Tonights undercard

states · Post by **states** » 03 Apr 2010, 16:40

Groves-Adamu was stopped early. But Groves was really impressive there.

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 03 Apr 2010, 16:42

I enjoyed watching Groves. He's exciting to watch.

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 03 Apr 2010, 17:00

Had groves by stoppage at evens, was starting to get a little worried, on Lynes to get stopped here.

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 03 Apr 2010, 17:06

13/8, just think he may unravel from round 8 onwards.

lefthook82 · Post by **lefthook82** » 03 Apr 2010, 17:25

@Hagler, you need to start pm'img me your tips. Your on fire

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 03 Apr 2010, 17:46

The Groves fight was really good, but f**k me Colin Lynes just stunk the place out.

He's about as exciting to watch as Matthew Barney used to be. Why on earth they selected him as the main undercard fight I don't know, but I can't believe he'll be picked again.

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 03 Apr 2010, 18:05

lefthook82 wrote:@Hagler, you need to start pm'img me your tips. Your on fire

I usually post them up on the board but some people seem to take offense

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 03 Apr 2010, 18:24

Loftgroov wrote:The Groves fight was really good, but f**k me Colin Lynes just stunk the place out.

He's about as exciting to watch as Matthew Barney used to be. Why on earth they selected him as the main undercard fight I don't know, but I can't believe he'll be picked again.

Styles make fights - when Colin is in with an orthodox fighter who is there to be timed with the jab, he can look absolutely magic.

Oluguson was all wrong for him stylistically.

whicker · Post by **whicker** » 03 Apr 2010, 21:53

The televised undercard was pretty weak, as it happens. The "African opponent" was disappointing (no surprise there, then) , and it was an early stoppage considering it was a title fight.

The Olusegun fight was OK, bit of an odd ending , too.

Moore, shown as "filler" was a much better fight, shame he lost.

Friends I was with had paid their share of the PPV, but didn't watch the undercard.

Other resluts (going off box rec:

Well done Ancliffe on picking up a win.

Carl Dilks won by a KO, and Randall and McDonagh both won on points.

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 04 Apr 2010, 02:14

Aye that was weird how Lynes finished, retching and all that... apparently he was sick in the Daws fight but somehow I cant recall that... he said hes going up to 147 but maybe its time to call it a day...

I said Moore's fight wasn't a bad one lol, thats a big scalp for Khomitsky.

FtmPress · Post by **FtmPress** » 04 Apr 2010, 03:31

mickey1975 wrote:
MatthewS wrote:I bet the purse for the mains was less, allowing the undercard more room... like I said the last show Warren had that had a main even this big was before Khan turned pro
Fair enough,Heavys get paid more.There is a lot of fingers in the pie tonight.David's purse will be all about the numbers tonight,hence him doing more chat shows than training in the last few weeks!Fwank co-promoted Lewis-Botha,and i bet he paid them more than what they are getting tonight,due to U.S t.v(which Khan-Kotelnik had...),and that was ten years ago!!P.R expert Haye,hobothaw he has gone from fighting in Huddersfield in front of 200 people to SBO in front of 22,000 is remarkable.

Are you saying Frank W co-promoted Lewis's homecoming i think you might be wrong there. He held promotional rights over Botha so the deal for Botha was done with him but he was not Co-promoter.

slipandmove · Post by **slipandmove** » 04 Apr 2010, 05:15

undercard was better than expected it was sad to see moore beat lik that, ancliffe beat gonzalez well, lynes didnt look fit,groves waz class act, haye fight was brill great night

bulldog10 · Post by **bulldog10** » 04 Apr 2010, 21:27

slipandmove wrote:undercard was better than expected it was sad to see moore beat lik that, ancliffe beat gonzalez well, lynes didnt look fit,groves waz class act, haye fight was brill great night

landing what clean, very scrappy offair whilst ancliff was throwing anything , slapping and alot of back of head shots but missed continuously, gonzalez was calm and definately more precise making ancliff miss alot or blocking the shot behind good defence, ancliff throwing wild, missing alot, very poor ugly fight but cleaner punches although not alot of them were by gonzalez, you can throw 20 punches a minute but if your not landing clean doesnt win the round as to if someone throws 10 and lands 5 clean. round 1 gonzalez, round 2 clear gonzalez, round 3 close but cleaner by gonzalez, with 4 even nothing really landing by either fighter, all out aggression doesnt win a fight its what lands clean, i really didnt see for as much wild stuff ancliff through what was landing clean on gonzalez i saw gonzalez making him miss and blocking punches well, poor fight though gonzalez is much better than his performance

my favourite prospect groves, outstanding again, great future

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 05 Apr 2010, 03:49

bulldog10 wrote:
slipandmove wrote:undercard was better than expected it was sad to see moore beat lik that, ancliffe beat gonzalez well, lynes didnt look fit,groves waz class act, haye fight was brill great night
landing what clean, very scrappy offair whilst ancliff was throwing anything , slapping and alot of back of head shots but missed continuously, gonzalez was calm and definately more precise making ancliff miss alot or blocking the shot behind good defence, ancliff throwing wild, missing alot, very poor ugly fight but cleaner punches although not alot of them were by gonzalez, you can throw 20 punches a minute but if your not landing clean doesnt win the round as to if someone throws 10 and lands 5 clean. round 1 gonzalez, round 2 clear gonzalez, round 3 close but cleaner by gonzalez, with 4 even nothing really landing by either fighter, all out aggression doesnt win a fight its what lands clean, i really didnt see for as much wild stuff ancliff through what was landing clean on gonzalez i saw gonzalez making him miss and blocking punches well, poor fight though gonzalez is much better than his performance

my favourite prospect groves, outstanding again, great future

This is the single most biased post I've ever read on here. Gonzalez did nothing for four rounds. Looked like someone has been telling him he's the business and just had to step in the ring to win. Ancliff won out of sight.

mickey1975 · Post by **mickey1975** » 05 Apr 2010, 04:59

FtmPress wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
MatthewS wrote:I bet the purse for the mains was less, allowing the undercard more room... like I said the last show Warren had that had a main even this big was before Khan turned pro
Fair enough,Heavys get paid more.There is a lot of fingers in the pie tonight.David's purse will be all about the numbers tonight,hence him doing more chat shows than training in the last few weeks!Fwank co-promoted Lewis-Botha,and i bet he paid them more than what they are getting tonight,due to U.S t.v(which Khan-Kotelnik had...),and that was ten years ago!!P.R expert Haye,hobothaw he has gone from fighting in Huddersfield in front of 200 people to SBO in front of 22,000 is remarkable.
Are you saying Frank W co-promoted Lewis's homecoming i think you might be wrong there. He held promotional rights over Botha so the deal for Botha was done with him but he was not Co-promoter.

Well,you know better than anyone.I knew he was involved,and just presumed,considering who he is,that it was on the promotional side.I stand corrected.

bulldog10 · Post by **bulldog10** » 05 Apr 2010, 05:41

This is the single most biased post I've ever read on here. Gonzalez did nothing for four rounds. Looked like someone has been telling him he's the business and just had to step in the ring to win. Ancliff won out of sight.[/quote

you don't win a fight a working hard, it's what scores, the cleaner work, throwing falling short slapping the back of the head don't win a fight, does it? Gonzalez did throw as many punches and didn't box like he can but was controlling the rushing with good defence and snapped ancliffs head back with good shits early , round 4 on YouTube what lands clean

chris s · Post by **chris s** » 05 Apr 2010, 05:58

bulldog10 wrote:This is the single most biased post I've ever read on here. Gonzalez did nothing for four rounds. Looked like someone has been telling him he's the business and just had to step in the ring to win. Ancliff won out of sight.[/quote

you don't win a fight a working hard, it's what scores, the cleaner work, throwing falling short slapping the back of the head don't win a fight, does it? Gonzalez did throw as many punches and didn't box like he can but was controlling the rushing with good defence and snapped ancliffs head back with good shits early , round 4 on YouTube what lands clean

Gonzalez was terrible and jolted Ancliff's head back once. I thought Ancliff won clearly

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 05 Apr 2010, 07:04

bulldog10 wrote: snapped ancliffs head back with good shits early

That would snap my head back as well lol

bulldog10 · Post by **bulldog10** » 05 Apr 2010, 07:10

MatthewS wrote:
bulldog10 wrote: snapped ancliffs head back with good shits early
That would snap my head back as well lol

lol,

slipandmove · Post by **slipandmove** » 05 Apr 2010, 12:54

ancliffe won it out the park end of gonzalez laned about 3 jabs the whole fight and never threw a right hand once!
ancliffe waz tight and kept the pressure on the whole fight

bulldog10 · Post by **bulldog10** » 05 Apr 2010, 13:10

slipandmove wrote:ancliffe won it out the park end of gonzalez laned about 3 jabs the whole fight and never threw a right hand once!
ancliffe waz tight and kept the pressure on the whole fight

well you didnt see the fight pal, 3 jabs!, gonzalez had the tight defence and land quite a few rights, he also made ancliff miss a whole lot, go youtube round 4 there tell me ancliff was tight (my arse) let me no if hit lands one clean punch buddy

bulldog10 · Post by **bulldog10** » 05 Apr 2010, 13:14

it was a crap figth, one guy running in throwing wild slaps, the other moving around making him miss, clean work is what counts and ancliff landed on hold and hitting in back of head while gonzalez landed better quality, not alot of punches but much better quality, round 4 tell me a jab and clean punches ancliff lands please,

slipandmove · Post by **slipandmove** » 05 Apr 2010, 13:25

everyone will have there own opnion of what wins fights but 40-37 against the home fighter says alot in my book!

slapbangwhallop · Post by **slapbangwhallop** » 05 Apr 2010, 13:52

Well its my video of Ancliff and Gonzalez on YouTube - I didnt want to put more up incase I upset the promoter by putting all four rounds up.

Adrian is a good guy and I wanted him to win because he lives for boxing - but I think that maybe there is a danger he was thinking that its only about boxing skill. What I mean is that its a fight, the other guy isnt going to want to let a class boxer like Adrian get into his rhythm and to Ancliff's credit he didnt let him do that. Adrian needed to be a bit more aggressive and not just allow Ancliff fight his fight.

I suppose from the refs perspective you is going to score what he likes but I scored it a draw. Ancliff was scrappy and threw scuffing non scoring shots which Adrian either ducked, slipped or rolled away from and he was almost just running into Adrian at times.

Gonzalez was more measured and accurate and cleaner with his work - he just needed to be a little more authorative.

If anyone else wants me to upload the remainder of the fight just ask.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4imUwMD0k4

jonp · Post by **jonp** » 05 Apr 2010, 14:16

there was noone at ringside who wasnt an involved party who thought Adrian won.

Dave coldwell the promoter knew hed lost and i know lee and would love to sayit wasadodgy decision but it just wasnt

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