USA vs. Italy in Reno

[Dennis]

Lenroy Thompson lost to Cammarelle 10-18.
Team USA lost to Italy 4-7.

[LRSJ]

Ray - are you boxing in the IN GG?
I read that Lucies lost. How about that young guy at 178 Wynten Ellis, is he in the tourney this year?

Sorry I am taking so long to get back. I accidentally fell asleep.
No, I'm not boxing in the IN GG. I have been working 60+ hours per week and with the 7 kids and the college class it just wasn't happening. I don't know if Wynten Ellis entered the tournament or not. When he fought last year I saw him and thought he should have won but I haven't heard if he is even in the tournament this year. He was strong at 178 though. There might be a young up and comer at 201 from the junior level but I can't remember his name. He is from Columbus, IN and I heard he has a lot of heart. He's probably not a threat for nationals yet but maybe in a couple of years.

[LRSJ]

Lenroy Thompson lost to Cammarelle 10-18.
Team USA lost to Italy 4-7.

Well judging by the point total it looks like Lenroy had a pretty respectable showing considering the opponent but its hard to tell by the computer scoring. At least he landed some punches the judges counted. Its too bad we haven't been able to beat Italy on the overall score. They have a lot of experience.

[LRSJ]

Anybody hear why Hunter didn't box in either dual?

I was wondering the same thing. I really like him and was hoping he would get lots of experience and get a medal in the next Olympics.

[Dennis]

I knew it would be tough for USA to defeat Italy in either dual. USA won the bouts it should and was close in others.

[byrdman66]

Jeff - Did Louie say what the score was in his bout?

Louie score was 0-0 for two round. Louie state they stop the for 5min. to go to paper scoring.

[Dennis]

They have too many problems with the ESS. I don't get why. Clicker scoring is inexpensive and they don't break down.

[T Duquette]

I saw them break down alot in denver last year. Do they break down like that at the olympics and worlds? Ive never seen it but im not sure... if not, whats wrong with ours?

[Jma05]

seems like amatuer boxing with the scoring really is not boxing anymore. i lke to call it point fighting. its horrible. like a earlier post said louies fight was 0-0 after 2 rounds. now how is that possible. how is it possible for neither to score a point within 6 minutes of boxing. amatuer boxing has really took a turn for the worst and it really doesnt make sense anymore. no wonder only boxing people toon in for the olympics. the average person today do not really understand amatuer boxing

[Dennis]

seems like amatuer boxing with the scoring really is not boxing anymore. i lke to call it point fighting. its horrible. like a earlier post said louies fight was 0-0 after 2 rounds. now how is that possible. how is it possible for neither to score a point within 6 minutes of boxing. amatuer boxing has really took a turn for the worst and it really doesnt make sense anymore. no wonder only boxing people toon in for the olympics. the average person today do not really understand amatuer boxing

No, that is how they knew that the computer system wasn't working because the score was still 0-0 after the 2nd round. At major competitions they have back-up judges who sit and use the clickers and if the ESS goes down, then and only then will they go to the clicker scorecards. If not, those scorecards are destroyed. At the duals, they often do not have extra judges on hand so the same judges who were using the ESS have to switch and start using clickers. Therefore, the round(s) or parts of round(s) that were being scored with ESS are lost and not counted in the final score. That stinks!

[primp]

Ray - are you boxing in the IN GG?
I read that Lucies lost. How about that young guy at 178 Wynten Ellis, is he in the tourney this year?

Sorry I am taking so long to get back. I accidentally fell asleep.
No, I'm not boxing in the IN GG. I have been working 60+ hours per week and with the 7 kids and the college class it just wasn't happening. I don't know if Wynten Ellis entered the tournament or not. When he fought last year I saw him and thought he should have won but I haven't heard if he is even in the tournament this year. He was strong at 178 though. There might be a young up and comer at 201 from the junior level but I can't remember his name. He is from Columbus, IN and I heard he has a lot of heart. He's probably not a threat for nationals yet but maybe in a couple of years.

What's going on. I'm Wynten's uncle. Wynten has a elbow injury that has kept him out of the ring for about 9 months. They were too late to sign him up for the Indiana GG, so he's in the Chicago GGs. He won the first fight with a stoppage in the 2nd rd, and won the 2nd with a stopage in the 1st round. He's fighting the championship on 4/10/10......And he did beat Lucies last year in Terre Haute and beat him for the 2nd time in GG, but the fight was given to Lucies in Indianapolis.

[LRSJ]

What's going on. I'm Wynten's uncle. Wynten has a elbow injury that has kept him out of the ring for about 9 months. They were too late to sign him up for the Indiana GG, so he's in the Chicago GGs. He won the first fight with a stoppage in the 2nd rd, and won the 2nd with a stopage in the 1st round. He's fighting the championship on 4/10/10......And he did beat Lucies last year in Terre Haute and beat him for the 2nd time in GG, but the fight was given to Lucies in Indianapolis.

Yeah I didn't see the fight at Terre Haute but I thought Wynten dominated the one in Indy. The funny thing was that some of the people I was with agreed with the decision and thought Lucies won. Their styles are so different I guess it just depends what one was watching. Anyway, good luck to Wynten at the Chicago GG finals and nationals this year. I think 178 is a wide open weight class nationally.

[Dennis]

What's going on. I'm Wynten's uncle. Wynten has a elbow injury that has kept him out of the ring for about 9 months. They were too late to sign him up for the Indiana GG, so he's in the Chicago GGs. He won the first fight with a stoppage in the 2nd rd, and won the 2nd with a stopage in the 1st round. He's fighting the championship on 4/10/10......And he did beat Lucies last year in Terre Haute and beat him for the 2nd time in GG, but the fight was given to Lucies in Indianapolis.

Does anyone know much about the guy Wynten is boxing in the finals, Armando Pina? I know that he is ranked #8 in USA.
178 will be interesting. Browne from NY, Shabazz, Brant, Ellis/Pina, Geffrard, Spencer, Anthony, etc. Actually, I don't think Shabazz will be in the GG and I'm not sure about some of the others. There will probably be a bunch of new stars too.

[Dennis]

USA vs. Italy Dual II Results
112 lbs/51 kg: Alex Ferramosca, ITA, def. Louie Byrd, Denver, Colo./USA
112 lbs/51 kg: Vincenzo Piccardi, ITA, dec. Santos Vasquez, Sun Valley, Nev./USA., 16-6
125 lbs/57 kg: Rau’shee Warren, Cincinnati, Ohio/USA dec. Alessio DiSavino, ITA, 3-0 (paper scoring)
132 lbs/female: Mikaela Mayer, West Hills, Calif./USA dec. Romina Marendza, ITA, 22-10
132 lbs/60 kg: Domenico Valentino, ITA, won on retirement over Adrian Martinez, Milwaukee, Wis./USA, RET-3 (2:32)
141 lbs/64 kg: Davide Cencianelli, ITA stopped Jamel Herring, Jacksonville, N.C./USA, RSC-3
152 lbs/69 kg: Eduardo Alicea, Cleveland, Ohio/USA dec. Diego DiLuisa, ITA, 21-11
165 lbs/75 kg: Jesse Hart, Philadelphia, Pa./USA dec. Luca Podda, ITA, 14-4
178 lbs/81 kg: Simone Fiori, ITA, dec. Robert Brant, Invergrove, Minn./USA, 9-6
201 lbs/91 kg: Clemente Russo, ITA, dec. Javonta Charles, Memphis, Tenn./USA, 8-3
201+ lbs/91+ kg: Roberto Cammarelle, ITA, dec. Lenroy Thompson, Lenexa, Kansas/USA, 18-10

[primp]

What's going on. I'm Wynten's uncle. Wynten has a elbow injury that has kept him out of the ring for about 9 months. They were too late to sign him up for the Indiana GG, so he's in the Chicago GGs. He won the first fight with a stoppage in the 2nd rd, and won the 2nd with a stopage in the 1st round. He's fighting the championship on 4/10/10......And he did beat Lucies last year in Terre Haute and beat him for the 2nd time in GG, but the fight was given to Lucies in Indianapolis.

Does anyone know much about the guy Wynten is boxing in the finals, Armando Pina? I know that he is ranked #8 in USA.
178 will be interesting. Browne from NY, Shabazz, Brant, Ellis/Pina, Geffrard, Spencer, Anthony, etc. Actually, I don't think Shabazz will be in the GG and I'm not sure about some of the others. There will probably be a bunch of new stars too.

Pina is a technician and a good one. Wynten actually has some ring rust from laying off 9 months, but he look good at times. If Wynten box Pina anything like he spares when he's sparring with some of the pros, Wynten will win.

[Jma05]

no but im talking about that i see it alot in international scoring results. alot of matches are ending with the score of like 2-0 and 1-0. you see it all the time now in results

[Dennis]

A lot of judges think that they are doing a better job if they keep the scoring artificially low. I prefer the judges to score all of the "scoring blows". I also don't like it when some judges count punches that are not "scoring blows" such as fouls - hitting behind the head, slapping with the inside of the glove (not the knuckle portion), holding and hitting, etc.

[WBoxing]

What's going on. I'm Wynten's uncle. Wynten has a elbow injury that has kept him out of the ring for about 9 months. They were too late to sign him up for the Indiana GG, so he's in the Chicago GGs. He won the first fight with a stoppage in the 2nd rd, and won the 2nd with a stopage in the 1st round. He's fighting the championship on 4/10/10......And he did beat Lucies last year in Terre Haute and beat him for the 2nd time in GG, but the fight was given to Lucies in Indianapolis.

Does anyone know much about the guy Wynten is boxing in the finals, Armando Pina? I know that he is ranked #8 in USA.
178 will be interesting. Browne from NY, Shabazz, Brant, Ellis/Pina, Geffrard, Spencer, Anthony, etc. Actually, I don't think Shabazz will be in the GG and I'm not sure about some of the others. There will probably be a bunch of new stars too.

Geffrard is going to the gloves at 201. He recently defeated Kevin Baker to advance to regionals in Florida.