Classic American West Coast Boxing

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iskigoe wrote:Happy Easter and God bless. I don,t reply often but always check in and enjoy.

Frank I just found a new picture of Hype with Joe Louis and Babe Ruth. Hype is standing
between them as they square off. I will send it to you soon so you can share it.

Kevin
Happl Easter to you and yours, Kevin.

Do send the pic and I'll post it...

Thanks
Frank
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THEHAMMER321 wrote:
Randyman wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
They never learn, do they?
They have only one chance to make big money, and no chance of keeping it.
The bling of boxers is the most disgusting of all. 24Kt Ignorance.

-Rick Farris
All the money in the world can't give a guy class. :shame:
you got that right Randy you either got it or you don't and even though I never met anybody on this thread in person but I am sure I will in the future I can say with certainty that all the regular posters on here are class acts :TU:

Yeah Paul, even "Uncle John" has class. Well, kinda :lol:
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Was it old Blue eyes that sang "you've either got or you haven't got Class",Why is it that so many of these kids that pull on the gloves who are mostly street wise kids find it impossible to hang on to their money, this is not a modern day thing it goes right back it can't all be down to the crooks some of the responsibility must be with the boxer, how many times do you hear a manager say about a boxer " he's like a son to me" then you read the kid ends up without a pot
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Our third holiday . . .

Happy Easter guys! This is the third Easter since we've been posting here.
I was involved with a couple threads in the past that did very well.
On the CBZ Forum, we had Hap Navarro's History of California Boxing thread and the Rodolfo "El Gato" Gonzalez thread.
Much of the great info contained in both was lost due to a web site problem (?).
I doubted we could ever come up with anything as good.
I get a phone call from Frank and he invites me to a new forum on the Boxrec site.
It was a thread relating to Ernie "Indian Red" Lopez, started by Ex Pug, Brian Higgins.
There were a couple good guys posting, and Frank, and then a few vets from the CBZ, and the AOL Forum.
In short order we had some momentum. Some great stories, real inside tales about true legends, verterans, club fighters, prelim kids, etc.
We had a few A-Holes, like those who show up on every site. We ran them off like Howie used to run off the bums who'd enter the Main St. Gym.
We have a resident artist, who may be on hiatus at the moment, but his classic art graces many of our pages.
We have former world champ that pops in, a record holding consecutive KO artist. Two major Halls of Fame are represented.
Great suppoort from the Boxrec staff. We have become an intitution of sorts.
We are the biggest and best boxing thread on the Net. Name just one that comes close?


-Rick Farris
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Jim Murray . . .

Frank thanks for the Murray article. Jim Murray is my all-time favorite sports writer.
Allan Malamud is a close second, but Murray the best I ever read.
What a great man, and could he write boxing! He was a throw back to a greater era, in fact, he lived that era.
I need to buy that book about Murray, a collection of his brilliant stories. You learn when you read Jim Murray.
Murray will put you in a time machine and take you right to the time and place he is covering.
Jim Murray made his readers feel like participants. I believe that's important.
Jim Murray, now that's class!


-Rick Farris
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Rick Farris wrote:Jim Murray . . .

Frank thanks for the Murray article. Jim Murray is my all-time favorite sports writer.
Allan Malamud is a close second, but Murray the best I ever read.
What a great man, and could he write boxing! He was a throw back to a greater era, in fact, he lived that era.
I need to buy that book about Murray, a collection of his brilliant stories. You learn when you read Jim Murray.
Murray will put you in a time machine and take you right to the time and place he is covering.
Jim Murray made his readers feel like participants. I believe that's important.
Jim Murray, now that's class!


-Rick Farris
You're welcome Rick.... :TU:
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USC Football I remember best . . .

Mike Garrett, O.J., Anthony Davis, Ricky Bell, Pat Haden, Lynn Swann, Charley White, Sam Cunningham, Coach McKay and of course, Marcus Allen.
Once in awhile a Reggie Bush comes along, but Pete Carroll and the rest didn't have the classic quotes of Coach John McKay.
Charlie and I are waiting for the next Trojan super team. :witzend:
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Happy Easter to all my friends on CAWCB..... :bow:
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Rick Farris wrote:USC Football I remember best . . .

Mike Garrett, O.J., Anthony Davis, Ricky Bell, Pat Haden, Lynn Swann, Charley White, Sam Cunningham, Coach McKay and of course, Marcus Allen.
Once in awhile a Reggie Bush comes along, but Pete Carroll and the rest didn't have the classic quotes of Coach John McKay.
Charlie and I are waiting for the next Trojan super team. :witzend:
I think you and Charlie are going to have a long wait..... :witzend:
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Happy Easter to all my friends here.

We've been enjoying our time with Andrew. We'll be having our Easter dinner here today.

You guys have a great day!

Randy :TU:
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David Haye :bow:
Now lets put an end to the Lurch Brothers!

Bernard Hopkins :TU:
Thanks for driving the last nail into Roy Jones coffin.
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Rick Farris wrote:Our third holiday . . .

Happy Easter guys! This is the third Easter since we've been posting here.
I was involved with a couple threads in the past that did very well.
On the CBZ Forum, we had Hap Navarro's History of California Boxing thread and the Rodolfo "El Gato" Gonzalez thread.
Much of the great info contained in both was lost due to a web site problem (?).
I doubted we could ever come up with anything as good.
I get a phone call from Frank and he invites me to a new forum on the Boxrec site.
It was a thread relating to Ernie "Indian Red" Lopez, started by Ex Pug, Brian Higgins.
There were a couple good guys posting, and Frank, and then a few vets from the CBZ, and the AOL Forum.
In short order we had some momentum. Some great stories, real inside tales about true legends, verterans, club fighters, prelim kids, etc.
We had a few A-Holes, like those who show up on every site. We ran them off like Howie used to run off the bums who'd enter the Main St. Gym.
We have a resident artist, who may be on hiatus at the moment, but his classic art graces many of our pages.
We have former world champ that pops in, a record holding consecutive KO artist. Two major Halls of Fame are represented.
Great suppoort from the Boxrec staff. We have become an intitution of sorts.
We are the biggest and best boxing thread on the Net. Name just one that comes close?


-Rick Farris
:TU: :TU: :TU: :TU:
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Randyman wrote:Happy Easter to all my friends here.

We've been enjoying our time with Andrew. We'll be having our Easter dinner here today.

You guys have a great day!

Randy :TU:
Back to you, Randy..... :TU:
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Randyman wrote:Happy Easter to all my friends here.

We've been enjoying our time with Andrew. We'll be having our Easter dinner here today.

You guys have a great day!

Randy :TU:

Same to you Randy. Tell Jeri hello from Monica and I.
Have a great day with your son!
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I don't know about you guys but I'm glad I didn't buy last nights fight between Hopkins and Jones. From what I read it was a lousy foul infested fight.

I have nothing against Hopkins (not too much) but I always felt Jones was way overrated. At the very least I'm glad Hopkins got his revenge.

Randy :confused:
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Rick Farris wrote:
Randyman wrote:Happy Easter to all my friends here.

We've been enjoying our time with Andrew. We'll be having our Easter dinner here today.

You guys have a great day!

Randy :TU:

Same to you Randy. Tell Jeri hello from Monica and I.
Have a great day with your son!
Thanks Rick, I'll tell her. We're all going to church this morning. It took a little work but we got Andrew to go with us.

Randy
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Thomas Hearns Sells Treasured Memorabilia To Satisfy Debt To IRS

Thomas Hearns, at auction, rolls with punches

Former champion sells treasured memorabilia to satisfy debt to IRS

Sad!!

BY MIKE BRUDENELL
FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Auction was billed "Battle of His Life," and fight legend Thomas Hearns admitted to feeling jolted at first.

But Hearns, who never ducked a war in the ring, wasn't about to buckle Saturday as he watched many of his most cherished boxing and personal possessions offered at the Auction Block on Greenfield in Detroit to help pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in back taxes to the IRS.
An eight-time world champion, Hearns (61-5-1 with 48 knockouts) also is in danger of losing his house in Southfield, reportedly owing about $500,000 to the bank.
"I'm very sad today, but I'm going to fulfill my obligations to the IRS," said Hearns, 51, the once-skinny kid from the Kronk Gym who helped revive boxing in the Motor City with his devastating second-round TKO over Pipino Cuevas at Joe Louis Arena on Aug. 2, 1980. "Some of my robes were from my fights with Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Marvin Hagler. I have to do what I can. They (the IRS) have been very good to me. This will turn out all right. When you owe, you must pay."
About 2:45 p.m., the first of nearly 100 Hearns items -- Lot 179, a silk boxing robe -- was offered to the large crowd. It was sold for $900 after bidding began at $200.
Bob Ryder, 55, of Warren had his eye on Lot 182 -- a white robe with "Winner Take All" on the back. Ryder believed it was the robe Hearns wore into the ring against Sugar Ray Leonard in their epic first fight at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas in September 1981, when Leonard won by a 14th-round TKO.
"I was at the fight," Ryder said of what many regard as the greatest welterweight bout of all time. "I want to help Tommy out today. Just the memories of that night in Las Vegas make it worth the money I might be spending."
Ryder outbid the group, getting the Hit Man's robe for $1,100.
Hearns, who watched the bidding from a balcony in the auction room with family members and his longtime promoter and friend Harley Brown, wasn't hiding behind his championship belts.
"If you have debt, you pay it off," he said. "You have to confront the problem head on. I'm not going to run or dodge this. It is most important to straighten out this situation. Get past this position. I'm very appreciative of all the people who have shown me love."
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Dozens of Hearns items, including robes, boxing trunks, shoes, gloves, headgear, personal watercraft, ATVs and motorcycles, were offered at Saturday's auction. Even a 47-foot Fountain sport boat, which Hearns used on the Great Lakes last year, and a 1957 Chevy were listed.



The Chevy attracted John Patterson, 62, and his son, Eric, 37, of Dearborn. The pair looked it over in the auction room before the bidding.

"Tommy and Mickey Goodwin -- who can forget them?" said John, a real estate agent. "I followed the fight game, and Hearns was at the forefront."

The older Patterson found it hard to believe that Hearns, who made more than $40 million during his career, could be in debt. "You overspend, I guess," said Patterson. "You see it happening everywhere. The whole country appears be underwater."

Hearns, who said he would like to meet former light-heavyweight champion Antonio Tarver, 41, in a comeback fight, agreed he made a fortune.

"I made a lot of money in boxing," said Hearns, whose last fight was Feb. 4, 2006, at the Palace, when he beat Shannon Landsberg by TKO. "But as a man who had a large family, people looked at you as their savior. You tried to help them by giving. It doesn't stop. I'm the big brother -- I give and I give."

Hearns said, sooner of later, the money dries up.

"I learned my lesson," said Hearns. "Of course, when it is time for some people to give back to you, they're long gone."

Hearns had only appreciation for his fans here, however.

"Detroit truly loves Tommy Hearns," he said. "Many of my fans have reached out, trying to do what they can. I've turned some help down. I learned from a young age that you got to go out and earn what you want yourself."
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Rick Farris wrote:Jim Murray . . .

Frank thanks for the Murray article. Jim Murray is my all-time favorite sports writer.
Allan Malamud is a close second, but Murray the best I ever read.
What a great man, and could he write boxing! He was a throw back to a greater era, in fact, he lived that era.
I need to buy that book about Murray, a collection of his brilliant stories. You learn when you read Jim Murray.
Murray will put you in a time machine and take you right to the time and place he is covering.
Jim Murray made his readers feel like participants. I believe that's important.
Jim Murray, now that's class!


-Rick Farris
I agree Rick, Murray was the best. Is there anyone like him anymore? :bow:
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Randyman wrote:I don't know about you guys but I'm glad I didn't buy last nights fight between Hopkins and Jones. From what I read it was a lousy foul infested fight.

I have nothing against Hopkins (not too much) but I always felt Jones was way overrated. At the very least I'm glad Hopkins got his revenge.

Randy :confused:
I don't like either one as a fighters.
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Hey guys, and happy Easter to all of you :wink:
keep up the good work on making this thread one of the best reads on the net :TU:

Yesterday i tried to watch a live stream of my countries latest addition to the proffesional ranks put on a freak show performance, But the stream got overloaded by hordes of people watching(unlike any other fight in my country, where professional boxing is banned) Well the young heavyweight in question is a former strongman contestant and really cant fight for sh!t and put on a stinker as he has been boxing for a mere year . Its a sad state of things when our only prospect ,a all action featherweight with charisma in buckets barely make the paper when he wins an intercontinental titel(its not worth anything, but few know that over here) barely gets mentioned in the papers and goes unnoticed while a freakshow gets all the attention and turns people of the sport.
Its going to be a long way back to getting profesional boxing unbanned :(

Well my post was really of topic,but i didnt know where else to post it since this thread cover anything from family relations to food aswell as the inside stories of boxing i love so much ;;-)
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Happy Easter to everyone on this thread :bow:
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Panzerfaust wrote:Hey guys, and happy Easter to all of you :wink:
keep up the good work on making this thread one of the best reads on the net :TU:

Yesterday i tried to watch a live stream of my countries latest addition to the proffesional ranks put on a freak show performance, But the stream got overloaded by hordes of people watching(unlike any other fight in my country, where professional boxing is banned) Well the young heavyweight in question is a former strongman contestant and really cant fight for sh!t and put on a stinker as he has been boxing for a mere year . Its a sad state of things when our only prospect ,a all action featherweight with charisma in buckets barely make the paper when he wins an intercontinental titel(its not worth anything, but few know that over here) barely gets mentioned in the papers and goes unnoticed while a freakshow gets all the attention and turns people of the sport.
Its going to be a long way back to getting profesional boxing unbanned :(

Well my post was really of topic,but i didnt know where else to post it since this thread cover anything from family relations to food aswell as the inside stories of boxing i love so much ;;-)
You picked a good place to post. Hope to see you here more.
Where are you from?
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Rick Farris wrote:
You picked a good place to post. Hope to see you here more.
Where are you from?
Thank you for kind words, and i reside in Norway in the tourist town of Drøbak some 40 minutes driving outside the capitol.
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Panzerfaust wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
You picked a good place to post. Hope to see you here more.
Where are you from?
Thank you for kind words, and i reside in Norway in the tourist town of Drøbak some 40 minutes driving outside the capitol.

Great to have you here. Anything you wanna post, please do. I was unaware that boxing wasn't legal in Norway.
As you know, we post a lot of West Coast boxing, however, this thread has few limitations relating to boxing.
West Coast boxing, as we knew it to be, eclipsed state borders. West Coast pro boxing was world class boxing.
LA entertained champs and contenders from around the world. Welcome.
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A question for you , Frank and the rest of the guys in here: Did you ever meet Bantam great Pete Sanstøl?he settled in the Long Beach/San Pedro area of California in the early 1960s.
:D
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