Check out this fool selling Hatton tickets

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 09 Mar 2005, 19:49

whats the l;ink for this? interesting to see if anyone pays for them

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 10 Mar 2005, 05:19

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 56424&rd=1

Graham Brett · Post by **Graham Brett** » 10 Mar 2005, 05:54

nickd wrote:Allegedly is a wanker.

Allegedly is always trying to buly websites. He did the same to another site called "out seconds".

He acts like a greedy kid who wants everything for himself.

He doesnt bully matchroom beacause they would tell him to fornicate off.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 10 Mar 2005, 08:18

up t 330 so far... i bet he'll (or she'll) take that for them - double your money

bugs · Post by **bugs** » 10 Mar 2005, 08:55

I would not shell out a few hundred quid to a seller who only has two pieces of feedback, especially since neither of them is for selling. Looks dodgy to me.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 10 Mar 2005, 09:00

your pretty safe with e-bay nowdays, even if he does a runner with our cash the case will betaken up by e-bays in house legal team.

Did you read about that bloke in germany that bought cars, yachts etc... off e-bay, i think his bill was up to a cool million, he claimed in court he didnt remember buying them or that it wasnt him, judge found him guilty and billed him for the items.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 10 Mar 2005, 09:03

A German gardener has been told to cough up almost £1 million by an online auction company after winning bids for a luxury house, expensive car and a small aeroplane were made in his name.

Thomas Vogel, from Munich, said he thought it was a bad joke when he received emails from Ebay telling him he had successfully bid for items totalling £976,000.

The 22-year-old said: "I had to ask my girlfriend to check the emails as I couldn't believe what I was reading."

As well as a large property worth more than £830,000, he had also bought a Mercedes Roadster worth £101,000 and a light aircraft worth £27,000, among other objects.

Mr Vogel immediately told Ebay, and the police, that he had not bid for any of the items but the auctioneers said the contracts had to be honoured.

Ebay spokeswoman Heike Fuss told German newspaper Abendzeitung: "We are very careful to make sure that our security system has no holes in it and that it can't be attacked by hackers.

"In the past there have been one or two similar cases where customers claim not to have bought the goods, but we do not believe it was the work of hackers. More than likely they were not careful with their passwords."

Mr Vogel said he has now started to receive legal notices from the companies whose products he bought through Ebay, demanding that he either pay up or face court action.

He said: "I don't know what I'm going to do or how I'm going to pay. I can't plant that many trees."

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Mar 2005, 09:31

Wales wrote:your pretty safe with e-bay nowdays, even if he does a runner with our cash the case will betaken up by e-bays in house legal team.

Did you read about that bloke in germany that bought cars, yachts etc... off e-bay, i think his bill was up to a cool million, he claimed in court he didnt remember buying them or that it wasnt him, judge found him guilty and billed him for the items.

Sure, but there's no guarantees you will ever see your money again....I personally wouldn't buy them off someone with no standing on ebay, not for items at that value.

s9s · Post by **s9s** » 10 Mar 2005, 12:37

ebay is by no means safe, so if bidding check feedback thorughly. Personally i hate ticket touts (which is what they are) I cant get a ticket to see chitty chitty bang bang (hey my wife loves it not me) but ican buy one form touts at extortionate prices.

If you were feeling wicked you could create accounts and put in stupid bids, and bugger off and leave the bastard with tickets so he can actually go and watch the fight, which is the reason he got them for, not to rip ppl of.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Mar 2005, 12:48

I have to say, I live right near brixton academy, and every night hordes of ticket touts descend on the place.

They are irritating, aggresive and in some cases violent, punching the shit out of some poor student just because he dares to sell his spare ticket to someone looking for one at less than their usually hugely inflated prices, often giving it the large one about how it's 'their patch.'

I don't understand why they are tolerated, they are unlicensed and a fornicating menace half the time, yet I see the police standing chatting to them without a care in the world.

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 10 Mar 2005, 12:59

Wales wrote:A German gardener has been told to cough up almost £1 million by an online auction company after winning bids for a luxury house, expensive car and a small aeroplane were made in his name.

Thomas Vogel, from Munich, said he thought it was a bad joke when he received emails from Ebay telling him he had successfully bid for items totalling £976,000.

The 22-year-old said: "I had to ask my girlfriend to check the emails as I couldn't believe what I was reading."

As well as a large property worth more than £830,000, he had also bought a Mercedes Roadster worth £101,000 and a light aircraft worth £27,000, among other objects.

Mr Vogel immediately told Ebay, and the police, that he had not bid for any of the items but the auctioneers said the contracts had to be honoured.

Ebay spokeswoman Heike Fuss told German newspaper Abendzeitung: "We are very careful to make sure that our security system has no holes in it and that it can't be attacked by hackers.

"In the past there have been one or two similar cases where customers claim not to have bought the goods, but we do not believe it was the work of hackers. More than likely they were not careful with their passwords."

Mr Vogel said he has now started to receive legal notices from the companies whose products he bought through Ebay, demanding that he either pay up or face court action.

He said: "I don't know what I'm going to do or how I'm going to pay. I can't plant that many trees."

ebay's rep says: "....More than likely they were not careful with their passwords."

To me that reads like they are admitting there is a very good chance ("More than likely") the man did not bid for the items himself; and that a person other than him, who had somehow obtained his password, did.

hacking: To gain access to (a computer file or network) illegally or without authorization.

I would say there is plenty of 'reasonable doubt' in this case. The man should maintain his denials and, at the same time, tell ebay to fornicate off. He'll get away with it.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Mar 2005, 13:02

Yes, however, Ebay has military level encryption, which should make hacking passwords extremely difficult.

The implication may be that he left his username and passwords lying around somewhere and someone else used them for a laugh.

My guess was that the silly old fornicator submitted bids for a laugh when pissed, and then forgot all about it thinking nothing would ever come of it.

I fail to see how on earth they can enforce him to pay up. The thing is the court has already ordered him to pay though, so looks like he hasn't got away with it....

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 10 Mar 2005, 13:14

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Yes, however, Ebay has military level encryption, which should make hacking passwords extremely difficult.

They may well have military level encryption, but that means nothing without secure passwords. If the guy had a shit password, like a name or any word in the dictionary, hackers can have it in seconds with readily available software.

e.g if his password was "James" it would take seconds/minutes to find. Whereas if it was "^%James&+" it could take months/years.

Alternatively, his secure question may not have been good if somebody who knew him decided to hack his account for a joke. We saw this with Paris Hilton last month.

What is you favourite pet's name? Tinkerbell. Any bio on her contained that answer.

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 10 Mar 2005, 13:16

By the way, a court hasn't told him he must pay up (or at least it doesn't say that in the article), only ebay have told him he has to.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 10 Mar 2005, 13:33

Actually there are some very sophisticated fraudsters about who can catch you out if you are a member of Ebay. The sort of thing they do is to send you an email claiming to be part of 'ebay security' they tell you some story like your account has been violated and ask you to log into a web page and submit your pass word and account details so that your account can be 'straightened out!'. If you log intothe page they give you a link to it will look just like an ebay page but it is fake and once they have your details they can go ahead and order a years supply of gstrings or what ever in your name and theres not a lot you can do.
I've had this trick tried on me several times... these people are very crafty!...

Slapsie Maxie · Post by **Slapsie Maxie** » 10 Mar 2005, 13:45

Same with banks

I must get at least one a day from people claiming to be the Halifax or Barclays saying they need me to confirm my details

The sites look just like the real thing you work on to go online, but they are just a shell and none of the links work

I know people who have fallen for it. Fortunately, I have not so far

Slapsie