Bubis Heavyweight Ranking February 2005

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 01 Mar 2005, 11:22

He needs a significant win now to get him in the top 10, as people like Peter, Golota, Valuev etc have all stolen a march. Rahman is back in due to activity and past record. Mind you Levin and Guinn have gone. Guinn looks like he won't recover to me too.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 01 Mar 2005, 11:32

Nice list Bubi, mines only slighty different:

1/ Harrison
2/ Vitali (close, but I think Big Aud just pips him to the No1 spot)
3/ Williams
4/ Skelton
5/ Sprott
6/ Hide
7/ Long
8/ Pele Reid
9/ Bruno
10/ Errr........Henry Cooper.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 01 Mar 2005, 11:33

I agree Might-Warrior.

But dont you think Cooper's inactivity hurts his status?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 01 Mar 2005, 11:36

What about Don Cockell, Bugner, Joe Erskine they all deserve a rating.

J · Post by J » 01 Mar 2005, 11:37

jack and brian london also, bob fitzimmons (does he?

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MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 01 Mar 2005, 11:37

DavidPayne wrote:I agree Might-Warrior.

But dont you think Cooper's inactivity hurts his status?

That's a fair point Dave, and I thought long and hard about including 'Enry in the worlds top ten. But I believe his past form and devastating left hook warrants a number ten spot.

Plus his cuts problems have cleared up too.

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 01 Mar 2005, 11:41

MightyWarrior wrote:Nice list Bubi, mines only slighty different:

1/ Harrison
2/ Vitali (close, but I think Big Aud just pips him to the No1 spot)
3/ Williams
4/ Skelton
5/ Sprott
6/ Hide
7/ Long
8/ Pele Reid
9/ Bruno
10/ Errr........Henry Cooper.

What!!? No Michael Murray? Surely he's a top 10 heavy. Just look at his record, all those decent fighters he's faced!!

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 01 Mar 2005, 11:42

MightyWarrior wrote:Nice list Bubi, mines only slighty different:

1/ Harrison
2/ Vitali (close, but I think Big Aud just pips him to the No1 spot)
3/ Williams
4/ Skelton
5/ Sprott
6/ Hide
7/ Long
8/ Pele Reid
9/ Bruno
10/ Errr........Henry Cooper.

no, don´t agree. You forgot Julius Francis. he must be #3 at least. he gave your #1 the hardest fight

Plus: He was the best opponent Harrison did beat

J · Post by J » 01 Mar 2005, 11:43

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 01 Mar 2005, 12:31

When I will be in London I will buy the monumental boxing book "Audley Harrison - Realising The Dream"

The first book somebody describes how to get to the top though he hasn´t been there.....

states · Post by **states** » 01 Mar 2005, 12:36

BubiScholz wrote:When I will be in London I will buy the monumental boxing book "Audley Harrison - Realising The Dream"

The first book somebody describes how to get to the top though he hasn´t been there.....

I thought it was called 'Realising I'm Dreaming'?

J · Post by J » 01 Mar 2005, 12:37

mate if your not careful you'll be sleeping in the garage and i dont even have one

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 01 Mar 2005, 12:59

1. Scott Gammer
2. Roy Jones (has the ability to beat Vitali in his next fight)
3. Micheal Sprott
4. James Toney
5. "Big Bad" John McDermott
6. Lamon Brewster
7. David Haye (can move up and win big honors)
8. John ruiz
9. David Tua
10. George Foreman (can come back and rule the division)

Vitali is a Wrestler and i don´t rank him though he is of course one of the champs. in two fights he will be history when Gammer wrestles him to death.

states · Post by **states** » 01 Mar 2005, 13:08

lirva33 wrote:1. Scott Gammer
2. Roy Jones (has the ability to beat Vitali in his next fight)
3. Micheal Sprott
4. James Toney
5. "Big Bad" John McDermott
6. Lamon Brewster
7. David Haye (can move up and win big honors)
8. John ruiz
9. David Tua
10. George Foreman (can come back and rule the division)

Vitali is a Wrestler and i don´t rank him though he is of course one of the champs. in two fights he will be history when Gammer wrestles him to death.

Shouldn't you have Witter in there?

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 01 Mar 2005, 13:09

lirva33 wrote: Vitali is a Wrestler

This is the only sentence I never heard from any Vitali-hater. You are the first one. Congratulation.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 01 Mar 2005, 16:19

1) Tommy Farr
2) Scott Gammar
3) Darren Morgan
4) Andrew Davies
5) Barry Jones (old man).

BTW, Corrie Sanders hasn't retired.

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 01 Mar 2005, 16:41

stujones wrote:1) Tommy Farr
2) Scott Gammar
3) Darren Morgan
4) Andrew Davies
5) Barry Jones (old man).

BTW, Corrie Sanders hasn't retired.

I actually laughed out loud.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 02 Mar 2005, 05:58

stujones wrote:1) Tommy Farr
2) Scott Gammar
3) Darren Morgan
4) Andrew Davies
5) Barry Jones (old man).

BTW, Corrie Sanders hasn't retired.

nice standings for the South West Wales Championship

d1mak · Post by **d1mak** » 02 Mar 2005, 10:45

1.Vitaly Klitschko - he is going to be a favorite in any HW fight
2.Ruiz and Byrd - I would give them 50/50 versus each other, but favorite above averybody else but VK
3.Golota, Rahman, Barrett, McCline, Brewster - in this order they are pretty good contenders and with some luck could be a titleholder(Brewster case, but I would put him in the next lower level)
4.Valuev, Peter - they are very good fighters, who just didn't fought enough in the top tier.
5.Toney, Maskaev, W.Klitschko - They are good, but they all have flows so I wouldn't put my money on them if they fight someone from above.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 02 Mar 2005, 10:49

d1mak wrote:1.Vitaly Klitschko - he is going to be a favorite in any HW fight
2.Ruiz and Byrd - I would give them 50/50 versus each other, but favorite above averybody else but VK
3.Golota, Rahman, Barrett, McCline, Brewster - in this order they are pretty good contenders and with some luck could be a titleholder(Brewster case, but I would put him in the next lower level)
4.Valuev, Peter - they are very good fighters, who just didn't fought enough in the top tier.
5.Toney, Maskaev, W.Klitschko - They are good, but they all have flows so I wouldn't put my money on them if they fight someone from above.

you only rate the american fighters higher. debatable.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 02 Mar 2005, 10:51

Agree with all of that except Toney. His only flaw is size and injury. Skills wise he doesn't have any. He has a great chin, great defence, superior offensive skills and is an all around great fighter, but the guess is that he is just too small for the best in the division. Byrd would probably beat him too on speed. Good fight that though.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 02 Mar 2005, 10:56

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Agree with all of that except Toney. His only flaw is size and injury. Skills wise he doesn't have any. He has a great chin, great defence, superior offensive skills and is an all around great fighter, but the guess is that he is just too small for the best in the division. Byrd would probably beat him too on speed. Good fight that though.

he should fight in light heavy.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 02 Mar 2005, 10:57

BubiScholz wrote:
d1mak wrote:1.Vitaly Klitschko - he is going to be a favorite in any HW fight
2.Ruiz and Byrd - I would give them 50/50 versus each other, but favorite above averybody else but VK
3.Golota, Rahman, Barrett, McCline, Brewster - in this order they are pretty good contenders and with some luck could be a titleholder(Brewster case, but I would put him in the next lower level)
4.Valuev, Peter - they are very good fighters, who just didn't fought enough in the top tier.
5.Toney, Maskaev, W.Klitschko - They are good, but they all have flows so I wouldn't put my money on them if they fight someone from above.
you only rate the american fighters higher. debatable.

Err, you didn;t notice Vitali at #1 then? Christ!

Valuev and Peter haven't beaten anyone of note yet, Maskaev has obvious flaws. Wlad keeps getting knocked out.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 02 Mar 2005, 10:58

BubiScholz wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Agree with all of that except Toney. His only flaw is size and injury. Skills wise he doesn't have any. He has a great chin, great defence, superior offensive skills and is an all around great fighter, but the guess is that he is just too small for the best in the division. Byrd would probably beat him too on speed. Good fight that though.
he should fight in light heavy.

nope cruiserweight, he wouldn't make LH any more.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 02 Mar 2005, 11:02

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Agree with all of that except Toney. His only flaw is size and injury. Skills wise he doesn't have any. He has a great chin, great defence, superior offensive skills and is an all around great fighter, but the guess is that he is just too small for the best in the division. Byrd would probably beat him too on speed. Good fight that though.
he should fight in light heavy.
nope cruiserweight, he wouldn't make LH any more.

he should have stayed in LH. in cruiser you don´t earn money and attention. it´s the weight class nobody needs.