Hypothetical Match-Up Game

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Pacquiao could use speed and get in and out similiar to what Taylor did but more effectively. At SFW or LW might be different but at LWW I think JCC was past it and couldnt live with Pacquiao. Pacquiao UD

Jose Napoles vs Floyd Mayweather JR 12 rounds Welterweight

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Ray Leonard vs James Toney 12 rounds Middleweight
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Napoles wins a close, but clear, UD, with Mayweather having the better of the early going but retreating into his shell in the later rounds after he gets a taste of Napoles' power. Napoles was in a different league to anyone Floyd has faced, IMO.

Leonard-Toney is a tough one. I think peak Toney would give any great in history a run for their money, and I think he just takes this one, in an extremely close MD, with Toney winning by just one point on two cards.

Next up, this era vs the 80s at HW:
Vitali Klitschko vs Mike Tyson
John Ruiz vs Michael Spinks
Bonecrusher Smith vs Hasim Rahman

All 12rds, all prime v prime
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The size dimensions are a bitch for Mike, but he is so low and Vitali has such a limited punch variety and not a lot of power. I'm going to take Tyson by borish decision, wouldn't be surprised if Vitali won in a stinker either.

Spinks by wide decision.

Bonehugger by KO.


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Bert Cooper vs Mormeck 12 rds

Basilio vs Mosley 15rd Main event
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Lockridge takes a UD off the overrated John

Cooper catches Mormeck early or loses late. I'm more inclined to think the latter.

Prime Basilio at 147 decisions Mosley in a razor thin affair.

Jack Dempsey vs Michael Moorer @ 190 lb catchweight :OhYes:
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Lockridge takes a UD off the overrated John

Cooper catches Mormeck early or loses late. I'm more inclined to think the latter.

Prime Basilio at 147 decisions Mosley in a razor thin affair.

Jack Dempsey vs Michael Moorer @ 190 lb catchweight :OhYes:
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Can't see Moorer surviving, & he's not damaging enough to olbiterate Dempsey early & neutralise the threat.

Dempsey, early & savage.

Gene Fullmer vs. Jake LaMotta at Middle. 15 rounds. Err, could get a little willing :DD
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It's Lamotta early, and Fullmer late. Lamotta stalks Gene for the entire fight, most of the time willing to eat two or three punches to land one. Both men are battered and bruised at then end though, but Fullmer's hand is raised in victory.

Joel Casamayor vs Manny Pacquiao @ 130
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Casamayor generally makes Pacquiao look ridiculous as Manny misses like crazy and Casamayor occasionally nails him with flush counters, on top of the dirty tricks (head leading, low blows, grappling) that Casamayor was known for and that Agapito Sanchez used to good effect against Pacquiao. Despite all of this though, Manny's endless stamina and consistent workrate allow him to lay enough leather on Casamayor in order to steal a very close decision.

Ricardo Lopez vs. Michael Carbajal (PrimevPrime)
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Diamond WEAPON wrote:Casamayor generally makes Pacquiao look ridiculous as Manny misses like crazy and Casamayor occasionally nails him with flush counters, on top of the dirty tricks (head leading, low blows, grappling) that Casamayor was known for and that Agapito Sanchez used to good effect against Pacquiao. Despite all of this though, Manny's endless stamina and consistent workrate allow him to lay enough leather on Casamayor in order to steal a very close decision.

Ricardo Lopez vs. Michael Carbajal (PrimevPrime)
Sadly, a fight which never was. An electric battle, but you can only have one winner. Give me Lopez on points. I've just never seen any better at that weight in my lifetime. Maybe at any weight.

Jack Dempsey & Larry Holmes. 15 Rounds...
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:
Diamond WEAPON wrote:Casamayor generally makes Pacquiao look ridiculous as Manny misses like crazy and Casamayor occasionally nails him with flush counters, on top of the dirty tricks (head leading, low blows, grappling) that Casamayor was known for and that Agapito Sanchez used to good effect against Pacquiao. Despite all of this though, Manny's endless stamina and consistent workrate allow him to lay enough leather on Casamayor in order to steal a very close decision.

Ricardo Lopez vs. Michael Carbajal (PrimevPrime)
Sadly, a fight which never was. An electric battle, but you can only have one winner. Give me Lopez on points. I've just never seen any better at that weight in my lifetime. Maybe at any weight.

Jack Dempsey & Larry Holmes. 15 Rounds...
IMO Holmes breaks Dempsey up with the jab over the course of the fight, although Dempsey gets inside and damages Holmes to the body, especially as Holmes tires... the late rounds maybe see Holmes holding on but his early work keeps him viable on the cards... ends up a draw.

My go:

Archie Moore (55-58) vs James Toney (2003, the Jirov fight)
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I'm assuming this is at the current CW limit? I don't favor Toney's chances here, and it wouldnt surprise me if Moore stops him late. "Lights Out" was simply not as elusive at these higher weight classes, and Moore's punches would have bad intentions, unlike Jirov who was mainly a slapper at CW.

Moore TKO11

Napoles vs Trinidad @ 147
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Napoles by late KO while well up on the cards.

Manny Pacquiao (current) vs Ray Leonard (Duran I vintage) 15 rds @147

Wilfredo Benitez vs Kostya Tzsyu 15 rds @140
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Holman by close but unanimous decision, I think it would take Cerdan a while to get anything going and it isn't like Holman is going to tire.


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Jesus pimentel vs Lupe Pintor 12rds

Jake LaMotta vs Mike McCallum 15
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Holyfield TKO10

Ray Mancini vs Diego Corrales 12rds
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Mancini on a split.

2003: Acelino Freitas-Joel Casamayor return bout...
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I've always had more time for Casamayor out of the two... Casamayor demoralises and possibly roughs up Freitas to take it by the last 3-4 rounds...

James Toney vs Roy Jones Jr, 1996, 175lbs
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Jones by shutout

Tyrone Everett vs Alexis Arguello 15rds
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Curry wide UD.

One that's been on my mind lately:
Vicente Saldivar vs Azumah Nelson 15 rds Featherweight.
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hitman09 wrote:Curry wide UD.

One that's been on my mind lately:
Vicente Saldivar vs Azumah Nelson 15 rds Featherweight.
Good one! I suspect the Professor squeaks by with hugely entertaining MD where both men hit the deck at least once.


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I suspect Nelson would do better than that.

As far as the Monzon Muhammad affair I think Monzon would win a UD against the bigger but less skilled Saad. But it would not be pretty.

Benny Bass vs Freddy Miller Feather weight fight.
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Miller tko 11th bass..... how about, o'grady vs pazienza for 10 rounds, and terry downes vs paul williams for 12 rounds... specialty bout bob murphy vs bob satterfield @ 175 for 10 rounds
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Paz UD O'Grady
Williams SD Downes
Satterfield KO11 Murphy



A FW attraction card

Hamed vs Juan Manuel Marquez

Wilfredo Gomez vs Fenech

Chacon vs Juan Manuel Lopez
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Gomez & Chacon beat Fenech & Lopez.

Diosbelys Hurtado (1998) vs. Zab Judah (2001) at 140?
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I suppose I'll take the others...

I'd go for Gomez to win a UD over Fenech, who I don't think was quite on his level.

Chacon KO 6 Lopez. Lopez as yet has not fought anywhere near that level, and hasn't the experience to stick around in this one.

Next up:
Eder Jofre vs Chacon at FW
Freddie Miller vs Battling Battalino at FW
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Oops, too late.
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