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jomothepure
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Bard of Boxrec
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F*** that f*****g pussy b***h motherf**king te*p*t.
Seriously, what a joke. Calzaghe should be totally and utterly ashamed.
The worst part is when Warren said 'This fight would be difficult to sell in England' basically admitting that calzaghe is putting the money before even thinking about what the fans want to see or what makes him look half credible.
He can f**k off. I hope Veit picks up the most stinking, corrupt decision EVER.
BTW... Look for Calzaghe to mysteriously get over his 'fear of flying'.

Seriously, what a joke. Calzaghe should be totally and utterly ashamed.
The worst part is when Warren said 'This fight would be difficult to sell in England' basically admitting that calzaghe is putting the money before even thinking about what the fans want to see or what makes him look half credible.
He can f**k off. I hope Veit picks up the most stinking, corrupt decision EVER.
BTW... Look for Calzaghe to mysteriously get over his 'fear of flying'.
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Lefthookhappy19
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good moeny, easy fight and by then hopefully Woods or johnson will want to fight him joe has fought a few good fighters and been top (In my opion Bubi) for a very long time. Let him take the easy fights as long as he gets a career definer somewher, sometime, please!
Mind you I still enjoy watching him fight, the man has skills.
Mind you I still enjoy watching him fight, the man has skills.
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lirva33
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for fornicate sakes you know fornicate all about boxing.bugs wrote:good moeny, easy fight and by then hopefully Woods or johnson will want to fight him joe has fought a few good fighters and been top (In my opion Bubi) for a very long time. Let him take the easy fights as long as he gets a career definer somewher, sometime, please!
Mind you I still enjoy watching him fight, the man has skills.
Well, despite your detailed and extensive analysis supporting your side of the argument I fear you have afailed to change my mind. What I do know about you however, is that most people on this board seem to disagree with you and your opinions most of the time, so I wont worry too much about your lucid and thought provoking response.
Joe has fought a few good fighters and never lost, Your beloved Witter has fought two and lost once.
Joe has fought a few good fighters and never lost, Your beloved Witter has fought two and lost once.
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Britannian Stallion
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What pisses me off is the constant talk of "career defining fights", that Calzaghe keeps whinging about. If he doesn´t actually want one the he should´nt say he does. Going public to call out Hopkins, who he knows will never bother to face him and pulling out of the Johnson fight??? Wot a piss take.... he wouldn´t travel to Germany to fight Ottke to unify the division (for what probably would have been more money than he will get for Veit), but he´ll travel to make an utterly meaningless defense of his leather strap which won´t get him any respect or earn him the chance of a career defining fight.
If he is just in it for the money and is not bothered about landing the big fights then fine! Well done to him. But if thats the case, then he should stop talking crap about wanting "career defining fights" against the big names because its an insult to all his supporters who´ve put bums on seats and money in his `pocket all these years.
And for him to say that people are running scared of him is a complete load of crap. He doesn´t push for the big fights so he´s never gonna get them. Put up or shut up!!
If he is just in it for the money and is not bothered about landing the big fights then fine! Well done to him. But if thats the case, then he should stop talking crap about wanting "career defining fights" against the big names because its an insult to all his supporters who´ve put bums on seats and money in his `pocket all these years.
And for him to say that people are running scared of him is a complete load of crap. He doesn´t push for the big fights so he´s never gonna get them. Put up or shut up!!
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Bard of Boxrec
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They wouldn't have offered me, because I'd have already vacated the Warren's Bum Organisation title in search of real fights which would make me more money in the long term.Loynesy wrote:I think he'd be a fool not to take it. Someone is offering you nearly 750 K to fight someone you have KOed in the first round, what would you do?
This fight is about as purposeful as a wooden fire grate.
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lirva33
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Do I even need to have an argument? You are the only one with that opinion. "Ah, let joe have an easy fight".bugs wrote:Well, despite your detailed and extensive analysis supporting your side of the argument I fear you have afailed to change my mind. What I do know about you however, is that most people on this board seem to disagree with you and your opinions most of the time, so I wont worry too much about your lucid and thought provoking response.
Joe has fought a few good fighters and never lost, Your beloved Witter has fought two and lost once.
Your post was a joke mate.
I just think its a no brainer for him, pays off the divorce and gives him a pension plan.
I would much rather he stepped up and fought Woods/Tarver/Johnson or went to the US to fight Lacey (and lets face it he should have fought on Showtimes 3-4 years ago when he looked like he really could have achieved things with his career), but it is an incredible payday for an easy nights work. He wouldn't get anywhere near that amount for any of the megafights.
I would much rather he stepped up and fought Woods/Tarver/Johnson or went to the US to fight Lacey (and lets face it he should have fought on Showtimes 3-4 years ago when he looked like he really could have achieved things with his career), but it is an incredible payday for an easy nights work. He wouldn't get anywhere near that amount for any of the megafights.
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jamesmcdonnell
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Sadly, Joe has all the talent in the world, but not the desire to go with it it appears. Since beating Eubank, which was an excellent performance even though Eubank was dissipated, Calzahge has done plenty of talking about getting the big fights, but sweet FA about actually making them happen. He appears to have missed the boat big time with Johnson, and now after turning down Clinton Woods is looking for what he thinks will be an easy route to another title. I think the end of Joe's career is desinted to be a dissapointment, I think Calzaghe is totally content with his level of achievement, and if he can say 'two weight world champion' even though he won that title from probably the weakest champion in the division.
The reason that Calzaghe draws so much flak, is that he had the potential to be something that bit special. Had he had the desire that Nigel Benn had, I think he would be a lot more fondly remembered when he retires, because Calzaghe could have achieved a hell of a lot more than he already has. The bigger the talent, the higher the expectations and the bigger the potential for dissapointment.
The reason that Calzaghe draws so much flak, is that he had the potential to be something that bit special. Had he had the desire that Nigel Benn had, I think he would be a lot more fondly remembered when he retires, because Calzaghe could have achieved a hell of a lot more than he already has. The bigger the talent, the higher the expectations and the bigger the potential for dissapointment.
jamesmcdonnell wrote:The reason that Calzaghe draws so much flak, is that he had the potential to be something that bit special.
And claimes to be so.
Again I have to agree. I know I am not the only big Nigel Benn fan on this forum and I admit he may not have been the best Super-Middleweight in the world when he was fighting but you could never doubt the mans fighting heart and determination. Also unlike Calzaghe he was allways value for money.jamesmcdonnell wrote:Had he had the desire that Nigel Benn had, I think he would be a lot more fondly remembered when he retires,
On the bright side he is leaving Great Briton (yes for the second time) so he may not get every desision his own way. However he is not steping up and not taking much of a risk. I would love to see a british fighter out in america taking on Jeff Lacy for a proper world title (the WBO is boarderline respectible) or stepping up to take on Glen Johnson to be recognised as legitimate No. 1 light heavy. Unfortunoutely judging by the lack of spine we have seen it looks like Im going to have to wait for Froch to get a few more fight befor there is a risk of ever of those things happening.
Did anyone else ntice that in his "Fwankly Speaking" collumn Warren forgot to mention Clinton Woods won a real world title insted choosing to talk about the rocky films.
Did anyone else ntice that in his "Fwankly Speaking" collumn Warren forgot to mention Clinton Woods won a real world title insted choosing to talk about the rocky films.
bugs Posted: 09 Mar 2005 09:16
Well, despite your detailed and extensive analysis supporting your side of the argument I fear you have afailed to change my mind. What I do know about you however, is that most people on this board seem to disagree with you and your opinions most of the time, so I wont worry too much about your lucid and thought provoking response.
Joe has fought a few good fighters and never lost, Your beloved Witter has fought two and lost once.
HAW!
Most people on this board that agree with you are nut hugger’s and the reason their pissed is Calzone’s got no balls to hug.
Lirva serves a good purpose on this board because he the only Brit that keeps U honest.
An opposite point of view is always healthy, otherwise U would all be sitting around wringing your hands with “Aint it awful?” stories.
Does anybody in their right mind believe the WBO mandatory charade?
The correct formula is Sports network + Universum = WBO (World Bums Organization)
BTW, Witter has faced THREE the top 10 rated fighters, Judah, Bergman & Ndou.
How many has Hatton faced?
(Please don’t keep bringing up washed up Tackie & Phillips as neither was in the top 10 ratings.)
Well, despite your detailed and extensive analysis supporting your side of the argument I fear you have afailed to change my mind. What I do know about you however, is that most people on this board seem to disagree with you and your opinions most of the time, so I wont worry too much about your lucid and thought provoking response.
Joe has fought a few good fighters and never lost, Your beloved Witter has fought two and lost once.
HAW!
Lirva serves a good purpose on this board because he the only Brit that keeps U honest.
An opposite point of view is always healthy, otherwise U would all be sitting around wringing your hands with “Aint it awful?” stories.
Does anybody in their right mind believe the WBO mandatory charade?
The correct formula is Sports network + Universum = WBO (World Bums Organization)
BTW, Witter has faced THREE the top 10 rated fighters, Judah, Bergman & Ndou.
How many has Hatton faced?
(Please don’t keep bringing up washed up Tackie & Phillips as neither was in the top 10 ratings.)
That’s only because many well laid plans go awry; Vlad was not expected to loose to Brewster,
Joan Guzman walked out on Warren
and Sturm lost the title to dela Hoya after he was gifted a decision over Velazsco.
They don’t have much talent below the 122 division, so they leave that for the Latinos & Asians.
To get a better measure, look at who has fought in WBO title fights in the past.
Joan Guzman walked out on Warren
and Sturm lost the title to dela Hoya after he was gifted a decision over Velazsco. They don’t have much talent below the 122 division, so they leave that for the Latinos & Asians.
To get a better measure, look at who has fought in WBO title fights in the past.
