david haye or wladimir klitschko ......... head not heart !!

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 25 Mar 2010, 11:31

take your pick....one vote each, forget our british bias, this is about who WILL win, not who you WANT to win !!

n1ebf · Post by **n1ebf** » 25 Mar 2010, 11:35

Clit.

idle talk · Post by **idle talk** » 25 Mar 2010, 11:56

im saying haye going off watching sanders and brewster taking klit out. (although i think wlads a completely different fighter now) Haye has the tools to beat him! i think vitali would be a tougher fight!

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 25 Mar 2010, 12:00

Haye would beat Vlad easily but would get hammered off Vitali. Two different fighters.

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » 25 Mar 2010, 12:02

Versus Wlad, Haye would win by TKO...

Vitali would probably deck him though.

Spiker · Post by **Spiker** » 25 Mar 2010, 12:10

Yes haye would get to Wlad first i reckon.
vitali is a tough mofo and may walk haye down.
In all truth though vitali hasnt really been put under any sort of pressure since LL.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 25 Mar 2010, 12:12

i think he could sneak a fast right over wlad's jab, hurt him and perhaps finish him. if the opportunity comes up.

but if haye does what everyone else does, and just try to survive, then it'll be a painful night, delaying the inevitable.

has he got the willing to truly land a hard shot?

Jab and Move · Post by **Jab and Move** » 25 Mar 2010, 12:15

Wlad wins all day long.

Haye cant chase Wlad, he dont got the chin too. He cant outbox him.

alexpaterson · Post by **alexpaterson** » 25 Mar 2010, 13:16

Wlad.

Too skilled and I beleive he could keep Haye at range behind his jab. I dont think Haye could get inside him or beat him at range. Wlad is such a good ring general, I doubt Haye will be able to overcome that

Deno1986 · Post by **Deno1986** » 25 Mar 2010, 13:23

Klitschko by stoppage of some sort.

Matt W · Post by **Matt W** » 25 Mar 2010, 13:37

Klitschko stops him for me. He will be punching down on Haye's temples, where his vulnerability lies. If Haye wouldn't commit against Valuev, who is rubbish and a relatively light puncher, I can't see him doing so against Wlad.

neil hibbert · Post by **neil hibbert** » 25 Mar 2010, 13:45

ive always said hayes speed will be too much for wlad just look up the corey sanders fight

lefthook82 · Post by **lefthook82** » 25 Mar 2010, 14:13

Vlad easily

The 'idea' of Haye is more potent then the actual reality from what I have seen.All this amazing spped, power, etc but as we all know, the jab is the answer(full or partly) to any question in boxing and noone does it better than Vlad

Vlad lines him up with the jab and takes him down with the hammer, anytime in the 1st 3. He landed murderous shots in the 2nd round against Chagaev and Chambers so I'll go for brutal KO in 2 rounds

gobbles · Post by **gobbles** » 25 Mar 2010, 14:41

Wlad would destory Haye. He might have a chance with Vitali, though, as time's catching up with him.

Spud · Post by **Spud** » 25 Mar 2010, 16:19

rhino222 wrote:take your pick....one vote each, forget our british bias, this is about who WILL win, not who you WANT to win !!

Haye - very easily indeed

But against Vitali - different story!!!

lefthook82 · Post by **lefthook82** » 25 Mar 2010, 16:28

Vitali is the easier fight for Haye imo

n1ebf · Post by **n1ebf** » 25 Mar 2010, 16:30

Spud wrote:
rhino222 wrote:take your pick....one vote each, forget our british bias, this is about who WILL win, not who you WANT to win !!
Haye - very easily indeed

But against Vitali - different story!!!

Haye very easily indeed. You must be having an absolute laugh. Wlad is the smaller Klitschko yet he still towers over Haye, he has not even the slightest bit of apprehension about Haye judging from the footage I saw of Haye upstaging him in a shopping mall....Haye would take that piston jab for long periods then get KO'd a bloodied mess. I'm not saying he is without his chances......but they are extremely slim.

Spud · Post by **Spud** » 25 Mar 2010, 16:31

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
Spud wrote:
rhino222 wrote:take your pick....one vote each, forget our british bias, this is about who WILL win, not who you WANT to win !!
Haye - very easily indeed

But against Vitali - different story!!!
Haye very easily indeed. You must be having an absolute laugh. Wlad is the smaller Klitschko yet he still towers over Haye, he has not even the slightest bit of apprehension about Haye judging from the footage I saw of Haye upstaging him in a shopping mall....Haye would take that piston jab for long periods then get KO'd a bloodied mess. I'm not saying he is without his chances......but they are extremely slim.

Wladimir only has to get tapped and he will fall over.

n1ebf · Post by **n1ebf** » 25 Mar 2010, 16:41

it's tapping him tho. And in fact to be fair it's not just tapping him, it's leathering him pretty sweet with the right hand. Yes I agree WK looked like a Mummy walking round after Chambers in round 12 despite what someone ludicrously described as "showing good work rate", while looking wide open to a right......but the reality is I don't think DH can find it (the target).

Manc_Red · Post by **Manc_Red** » 25 Mar 2010, 16:52

I think Wlad would be a very good warn-up for the real deal in Vitali - Haye to stop Vlad inside 6.

Vitali would take some beating though - complete different kettle of fish

Spud · Post by **Spud** » 25 Mar 2010, 16:55

Manc_Red wrote:I think Wlad would be a very good warn-up for the real deal in Vitali - Haye to stop Vlad inside 6.

Vitali would take some beating though - complete different kettle of fish

The reasons why is Vitali has a rock solid chin!!!! - he wont mind taking some punches and David does not hit harder than Lennox.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 25 Mar 2010, 17:20

Spud wrote:
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
Spud wrote: Haye - very easily indeed

But against Vitali - different story!!!
Haye very easily indeed. You must be having an absolute laugh. Wlad is the smaller Klitschko yet he still towers over Haye, he has not even the slightest bit of apprehension about Haye judging from the footage I saw of Haye upstaging him in a shopping mall....Haye would take that piston jab for long periods then get KO'd a bloodied mess. I'm not saying he is without his chances......but they are extremely slim.
Wladimir only has to get tapped and he will fall over.

If Wlad taps Haye, he will fall over as well. Have your forgotten about his trips to the canvas?

mickey1975 · Post by **mickey1975** » 26 Mar 2010, 11:04

Wlad,easily.I know Haye is a boxrec favourite,but come on lads,anyone who knows the game would have to say Haye,in this fight,would be a bigger outsider than Hatton against Mayweather.Everyone goes on about him hitting him with a "hayemaker",but,to be honest,i dont even think Booth would send him out to fight that way.They were terrified of Valuev hitting him and one look at his record tells you he's not a puncher.I hope the odds are short due to national hope,but it will be buying money.Genuinely hope im wrong,but i would put my life on a Wlad stoppage

J · Post by J » 26 Mar 2010, 12:22

dont agree think you will find haye tries to mug him.

its the only way i can see him winning get on that chin early dont let vlad get into his stride.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 26 Mar 2010, 12:27

david haye.

hits too hard.

wladimir has no answers when he gets hurt.

it all goes west.

sooner or later haye gets him going with something.

haye by KO.