I dont think Haye fancys a fight with the Klits

[FLINT ISLAND]

I'd love to see Haye fight Wlad this summer or by autumn - before the year is out the latest.

I want to see Haye V Wlad - as thee next fight to happen for both these men.

Haye has just got his mandotary out of the way - and i'm not so sure about Wlads current obligations - but he seems ready for this fight to go ahead ASAP.

In a ideal world - it would be great to see:

Haye fight Wlad first and score a senstaional knockout

That would then fit the script perfectly for big brother Vitali to step in to face Haye to avenge the dishoner and pain that Haye has put on his family.

Haye V Wlad - 2010

Haye V Vitali - 2011

One thing about these Klitischko brothers - they are professional men in every sense and do not duck a challenge.
Vitali stepped in on short notice to fight Lennox Lewis of all people - they are brave proud men.

Wlad wants the fight with Haye and after seeing him fight John Ruiz I think Wlad now really fancys his chances.


However - I'm not sure Haye really wants this fight anytime soon - he knows deep down this fight is a up hill struggle.

The main hope you give Haye is - he is a good puncher and Wlad has been knocked out before. So you can always give a powerful puncher a chance - espcially if his opponnet has a shaky chin.

But every physical advantage goes to Wlad.

Haye "bitched out" of a fight with both Brothers -


And against Wlad the excuse of a "bad back" convinced precisely no-one.

Haye choose a easier option to win the WBA title.

Even if being WBA Champion gives him greater bargaining power - his first fight with Wlad was signed sealed and delievered - all he had to do was KO Wlad and have better deal for the rematch.

But he pulled out because he really did not fancy his chances - and I dont think anything has changed.

Haye is ducking Wlad - until he proves otherwise - and steps in a ring with him.

[Asterix]

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p ... 3#p2401593

[FLINT ISLAND]

"You have already bitched out of a fight with both Klitschko brothers already............what are you waiting for ? " - Wlad Klitshscko, April 2010.

[FLINT ISLAND]

I think this latest video Wlad has posted is bad news for Haye.

It shows Wlads intent to dominate Haye and boss him and own him.

You can see the aggression and the steely focus he has on teachin Haye a painful lesson.

Forget Wlads boring routine defences - he will want to come out against Haye and make a statment.

Haye insulted his family with his juvinelle wind up tactics - but it has back fired - because the Klitschko brothers are intelligent men and know the best way to deal with big mouths like Haye is to show a steely resolve in the face of his nonsence and then teach him a painful lesson in reality in the ring.

Unlike alot of limited minded boxers who I have heard say...........

"If it wasn't for boxing I would be dead or in jail"

The Klitshcko brothers are mentally on a completely different level to this.

If it wasnt for boxing the Klitshcko brothers would be something like:

Politician
Astronaunt
Movie Star
Fitness Guru
Accountant
Libarian
Architect
Banking Chief
Market Researcher
Engineerer
Electrcian
Pilot
Psycologist
Salesman
Recording artist
Property Developer
Cosmetic Surgeon
Dental Surgeon
Medical Surgeon

They are well raised - have PHD's and run for the Mayor of Kiev.

They are quality human beings - and Haye has got on the wrong side of them.

[J]

another thread on this, its bordering on the obsessive, time for you to be banned ?

maybe.

[Loynesy]

Flint, are you just a fool or merely a pretend fool?

[FLINT ISLAND]

Flint, are you just a fool or merely a pretend fool?

In what way do you think I am foolish ? 8)

[MacTavish]

I'm loving the fact that you've taken the time to list 12+ professions rather than give 1 as an example!

[FLINT ISLAND]

I'm loving the fact that you've taken the time to list 12+ professions rather than give 1 as an example!

[FLINT ISLAND]

Another thing is as well

Haye is a bit of a glamour boy / playboy

But Wlad is a top lad too - he pulls women for fun - he was "dating" that Hayden girl of Heroe's she was only 19 years old - and he had her easy.

Wlad can pull some of the hottest women on the planet - he is a top lad.

[FLINT ISLAND]

[FLINT ISLAND]

[idle talk]

what a tit

[Quixall]

This is a laughable thread.........

Haye wants to fight both the Klitschko's. Wlad will be stopped inside the distance, but Vitali could be a very tough opponent and Haye will have to be prepared to out smart him for 12 rounds and get a decision..........End of

[MrBoxingUK2]

flint you are a wierdo. go throw darts at your david haye poster, you gonna let enzo out of your shed for his ebu title fight?

[Jon Saxon]

Well he's no madder than some of the nutters who are Haye bashing in the current scene section.

[Gooner123]

But Wlad is a top lad too - he pulls women for fun - he was "dating" that Hayden girl of Heroe's she was only 19 years old - and he had her easy.

Wlad can pull some of the hottest women on the planet - he is a top lad.

Unfortunately for you, he doesnt appear to like men (if you are a man?)!

[Autobarn]

haye would make massive money even in losing to wlad. he's in a better position to negotiate a fight because he brings a belt and is coming off a stoppage in which he showcased some tremendous offensive skills. i think the ppl who are so sure he "doesn't want it" are being foolish. both men want it, i believe.

there aren't many opponents out there that can get the interest of american TV (HBO) for wlad, but haye should be sufficient. both men should seriously want the fight, as it could bring in big money from britain (will surely outdo the 800,000 buys from the valuev fight), germany and america. both men would be seriously hitting the jackpot, and this is why we are seeing wlad being uncharacteristically aggressive in trying to get this fight.

unless these 2 get the fight sealed soon, you will see shit meaningless mandatory rematches: wlad v peter 2 and haye v valuev 2. haye doing another marathon run, and wlad turning his back and getting dropped multiple times with so called rabbit punches (provided peter isn't too fat and slow to even throw punches these days).

[jameswilson]

Mods please ban flint.

[FLINT ISLAND]

haye would make massive money even in losing to wlad. he's in a better position to negotiate a fight because he brings a belt and is coming off a stoppage in which he showcased some tremendous offensive skills. i think the ppl who are so sure he "doesn't want it" are being foolish. both men want it, i believe.

there aren't many opponents out there that can get the interest of american TV (HBO) for wlad, but haye should be sufficient. both men should seriously want the fight, as it could bring in big money from britain (will surely outdo the 800,000 buys from the valuev fight), germany and america. both men would be seriously hitting the jackpot, and this is why we are seeing wlad being uncharacteristically aggressive in trying to get this fight.

unless these 2 get the fight sealed soon, you will see poop meaningless mandatory rematches: wlad v peter 2 and haye v valuev 2. haye doing another marathon run, and wlad turning his back and getting dropped multiple times with so called rabbit punches (provided peter isn't too fat and slow to even throw punches these days).

I agree - but would he not have been in a better position to KO Wlad first- become NO 1 then be the boss

He had the fight made and ready ..............and he pulled out

Of course I believe he wants the fight at some point for fincial reasons - but I'm not so sure he wants it anytime soon.

[Autobarn]

i think he'd rather cash in v wlad than have to endure all these WBA mandos, incl rematch with valuev.

taking on valuev was a big enough risk considering size difference, location, and all of haye's inactivity. it worked out well for haye and now he'll use this to get the mega-fight.

but this will be a hard fight to negotiate, for both sides. if wlad allows the fight to be in the UK, then you can bet there will be rematch clauses (which prevented haye-macca in the year before haye won the WBA/WBC titles) and will wlad want a piece of the UK PPV money? i hope haye doesn't get blamed for what happened last year, if, for instance, wlad's terms are unreasonable...

[FLINT ISLAND]

i think he'd rather cash in v wlad than have to endure all these WBA mandos, incl rematch with valuev.

taking on valuev was a big enough risk considering size difference, location, and all of haye's inactivity. it worked out well for haye and now he'll use this to get the mega-fight.

but this will be a hard fight to negotiate, for both sides. if wlad allows the fight to be in the UK, then you can bet there will be rematch clauses (which prevented haye-macca in the year before haye won the WBA/WBC titles) and will wlad want a piece of the UK PPV money? i hope haye doesn't get blamed for what happened last year, if, for instance, wlad's terms are unreasonable...

Lets hope there is no rematch with Valuev - that is a bad idea - and I cant even believe its being mentioned.

Some things are just best not repeated.

Yes - I think he does eventually want to cash in his chips against the Klitschkos - whatever happens.

But I still think he might want a few more defences against guys he is expected to beat - cos the money is good.

[Exoddus]

Although I would like Haye to win. I don't think he'll beat either brother tbh.

[bigdaddy]

Although I would like Haye to win. I don't think he'll beat either brother tbh.

x2 but haye can bang watched him spar last year he was putting his sparring partners away

[forcefraser]

Gotta love the old Flint Island.

Insanity personified.