Australia's Current best prospect

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After reading a few good comments (and some average ones) on other threads, I'd like to ask the question

"Who is Australia's stand out prospect at present?"

By this I mean prospect/potential prospect on the international level, not so much the local scene. Nor do I mean contenders (having an IBO belt does not automatically make you a contender IMO)

I would rather not see a list of 10 people either, just a couple or 3 with your reasons. Honourable mentions can be added after the main few if you like. Really it's up to you. I'd like to see what others think from afar as well.

I'll start

Will Tomlinson - I think he has only had 10 fights now, but has shown well drilled skills and definate power. The TKO win over powell showed potential and watching the KO of Kimbrough showed his class. I think will the right guidance he can be something.

Adam Forsyth - He needs to focus on Cruiser, but if he does i think he could potentially go all the way. He has ticked all the boxes so far. Apart from his last fight he hasn't really been tested, but he appears to be the fair dinkum goods.

Honourable mentions - Lenny, King, Mark de Mori, Junior, Omotoso
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With his recent destruction of Kimbrough, Will Tomlinson was the first that came to my mind as well.

Next would be Michael Bolling. He has been super impressive in the few fights that I have seen him and will soon have the chance to step it up when he takes on Oganov at Star City.

If I only have one more, I would have to say Junior Talipeau.

The slick King Davidson gets the HM.
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Nice thread, Toppity.
I can't go passed Wale Omotoso, I've seen him fight a few times now and am impressed with his style and the way he has taken each 'step up' in his stride.
Second for me would either be Mark de Mori, an exciting heavy weight prospect. I imagine most are going to discount him due to his loss to dangerous journey man, John Wyborn. Wyborn is an awkward, big hitter that has but a mark in many a good fighters' career, in both kickboxing and boxing. de Mori has learnt, and since moved on, from that experience.
I have only seen Will Tomlinson fight once and was impressed, I'd like to see a bit more of him, however his record speaks for it's self so he is my honorable mention along with Junior Talipou.
I haven't included Zappavigna, though as I'd like to see Lenny have a couple of solid wins against other good prospects first.
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would you blokes consider Whitehead a good prospect?
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harshfriller wrote:would you blokes consider Whitehead a good prospect?
in terms of ability perhaps, but the bloke is getting on in years and probably doesn't have enough to make any noise on the world stage.
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Marlin wrote:
harshfriller wrote:would you blokes consider Whitehead a good prospect?
in terms of ability perhaps, but the bloke is getting on in years and probably doesn't have enough to make any noise on the world stage.
thats the reason why i wouldnt choose him, but in terms of ability, maybe
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I fought against both Lenny and Will in the Amatuers i think Lenny has more power but will maybe the better boxer. I have sparred with omotoso and he eclipses both by far.. He is the real deal slick and powerful by far better than the other 2. But i do hope they all have very successful careers
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dafighter1984 wrote:I fought against both Lenny and Will in the Amatuers i think Lenny has more power but will maybe the better boxer. I have sparred with omotoso and he eclipses both by far.. He is the real deal slick and powerful by far better than the other 2. But i do hope they all have very successful careers
Thanks for the insight Dafighter :TU: Are you still fighting?
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First up I am his mate so admittedly I am biased, but for me Mark Demori ticks all the boxes.

Intelligent guy, extremely dedicated, great genetic gifts, killer instinct and great self promoter.

Since his one loss he has totally re-invented himself and is working hard to get what he is due, which in my opinion a name fighter. To be so dedicated over the past year especially, while getting no chances and essentially training himself, proves to me he has what it takes. Now that he is with a good camp and being able to focus on training full time I can't wait to see what 2010 holds for him.

I hope everyone in Aust gets behind him this year, cause as an ambassador for Australia and WA in boxing circles he is as good as you could get. Like it or not boxing is more of a business than any other sport and people always do things for a reason. Marks sole focus is to an be entertaining world known fighter that fans want to watch and he has what it takes to achieve that.

(Yeah its a fanboy post but it's all true)
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Totalpac wrote:First up I am his mate so admittedly I am biased, but for me Mark Demori ticks all the boxes.

Intelligent guy, extremely dedicated, great genetic gifts, killer instinct and great self promoter.

Since his one loss he has totally re-invented himself and is working hard to get what he is due, which in my opinion a name fighter. To be so dedicated over the past year especially, while getting no chances and essentially training himself, proves to me he has what it takes. Now that he is with a good camp and being able to focus on training full time I can't wait to see what 2010 holds for him.

I hope everyone in Aust gets behind him this year, cause as an ambassador for Australia and WA in boxing circles he is as good as you could get. Like it or not boxing is more of a business than any other sport and people always do things for a reason. Marks sole focus is to an be entertaining world known fighter that fans want to watch and he has what it takes to achieve that.

(Yeah its a fanboy post but it's all true)
I agree mate, And along with being a good fighter he is also a good bloke.

I have another name for the list also, Andy Green. He will be a really good fighter over the next few years.
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I agree mate, And along with being a good fighter he is also a good bloke.

I have another name for the list also, Andy Green. He will be a really good fighter over the next few years.
I always like to mention Robbie Bryant, but based on his talent, age and relative inactivity, I think the highest he is likely to get is an Australian title. He would be competitive against any of the current Aussie guys at 154, though I don't think he'd beat King Davidson. I've seen him spar with Daniel Dawson, and there was little to pick between them.

Ben K has beaten me to it again, but I will second that Andy Green is a real prospect. It's sad that he is also so inactive (4 fights in 2 years) because he has so much talent. He is a strong 6 foot guy who can drain to Light Heavyweight or fight comfortably at Cruiserweight. He has KO power in both hands and very good handspeed. I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say that he has more potential than Danny Green did at 26 years of age. Whether he want it badly enough is another question.
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It's one thing to be patriot, but to pick blokes only from your state is a bit narrow.....theres some really good fighters to the east.

There is a difference between opinion and fact clearly on this subject.
Me personally it's all there on paper even if you haven't seen the blokes fight.

1, Omotoso by a country mile, he's beaten the best welter in Australia, Columban, he's with ease beat a man in Augustus who has very good wins over world rated fighters, has smashed what south korea has to offer and continues to keep going up a level...Ray Musson isn't an example of going up a level but thats another varying factor of picking a prospect, you must be active, at 5'11 for a Welter and what appears to be great power(he's smashed every fighter he's been in with), he is head and shoulders above the rest. I also have the privilege of saying i've been chanting his name since the first couple of fights I seen him in on fox. :OhYes:

2,Michael bolling keeps surprising me, his 2 best wins were over a Letoa 10-1 and Serge Yannick who is locally considered highly rated and is doing what every hardcore fan asks of a young fighter to keep testing yourself.
His activity is excellent 6 fights a year and each fight reads as though a story/journey is taking place.

Honorable mentions Vea,Zappa,Tomlinson.

I've always been a big supporter of Zappa since seeing him fight, but his last fight posed a lot of questions that need to be answered.
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id say zappa at the moment.
fred mundraby looks good. dunno how far he'll go..
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Comatoso Omotoso is the closest I've seen to a potential world champion in 2-3 years. The quality logjam at welter now is a problem but it could clear.

Joel Brunker seems to be quietly building a good career and has a great set of hands.

If Bolling's learning curve continues at the same pace he could be a Jeff Harding style smokie.

In the Contender Junior Talipeau's skills looked like they have improved to the next level and his chin was unbelievable. I'd love to see him step up.

All eyes on Top Ranks Paul Fleming as well.
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:witzend: I can't believe I didn't mention Brunker!?!
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It's one thing to be patriot, but to pick blokes only from your state is a bit narrow.....theres some really good fighters to the east.

There is a difference between opinion and fact clearly on this subject.
Me personally it's all there on paper even if you haven't seen the blokes fight.
True, I just have a bit of a soft spot for Bryant in particular as he used to me my trainer, and Andy Green trained at the same gym. If you got the impression that I think they are the best two prospects is Australia, well that's certainly not what I intended, I just wanted to give them a mention.

I tend not to comment on fighters that I haven't seen, but I will agree that Omotoso seems world class, and it will be very interesting when he steps up.
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dberry wrote:Nice thread, Toppity.
I can't go passed Wale Omotoso, I've seen him fight a few times now and am impressed with his style and the way he has taken each 'step up' in his stride.
Second for me would either be Mark de Mori, an exciting heavy weight prospect. I imagine most are going to discount him due to his loss to dangerous journey man, John Wyborn. Wyborn is an awkward, big hitter that has but a mark in many a good fighters' career, in both kickboxing and boxing. de Mori has learnt, and since moved on, from that experience.
I have only seen Will Tomlinson fight once and was impressed, I'd like to see a bit more of him, however his record speaks for it's self so he is my honorable mention along with Junior Talipou.
I haven't included Zappavigna, though as I'd like to see Lenny have a couple of solid wins against other good prospects first.
I hadn't heard of Omotoso before reading this topic. His record is looking good so far. The Augustus KO victory stands out for me. Augustus's first KO loss since Mayweather Jr in 2000! :oo

Great topic, Toppity. It gives me an insight into the future of Aussie boxing. :TU:
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I haven't seen him fight as a pro yet, but seeing Flemming's name mentioned made me think of - Jarrod Fletcher? How's he looked so far. Had a pretty decent amateur career, bright lights or not on the horizon?

Other than that, Green and Forsyth were the first two I thought of. Good lists so far.
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madball1982 wrote:I haven't seen him fight as a pro yet, but seeing Flemming's name mentioned made me think of - Jarrod Fletcher? How's he looked so far. Had a pretty decent amateur career, bright lights or not on the horizon?
Holds his hands real low and if continues that habit while padding his record it will come back to bite him when he steps it up.
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fletcher is out for awhile with a shoulder problem
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Shane McConville, Omar Shaik, and Paul Flemming not a lot of round between all of these guys (as pros) but all three will be there maybe not this year but wont be long.
O M to all the other fighters that have the balls to get into the ring.
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corey mcconnell is pretty good to watch, gets a fair bit of support around brisbane too
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
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adamheight wrote:corey mcconnell is pretty good to watch, gets a fair bit of support around brisbane too
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
not really at prospect level yet though is he?
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Cant say i've followed his career in detail, but is Kickett no longer considered a prospect for Oz?
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Tinnie wrote:Cant say i've followed his career in detail, but is Kickett no longer considered a prospect for Oz?
He hasnt been training for a while apparently, I seen him at the Amatuers the other night and he looked about 10-15KGs above his fighting weight.
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