighter's personal life or his religion -- it's none of your business." He never asked me if I was a Catholic.

We never had that. We strictly worked boxing, me and Muhammad, and we had a great time. What right do I have to ask anybody anything, it's his life. That's what I said to everyone, he's sincere in whatever he does.

Ali never said anything to me negatively. This kid and I never had an argument. We had a great relationship. This kid came to my house three Christmases in a row and entertained my friends -- Jews, Polish, Irish, it didn't make any difference.

He's a lovable human being, and the nicest kid I ever had. I never had to lift a finger to make him work. He was the first guy in the gym, last guy to leave.



http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/10/27/q ... r-trainer/

[ThatOne]

Here is a youtube video of Ali doing his vile racist depicting of his opponent Joe Frazier as a gorilla.

And you can hear his audience laughing with delight.

What kind of mentality would find such poison amusing?

Watch from 1:55 on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ37lyT6u8Y

And another disgusting video of Ali depicting Frazier as a "gorilla."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOeyxA3JOwo

Muhammad Ali himself recalls an encounter with Jimmy, a young boy suffering from leukemia, who wanted to meet him before his epic fight with George Foreman in 1974. Before the boy left, Ali had a photograph taken of himself and Jimmy which he enlarged later and sent to the kid, with the inscription: “You’re going to beat cancer. I’m going to beat George. Love, Your friend, Muhammad Ali.”[10] Two weeks later Ali learned that Jimmy was in a hospital and not expected to live. Within three hours Ali was at the boy’s bedside.

When I walked in he was lying in his bed and I saw that his skin was as white as his sheets were.

Jimmy looked up with bright eyes and called out, “Muhammad, I knew you would come!”

I walked over to his bedside and said, “Jimmy, remember what I told you? I’m going to beat George Foreman and you’re going to beat cancer.”

Jimmy looked up at me and whispered, “No, Muhammad. I’m going to meet God, and I’m going to tell him that you are my friend.”

The room was silent and we were in tears. I hugged Jimmy good-bye and later that night when we returned to my training camp, none of us spoke much.[11]

A week later the boy died, and the father invited Ali to the funeral. Unable to attend, he sent Gene, his assistant. “When Gene returned from the funeral, he told [Ali] that there had been an open casket and that the autographed picture was beside Jimmy’s head.”[12]


http://www.americansc.org.uk/Online/Ali.htm

[granberry]

The VILENESS of this photo speaks for itself.

[granberry]

Muhammad Ali Owes Joe Frazier an Apology

by Robert Littal Black Sports Online April 15, 2009
http://blacksportsonline.com/index/2009 ... azier.html

It does bother me that he has never apologized to Frazier in person face to face man to man. He was wrong and he has to know that.

[granberry]

FROM BOXREC
Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier (3rd meeting)

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Muham ... d_meeting)

Ali labeled Frazier as an "Ugly dumb gorilla", deriding him as an inarticulate physical specimen devoid of any intelligence. Ali also labeled Joe as an "Uncle Tom" and as the "White Man's Champion."

Frazier, was the son of a sharecropper from the deep South, and a survivor of ghettos in New York and Philadelphia, to which he moved as a minor by himself to pursue boxing, and had certainly suffered prejudice and discrimination that Ali had never known. Furthermore, Frazier felt that Ali had betrayed him, because Frazier had attended numerous tribunals, hearings, and public relations functions in support of Ali throughout his difficulties stemming from his choice to avoid the draft. Frazier's support of Ali extended beyond Ali's legal difficulties, Frazier ardently supported Ali in his attempt to have his boxing license restored. Frazier and Ali's relationship, and the lasting enmity that Frazier harbors to this day for Ali, stems from this period of support. Frazier supported Ali financially during his exile from boxing, periodically giving Ali hundreds of dollars. The ad hominem attacks that Ali directed at Frazier, were unforgivable according to Frazier. While Ali has since asserted that he did so in an attempt to promote their fights and increase the gate, Frazier has always countered that their gate of $2.5 million a piece was guaranteed. The period of social unrest of the era is important to locate in context, as Ali as a social phenomenon transcended boxing. Frazier's bitter hatred for Ali, which remains to this day, drove Frazier to train relentlessly to beat Ali.

Worse yet, Ali tried to promote further interest in the fight by taunting Frazier at every opportunity, most famously by punching a rubber gorilla meant to represent Frazier during a press conference while saying "It's gonna be a chilla, and a killa, and a thrilla, when I get the Gorilla in Manila."

[granberry]

One exchange came in 2001 after Ali told The New York Times he was sorry for what he said about Frazier before their first fight. At first, Frazier accepted the apology, but then …

"He didn't apologize to me -- he apologized to the paper," Frazier said in a June issue of TV Guide. "I'm still waiting [for him] to say it to me."

Ali's response: "If you see Frazier, you tell him he's still a gorilla."


http://espn.go.com/classic/biography/s/Frazier_Joe.html

[ThatOne]

Hopefully this will put an end to the libelious statement that Ali wanted to quit in Manila:


It was then that Muhammad told me this story about fighting Joe Frazier in the famed "Thrilla in Manila."

"During the tenth round, he began, "I thought I might be dying. I really had to struggle to gain control of my mind, not to panic. So to give me something else to think about besides how much I hurt, I kept repeating to myself, "I am the champion of the world and no man can take my crown!"

I kept on saying this over and over inside my head. "I am the champion of the world and no man can take my crown… I am the champion of the world and no man can take my crown!

I kept saying it but at first nothing happened. Frazier was still hitting me. But then, in the thirteenth round, I started feeling this power build within me every time I said it.

"I AM THE CHAMPION OF THE WORLD AND NO MAN CAN TAKE MY CROWN!"

Ali looked me square in the eye and asked; "Do you remember what happened then?"

"You landed that right hand lead that knocked his mouthpiece up into the seats?"

"That’s right!" said Muhammad. "After that he was mine. And don’t believe all that rubbish about me not coming out for the 15th! I was coming out! I only said I might be too tired to be nice. I didn’t expect anyone to take me seriously. Frazier knew I was coming out- that’s why he didn’t."

"But I will say one thing for Old Joe," Ali continued, "he always brought out the best in me. All those years when I said I was the Greatest I didn’t really know for sure if I really was. And to be honest with you, I never really wanted to find out."

"Every time I would shave before a fight I would look into the mirror and wonder if this was the night I was going to be pushed to the limit, if this were the night I would find out if I was really the Greatest after all."

"Well, during that third fight with Frazier I realized that this was the moment I had been dreading all my life. But once I realized that the terrible moment was really upon me, I felt a strange calmness come over me. I think what saved me was that I embraced the moment rather than trying to escape it."

"In a way it was a gift. I respect Joe Frazier because I know that he’s the onliest one in the whole world who could push me like that. If it wasn’t for Joe, nobody –not even myself- would know how great I really am."

http://www.successcassettes.com/muhammad_ali.html

[granberry]

Manilla Gorilla T-Shirt by Worn By Muhammad Ali



The ‘Manilla Gorilla’ t-shirt made famous by legendary boxer Muhammad Ali was worn by the athlete himself in the run up to his fight with Joe Frazier on October 1st, 1975 at Areneta Stadium, Manila.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/addicteed/3347629420/

[granberry]

Ali called Joe Frazier an "Uncle Tom" for accepting an invitation and going to the White House after Frazier beat Ali.
Ali made the circuit of media radio shows, TV shows and interviews spitting at Frazier for going to the White House and using the most vile racist comments against Frazier.

Later, in the ultimate act of hypocrisy, Ali went to the White House after fighting Foreman.

[granberry]

SUNDANCE REVIEW: THRILLER IN MANILA
By Devin Faraci

http://www.chud.com/articles/articles/1 ... Page1.html


"There's more to the racial conflict than that, and I'm actually amazed that the movie doesn't try to make this more explicit. The Uncle Tom stuff was Ali's tactic before the first fight, but as they came to the third battle he began calling Frazier a gorilla, a term that would be incindiery if uttered by a white. The movie deals with the racial aspects of the gorilla taunting (Ali had gorilla dolls, gorilla shirts and even people in gorilla suits showing up to his trainings), but never makes note of the fact that Ali is lighter than Frazier. I'm obvioulsy not black (but I am Sicilian, so pretty close!) but even within the black community the shades of a person's blackness take on meaning. For a lighter skinned black man to call a darker skinned black man gorilla is pretty astonishing when viewed through that prism."

[Collins2000]

Lock this repetitive shite.

[Collins2000]

granberry is an expert in pretending he is not pushing a racist agenda.