WBC-title Super Middle Beyer-Green on Saturday

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 08 Mar 2005, 11:51

who will win this?

both are KO punchers. Green is dangerous in the first 4 rounds. if the fight will last longer, i would give Beyer more chances.

I think Markus wins KO 6 or 7.

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 08 Mar 2005, 11:55

Green in 8.

rockinchair · Post by **rockinchair** » 08 Mar 2005, 12:10

what the hell are you talking about? Beyer is definitely not a KO puncher. Beyer's problem is his chin. Do you remember this third class Japanese fighter flooring him with a very weak punch?
I really think that Green will destroy Beyer in rounds 2 to 4, but I am sure Don Sauerland payed judges +referee and therefore we will see a scandalous decision (draw in the first rounds, DQ, ...). That's why I will put some money on Beyer in order to make sure I am not so angry on Saturday.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 08 Mar 2005, 12:17

rockinchair wrote: what the hell are you talking about? Beyer is definitely not a KO puncher. Beyer's problem is his chin. Do you remember this third class Japanese fighter flooring him with a very weak punch?
I really think that Green will destroy Beyer in rounds 2 to 4, but I am sure Don Sauerland payed judges +referee and therefore we will see a scandalous decision (draw in the first rounds, DQ, ...). That's why I will put some money on Beyer in order to make sure I am not so angry on Saturday.

the diference between the old and the "new" Beyer is that he stands up after a knockdown. and this Jap was not third class. his punch wasn´t bad and the WBC doesn´t rank a Jap #14 for being crap. Beyer also came back in the 2nd Sanavia-fight.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 08 Mar 2005, 12:38

Beyer is a good enough puncher to knock out Green if Green shoots his load early..... He dropped Woodhall who had shown a great chin before that fight and after that fight

Green has to take a gamble...
does he risk all in going for the early knock out (if he doesnt get it Beyer will stop him late) or does he box clever and risk getting the wrong end of a home decision????

hard to call, i am still unchanged from my earlier call of Green before 5, Beyer after 5.....

BTW Did Green get stopped or outclassed by lebziak in Sydney??? anyone remember the fight????

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 08 Mar 2005, 12:48

ok, to answer my own question, Lebziak outclassed him apparently and the fight was stopped in the 4th

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Mar 2005, 13:03

Green will knock him out in the early rounds. He was well on his way to doing so first time round until the dodgy DQ.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 08 Mar 2005, 13:03

It will be interesting to see if Beyer stands his ground.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 08 Mar 2005, 13:12

jamesmcdonnell wrote:It will be interesting to see if Beyer stands his ground.

Beyer would be foolish to go toe to toe with Green.... he needs to get on his toes early and keep Green from planting his feet...

Beyer has good footwork so should use it....

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 08 Mar 2005, 13:46

knockout wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:It will be interesting to see if Beyer stands his ground.
Beyer would be foolish to go toe to toe with Green.... he needs to get on his toes early and keep Green from planting his feet...

Beyer has good footwork so should use it....

absolutely agree. after round 5 Green will be done.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 08 Mar 2005, 13:58

I'm saying Beyer in this one. I don't believe he would have taken the rematch if he didn't think he could win.

Beyer is actually the underdog which can't be bad bearing in mind the fight's in germany. i might back him.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Mar 2005, 14:29

If you've seen the first fight I can't see how you can back Beyer to win.

armageto · Post by **armageto** » 08 Mar 2005, 14:49

I think Green, TKO in the 4th round........

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 09 Mar 2005, 06:47

nickd wrote:If you've seen the first fight I can't see how you can back Beyer to win.

it´s a whole new ballgame now.

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 09 Mar 2005, 07:36

knockout wrote:ok, to answer my own question, Lebziak outclassed him apparently and the fight was stopped in the 4th

Where did u get that information i watched the fight live.

Green was winning the fight into the second round when he broke his right hand, After that Lebziak took over and Green ended up with a broken nose as well as a broken hand but still finished the fight on his feet.

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 09 Mar 2005, 07:39

BubiScholz wrote:
knockout wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:It will be interesting to see if Beyer stands his ground.
Beyer would be foolish to go toe to toe with Green.... he needs to get on his toes early and keep Green from planting his feet...

Beyer has good footwork so should use it....
absolutely agree. after round 5 Green will be done.

Bubi have you watched the Green-Lucas fight, Green paced himself for the first 4 rounds then totally flogged Lucas and stopped him in the 6th and was still fresh after the fight.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 09 Mar 2005, 07:41

BubiScholz wrote:
nickd wrote:If you've seen the first fight I can't see how you can back Beyer to win.
it´s a whole new ballgame now.

I really dont think so Bubi, Beyer was floored heavily by that Jap guy who is nowhere near the puncher Green is. All this talk of a 'new' Beyer as soon as he starts getting clobbered by Green again he'll be the same Beyer as before I think!

dbf · Post by **dbf** » 09 Mar 2005, 07:46

come on fellas, the term "jap" isnt a particularly nice one. Japanese really isnt that much of an effort is it?

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 09 Mar 2005, 07:51

Beyer went 3rd, 4th, 5th rounds without being dropped so must have been taking Greens shots better.....and the cuts must really have been affected him ..

I say if he gets through the few couple without being dropped or cut he will do ok...

I know its hard to see Beyer surviving, but imagine if fights like Tyson V holyfield or Dunstan v Thompson had been stopped in the early by a cut/Dq you would have assumed that Tyson and Dunstan would have won and cleared favoured them in a rematch

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 09 Mar 2005, 07:53

dbf wrote:come on fellas, the term "jap" isnt a particularly nice one. Japanese really isnt that much of an effort is it?

it is and effort

but in all seriousness, would a japanese find it offensive?? i mean if your called a british guy a brit he wouldnt mind.....

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 09 Mar 2005, 08:32

knockout wrote:Beyer went 3rd, 4th, 5th rounds without being dropped so must have been taking Greens shots better.....and the cuts must really have been affected him ..

I say if he gets through the few couple without being dropped or cut he will do ok...

I know its hard to see Beyer surviving, but imagine if fights like Tyson V holyfield or Dunstan v Thompson had been stopped in the early by a cut/Dq you would have assumed that Tyson and Dunstan would have won and cleared favoured them in a rematch

After the first 2 rounds he didn't want to fight and held a lot.

dbf · Post by **dbf** » 09 Mar 2005, 08:53

knockout wrote:
dbf wrote:come on fellas, the term "jap" isnt a particularly nice one. Japanese really isnt that much of an effort is it?
it is and effort

but in all seriousness, would a japanese find it offensive?? i mean if your called a british guy a brit he wouldnt mind.....

actually yes,i think most would find it offensive, but i wasnt trying to kick off mate. "Jap" holds racist connotations similar to that of the abbrev. of Pakistan. Anyways, soz for drifting off topic.

Beyer you say? I reckon hes got some tricks up his sleeve or this one and green feels like he can(or has to, because of the judges) just walk through him. This is an interesting one.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 09 Mar 2005, 09:02

BubiScholz wrote:
I think Markus wins KO 6 or 7.

according to the rules, you can't bring in a base ball bat. but the WBC do have other stupid rules

rockinchair · Post by **rockinchair** » 09 Mar 2005, 10:04

this is a short review of the first fight

http://www.boxen.com/stream/beyer_green ... en_dsl.asf this is amazing. the German comment is ...

have a look! 8)

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 09 Mar 2005, 10:07

REAL_DEAL wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
I think Markus wins KO 6 or 7.
according to the rules, you can't bring in a base ball bat. but the WBC do have other stupid rules

as you can see, i´m not the only one who gives Markus a KO chance. just wait and see.

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