Light Heavyweight Statistics:

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Post by Crease »

As we near the end of the BoxRecSim season... Just 2 more weeks to go.

Let us try to rank the top 10 boxers of this Light Heavyweight Season.

*THIS LIST HAS BEEN REVISED*

1 Tiger Jack Fox (Sav)
Accolades: First man to unify the four major titles
Longest Title Reign. (WBC title, 13 succesful defences)
longest unbeaten streak (22 fights)
The Number One for the longest weeks

Unified Honours:
x2 time Undisputed Champion (Weeks 15, 30)

Individual Titles:
x2 time WBC Champion (Weeks 8, 30)
x2 time WBA Champion (Weeks 11,30)
x2 time WBO Champion (Weeks 15, 30)
x2 time IBF Champion (Weeks 15, 30)
*****

2 Michael Spinks (Kevo)
Accolades: Harry Greb Tournament Champion
First man to beat Fox (In Greb Tourney)
Second man to unify the four major titles
Longest WBU title reign (7 succesful title defences, Weeks 7-15)
Held EVERY World Title

Unified Honours:
x2 time Undisputed Champion (Weeks 29, 37)
x1 time Triple Champion (WBC, WBA, IBF in Week 36)

Individual Titles:
x2 time WBC Champion (Weeks 29, 36)
x2 time WBA Champion (Weeks 29, 36)
x2 time WBO Champion (Weeks 29, 37)
x2 time IBF Champion (Weeks 29, 37)
x1 1 time WBU Champion (Week 7)
*****

3 Bob Foster (Marlin)
Accolades: The man who ended Fox's 22 fight win streak.

Unified Honours:
x2 time Undisputed Champion (Weeks 23, 28)

Individual Titles:
x2 time WBC Champion (Weeks 23,28)
x2 time WBA Champion (Weeks 23,28)
x2 time WBO Champion (Weeks 23,28)
x2 time IBF Champion (Weeks 23,28)
*****

4 Maxie Rosenbloom (BoxBuzz)
Accolades: None

Unified Honours:
x2 time Undisputed Champion (Weeks 25, 32)

Individual Titles:
x2 time WBC Champion (Weeks 25, 32)
x2 time WBA Champion (Weeks 25, 32)
x2 time WBO Champion (Weeks 25, 32)
x3 time IBF Champion (Weeks 11, 25, 32)
*****

5 Joe Calzaghe (Neri)
Accolades: Has held all the major world titles, but never was Undisputed Champion.
Only fighter to have held a World Title 3 times.
Involved in the first undisputed title fight.

Unified Honours:
x1 time Triple Champion (WBC, WBA, IBF in Week 34)
x1 time Double Champion (WBO, IBF in Week 14)

Individual Titles:
x1 time WBC Champion (Week 34)
x1 time WBA Champion (Week 34)
x1 time WBO Champion (Week 13)
x3 time IBF Champion (Weeks 8, 14, 34)
*****

6 Archie Moore(Sav)
Accolades: Held EVERY world title.

Unified Honours:
x1 time Undisputed Champion (Week 38)
x1 time Triple Champion (Week 35)

Individual Titles:
x2 time WBC Champion (Weeks 35, 38)
x2 time WBA Champion (Weeks 35, 38)
x1 time WBO Champion (Week 38)
x1 time IBF Champion (Week 35, 38)
x1 time WBU Champion (Week 20)
*****

7 Jack Dillon (Sockdolager)
Accolades: None.

Unified Honours:
x1 time Undisputed Champion (Week 27)

Individual Titles:
x1 time WBC Champion (Week 27)
x1 time WBA Champion (Week 27)
x1 time WBO Champion (Week 27)
x1 time IBF Champion (Week 27)
*****

8 Virgil Hill (CPU)
Accolades: Best ranked CPU managed boxer.

Unified Honours: None.

Individual Titles:
x1 time WBO champion (Week 11)
x1 time WBU champion (Week 6)
*****

9 Roy Jones JR. (Toppity)
Accolades: Constant Title Challenger

Unified Honours: None

Individual Titles:
x1 time WBO Champion (Week 10)
*****

10 Tommy Gibbons (Fist Of Legend)
Accolades: Steady and regular top 10 fighter throughout season.

Unified Honours: None

Individual Titles:
x1 time WBA champion (Week 8)
*****

Roll of Honour mentions to:
Tommy Loughran - the most avoided fighter in the brs
Gene Tunney - hopefully will win the undisputed title, he deserves it.
Ezzard Charles - A very good fighter, but hasn't won anything worthy of note.
James Toney - 2 time WBU title champion.
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien - 2 time WBU title champion.
Tommy Burns - had a good spell as WBU champion.
Harry Greb - what would we have done if the season were 50 weeks?
Carl Froch - won BRS Super Six World crown. :OhYes:

The Original list from week 32:
1. Fox
2. Foster
3. Rosenbloom
4. Spinks
5. Dillon
6. Calzaghe
7. Hill
8. Mina
9. Jones JR.
10. Gibbons
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Special mention - Gene Tunney has fought human controlled fighters in every one of his 32 fights so far.
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Turkey Talk?

Charles and Bivens may be the unluckiest two in the bunch and fairly universally avoided....and Moore's bad luck streak is only barely eclipsed by TJF remarkable good luck streak.

Conn is just an abysmal bad luck streak. Honestly, his software specs are equal to Maxie's and he can barely get out of his own way.

Calzaghe is the only top performer that is not even rated in TB2.5 as a LHW....only as a SMW. That's an interesting fact.

Foster has had the best run with his rating....he has outperformed his specs rather dramatically.

Charles and Moore should be winning this in a route based purely on the software specs. Though TJF's and Tunney's software are pretty hard to beat as well.

However software has little to do with it. It's all about the nonsims factor.
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Re: Near the End... Who is top 10?

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Crease wrote:As we near the end of the BoxRecSim season... (week 33, maybe only 7 fights to go)...

I would invite each of you, my fellow managers and our legendary commish ( :bow: ) to rank the top 10 boxers of this season...

NOTE: I know the season hasn't yet finished and the titles may change hands a few more times yet.. Perhaps these lists will inspire some interesting fights toward the end.

I shall start first:

1 Tiger Jack Fox (Sav)
Unifed all 4 big titles, 1st Undisputed champion, longest title reign, longets unbeaten streak (20+ matches)

2 Bob Foster (Marlin)
2 time undisputed champion

3 Maxie Rosenbloom (BoxBuzz)
1 time IBF champ, 2 time Undisputed champion

4 Michael Spinks (Kevo)
Harry Greb tournament champion, 1 time WBU title champ (7 title defences), 1 time undisputed champion

5 Jack Dillon (Sockdolager)
1 time Undisputed Champion

6 Joe Calzaghe (Neri)
2 time IBF champion, 1 time WBO champion, involved in the first undisputed title fight.

7 Virgil Hill (CPU)
Best ranked CPU managed boxer... 1 time WBO champ, 1 time WBU champion.

8 Mauro Mina (Adamj1987)
original IBF champion, had 5 successive title defences.

9 Roy Jones JR. (Toppity)
1 time WBO champion, constant title challenger.

10 Tommy Gibbons (Fist Of Legend)
1 time WBA champion, Steady and regular top 10.
I'd omit Mina from that list. He was champion when all our fighters were still in the eliminations. Also, you're giving Adamj false credit - he only managed him after he was Champ.
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Actually I think Rosenbloom has outdone himself in this brs...

If this were reality, I reckon we would all be expecting Charles, Moore, Spinks and Greb to destory everyone... (maybe with the exception fo Jones JR) :TU:
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jBacca wrote:I'd omit Mina from that list. He was champion when all our fighters were still in the eliminations.
I realise that, but still 5 title defences is worty of mentioning...

Mina set a prisedent of sucessfully defending titles... And this as before the days of Fox's reign. :TU:
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Oh Tommy Loughran is another who gets avoided like the plague.
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BoxBuzz wrote:Oh Tommy Loughran is another who gets avoided like the plague.
Thank you very much for noticing this

5 out of the top 10 refuse to fight Loughran so Loughran was forced to face fighters he already fought.
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Grimm wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:Oh Tommy Loughran is another who gets avoided like the plague.
Thank you very much for noticing this

5 out of the top 10 refuse to fight Loughran so Loughran was forced to face fighters he already fought.
It was Tommy that originaly sent Billy Conn to the woodshed, from which he has never returned. An unforgivable act.
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Crease wrote:
jBacca wrote:I'd omit Mina from that list. He was champion when all our fighters were still in the eliminations.
I realise that, but still 5 title defences is worty of mentioning...

Mina set a prisedent of sucessfully defending titles... And this as before the days of Fox's reign. :TU:
Did you see who he fought?

Go to the first weeks and check it out. Once again, all the good fighters were in the eliminators.
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BUMP! :OhYes:
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Excellent work Crease :TU:

One thing I feel I should point out, it was SimSlug Out that steered Virgil Hill towards his two titles, making him the first World Champ of any description in the new era.
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Fantastic work Crease, and pretty much agree with your sentiments! :TU:
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TJF, Spinks and SAV are a lock for the HoF this season.
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Very good list Crease. We at Pink Feather Promtions are proud of what we have achieved in a very fierce and competitive divison.
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Just seen this now, must have taken you ages, Crease. Fair play a chara! :TU:
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This list is balls, like most of this season. Charles has fought just about everyone and never backed down from a challenge. Loughran the most avoided fighter....I think not.......

Fox- 0-1 against him, would say he is higher than Charles
Spinks- 1-3 against him, would say he's higher than Charles
Foster- 1-1-1 against him. Didn't want to sign rematch after last close fight. I'd rate Charles higher
Rosenbloom- 0-0-1, give me a break. Fought bums, Charles is higher
Calzaghe- 0-1, lost a close fight, would rate Joe higher
Moore- Never fought him. Rate Moore a little higher
Dillon- 3-1 against him, would rate Charles higher
Hill- 1-0 against him, Charles is rated higher
Jones Jr.- Never fought him and called him out a few times. Rated the same, at worst
Gibbons- 1-0 against him, rated the same at worst.

Stop looking at belts and instead people's overall body of work.

Kevo, Sav, JBacca and a few others have been honorable managers this year. Unfortunately there have been more shyt bags than usual.
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armageto wrote:Kevo, Sav, JBacca and a few others have been honorable managers this year. Unfortunately there have been more shyt bags than usual.
I agree. I like to call it the 'BA&N* Syndrome'







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kevo wrote:Excellent work Crease :TU:
jBacca wrote:Fantastic work Crease, and pretty much agree with your sentiments! :TU:
Neri wrote:Very good list Crease.
Deno1986 wrote:Just seen this now, must have taken you ages, Crease. Fair play a chara! :TU:
Gentlemen, I am deeply humbled. :bow:
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armageto wrote:This list is balls, like most of this season.
I'm afraid that I strongly disagree... The list is accurate.
This season has been an exciting season with some great fights and twists and turns all over the place.
armageto wrote:Charles has fought just about everyone and never backed down from a challenge.
Agreed, Charles has fought a good standard of opposition and he has always been ranked highly...
Hence, the reason for him being included in the roll of honour.
armageto wrote:Stop looking at belts and instead people's overall body of work.
You can only approximate the greatness of a boxer by measuring his success...
The only way of doing this is looking at his achievements....
The fact is Charles has never been Undisputed Champion, and that seems to be the standard to break into the top 5 or 6 of the list.

Charles has had his opportunites to improve his credentials...
As it stands: Charles won the WBO title, had a single defence and lost it.

Charles has also been given three (failed) shots for world titles...
Week 9: lost a WBO title shot to Dillon.
Week 13: lost WBC/WBA title shot to Fox.
Week 37: lost Undisputed title shot to Spinks.

Frankly, you can have no complains... :shame: :shame: :shame:
You have been given more shots than most others... :TU:

Your record speaks for itself:
armageto wrote:Fox- 0-1 against him, would say he is higher than Charles
Spinks- 1-3 against him, would say he's higher than Charles
Calzaghe- 0-1, lost a close fight, would rate Joe higher
You yourself have highlighted these fights...
You have lost repeatedly to the top opposition...
Charles just doesn't deserve a place in the top 10.

I am sorry to be blunt but it is the best way.
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Normally i'd say you can't argue with the facts, but Charles has been one of the better fighters this season. Definitely deserves to be ranked in the bottom half of the top ten IMO.
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Charles > Dillon :(

Still, each a top 10 fighter.

Even James Toney cracked the rankings in the last few weeks. :DD
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Conn and Rosenbloom are equal fighters.....one was managed the other was left to twist in the wind. Conn...would fight anyone anytime....Rosenbloom fought tough opposition when he had to. The software knows if you are "resting" and "pacing" your fighters. You want to take a fighter and treat him like he's a buzz saw it will wear him down. Pick your fights.....that's not a bad credo.
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or you can do both. take challenges and manage your fighter
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or...you can do as you damn well please....lol.
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