Joe Calzaghe Comeback Fight Being Shopped around?

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This is probably Bullshit but its been reported here

http://www.BS.com/?m=show&id=27067

anyone know anything more?

Here's another article about it:
Joe Calzaghe rumored to be considering a comeback

Surprise, surprise, surprise. Rumored word from the UK is that former super middleweight and light heavyweight world champion Joe Calzaghe is having a comeback fight shopped to the major TV networks across the pond, according to BS.com's Rick Reeno. Calzaghe, 38, last fought in November 2008 when he beat Roy Jones Jr. at Madison Square Garden. He claimed then that he would never come back to the ring, but retirement looks like it's getting to the Welsh star.

Calzaghe appeared on "Strictly Come Dancing" in late 2009, and was to focus on getting his promotional firm running in retirement. The promotional company was a bomb, as Calzaghe appeared to not really care about it at all, leaving the company to essentially just float away into the wind. Most recently, he admitted to using cocaine, which was a big story in the UK.

Speculation has grown and grown in recent months that Calzaghe is bored in retirement and has the itch to fight again. Reeno reports that one name being floated as a comeback opponent is Robin Reid, who himself retired in 2007 after a bad loss to Carl Froch. Calzaghe and Reid (who turned 39 in February) met once in 1999, with Calzaghe winning a disputed split decision. Reid may be most famous for his stomach-turning "loss" to Sven Ottke in 2003, which was among the worst robberies of recent years.

Years ago, Calzaghe-Reid II would have made a lot of sense and made some good money. Now it seems something like white collar boxing, or some kind of professional exhibition fundraiser or the like.

And if Calzaghe is serious about a return, rather than just a one-off, what's he going to do after that? As a fan, I have sort of a love-hate relationship with Calzaghe's career. I liked watching him fight. He's very talented and a unique fighter. But his arrogance always seemed like it was there to hide something else, too. Do you think he'd do something like fight Chad Dawson? I frankly have a hard time believing that Calzaghe would do that as he closes in on 40, especially considering how much he adores his undefeated record. But otherwise, what's the point?

I guess Antonio Tarver needs an opponent...

Usually I'd say that chances are this turns into nothing, at least in the short-term, but Calzaghe, I think, clearly retired before he was genuinely ready to let it all go. Whether he thought it would be good to protect his legacy and retire undefeated, or just made a mistake in his own judgment, I don't know, but it seems obvious he hasn't really let boxing go, or that boxing isn't letting him go yet.
I doubt he'll be coming back but nothing is surprising after the recent allegations about his private life, maybe he think's he needs to get back in the ring to sort his head out.

Any thoughts?
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I hope it isn't true. Calzaghe hasn't been asble to let go of the 'limelight' and it's getting to the stage of where it's getting cringeworthy. I just hope he turns into a recluse and never speaks to the media again, because he can't open his mouth without talking utter ball cheese.

And Robin Reid?

lol :OhYes: lol
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sounds like a pain in the arse.

he could pull out with bad hands, he might not be able to make the weight.

what he needs is some catchweight comeback like danny green, where he fights beatable guys above the light heavyweight limit. a comeback where he fights middleweights and super middleweights somewhere in the 180-pound region, meaningless showcases that keep him in the public eye, making money.

but are sky or whoever going to pay him to fight nonsense fights, or would they want him to prove it in real fights?
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Fernando Vargas?
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Dioufy wrote:I hope it isn't true. Calzaghe hasn't been asble to let go of the 'limelight' and it's getting to the stage of where it's getting cringeworthy. I just hope he turns into a recluse and never speaks to the media again, because he can't open his mouth without talking utter ball cheese.

And Robin Reid?

lol :OhYes: lol
I agree. If Calzaghe comes back and fights a good fighter he's getting his first loss. The Calzaghe against Jones Jr wasn't a patch on the Calzaghe against Lacy. He has declined.

He could beat Tarver easily enough, but I hope he doesn't return.
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Asterix wrote:
Dioufy wrote:I hope it isn't true. Calzaghe hasn't been asble to let go of the 'limelight' and it's getting to the stage of where it's getting cringeworthy. I just hope he turns into a recluse and never speaks to the media again, because he can't open his mouth without talking utter ball cheese.

And Robin Reid?

lol :OhYes: lol
I agree. If Calzaghe comes back and fights a good fighter he's getting his first loss. The Calzaghe against Jones Jr wasn't a patch on the Calzaghe against Lacy. He has declined.

He could beat Tarver easily enough, but I hope he doesn't return.
I did enjoy watching him fight, I really did, but as a man, I think he's pathetic. If you read his book or listen to him, he sounds horrific. Contradictions, ambiguity, double standards. And a massive dose of insecurity.
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Autobarn wrote:sounds like a pain in the arse.

he could pull out with bad hands, he might not be able to make the weight.

what he needs is some catchweight comeback like danny green, where he fights beatable guys above the light heavyweight limit. a comeback where he fights middleweights and super middleweights somewhere in the 180-pound region, meaningless showcases that keep him in the public eye, making money.

but are sky or whoever going to pay him to fight nonsense fights, or would they want him to prove it in real fights?
Danny Green is a great shout if he did come back...he could pick up an easy $5 million fighting Green in Australia and get another World title whilst he's at it.

Also fighting on some kind of senior tour against 40 year old plus guys like Tarver, Bhops and Glen Johnson could also be a possibility.
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Autobarn wrote:sounds like a pain in the arse.

he could pull out with bad hands, he might not be able to make the weight.

what he needs is some catchweight comeback like danny green, where he fights beatable guys above the light heavyweight limit. a comeback where he fights middleweights and super middleweights somewhere in the 180-pound region, meaningless showcases that keep him in the public eye, making money.

but are sky or whoever going to pay him to fight nonsense fights, or would they want him to prove it in real fights?
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I like Robin a lot, but surely choosing someone who has retired even longer than yourself, is a cynical comeback fight?

I'm not a Joey fan, but even his supporters must be nervous if it's that sort of fight being arranged if he is indeed, making a comeback.
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exittored wrote:
Autobarn wrote:sounds like a pain in the arse.

he could pull out with bad hands, he might not be able to make the weight.

what he needs is some catchweight comeback like danny green, where he fights beatable guys above the light heavyweight limit. a comeback where he fights middleweights and super middleweights somewhere in the 180-pound region, meaningless showcases that keep him in the public eye, making money.

but are sky or whoever going to pay him to fight nonsense fights, or would they want him to prove it in real fights?
Danny Green is a great shout if he did come back...he could pick up an easy $5 million fighting Green in Australia and get another World title whilst he's at it.

Also fighting on some kind of senior tour against 40 year old plus guys like Tarver, Bhops and Glen Johnson could also be a possibility.
green does sound the best bet. i agree. they can make money vs each other. and it would be agreat style matchup. calzaghe a worldwide name, has been on HBO and received the belts from ring mag at super middle and light heavy. green is massive in australia and showtime have an interest in him - apparently. green hasn't had much luck landing the big fights (hopkins, tarver, paul briggs). calzaghe and green could put on a good fight. i think joe should have some tune ups, though.
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He should have a warm up fight then go for Bute.

Im a big Calzaghe fan and i cant stand froch but if froch beats kessler, then i'd say it would make frochs CV alot more impressive than Calzaghes.
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Fighting the super 6 winner is likely to be the biggest money spinner
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I`ve said it many times before - but, the guys performing in the super6 have not really convinced me any of them are something special .. infact some of the pre-fight favourites have been terrible in the truth be told :oops:

Not that I truly Believe Calzaghe will come back - but if he does - I do not see any of the guys being too tall a challenge.
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tonyevs wrote:I`ve said it many times before - but, the guys performing in the super6 have not really convinced me any of them are something special .. infact some of the pre-fight favourites have been terrible in the truth be told :oops:

Not that I truly Believe Calzaghe will come back - but if he does - I do not see any of the guys being too tall a challenge.
The quality has been a bit crap so far, I agree. Ward has looked good, but without decent power he's not setting the World alight. Dirrell runs too much. Kessler has crumbled. Abraham looked confused. Froch can't close the ring.

Bute's probably the most exciting of the super middles for me at the moment, even though Abraham is my favourite.

Danny Green is a decent shout, provided Joe's reflexes are still good enough for him to avoid the big shots.
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Calzaghe is definitely looking at a come back 'fight'. There have been a couple of names contacted and neither are ranked or active.

Reid has certainly been asked (i've had that 100% confirmed that contact has been made). I bet the odds are that Clinton Woods will get a call too.
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He should stay retired and conduct himself with some decorum.
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G0mez wrote:Calzaghe is definitely looking at a come back 'fight'. There have been a couple of names contacted and neither are ranked or active.

Reid has certainly been asked (i've had that 100% confirmed that contact has been made). I bet the odds are that Clinton Woods will get a call too.
Sheesh. Thanks for the confirmation Gomez. I was hoping it wasn't true, though. This is something Calzaghe said he'd never do. What a plonker.
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Here we go again. Another great fighter possibly making another comeback because he misses the limelight or one of the other usual lines that we see getting trotted out when a former great decides to get the gloves back on. The guy has got nothing to prove, as one of the greatest boxers this country as has ever produced and should stay out of the ring and spend his retirement with his kids and doing charity work etc.
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This would be no surprise. Who would seriously be interested in Calzaghe - Reid II. Would it make sense financially and who would promote him (if he could not be bothered himself).

The signs were there in the last 2 fights that Calzaghe's puch resistance was on the wane. Nights out on the celeb circuit and a penchant for columbian marching powder cannot mean this will have improved since the Jones fight.
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If Joe was to make a comeback... (And I sincerely doubt it)
His 2 chocies are clear:

1. Antonio Tarver
or
2. Glen Johnson

A fight against Dawson would get him major quedos, but it seems unlikely to happen.

Joe could beat Tarver and Johnson in the space of the next 10/11 months though. :OhYes:
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Thanks Gomez, for the confirmation.

But this is sad to see, it really is. Calzaghe is one of the most insecure boxers, and people, I have seen in a long, long time. If he does come back then it will be against someone like Reid or even Woods. Anyone with half a brain will realise that it's a joke. His legacy, to him, is based on his undefeated record, and that philosophy isn't endearing him to boxing fans in the slightest.

If he wanted to generate some real interest then the likes of Dawson, Pascal and even BHOP would create a decent spectacle/contest. That won't happen though because there's too much obvious risk.

The man can't seem to let go though.
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Calzaghe Vs Robin Reid :o :lol: :o :lol: :o :lol:

I see that Calzaghes layoff hasn't effected his matchmaking philosophy...... I heard if he can squeak past Reid then he's looking to tempt Tocker Pudwill into a rematch.
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Maybe Wazza should pay him the money he owes.
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I hope this doesn't materialise, I was a big Calzaghe fan when he was fighting and if true either way he gets embarrassed. If he chooses a tough fight, he has a good chance of losing to someone he could have creamed 2-3 years ago or if he fights someone soft like a 2010 Robin Reid then he just makes himself look more of a plank than he already has since 2008.

Please stay retired Joe. Although it would be awesome if he could return and still reign at the top against the likes of Bute, Dawson & Super 6 winner. That would be some story and would improve fans opinions of him no end.
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youngrell wrote:I hope this doesn't materialise, I was a big Calzaghe fan when he was fighting and if true either way he gets embarrassed. If he chooses a tough fight, he has a good chance of losing to someone he could have creamed 2-3 years ago or if he fights someone soft like a 2010 Robin Reid then he just makes himself look more of a plank than he already has since 2008.

Please stay retired Joe. Although it would be awesome if he could return and still reign at the top against the likes of Bute, Dawson & Super 6 winner. That would be some story and would improve fans opinions of him no end.
yeah but he's not going to fight some super middle or light hea vy in their primes. he'll fight some seniors tour guy (tarver) or fellow comeback merchant like danny green, IMO. green got one over on joe, stopping roy jones in a round...green v calzaghe would make a lot of money in some places. the ozzies have a real champ (darchinyan) but they seem to have a demand for danny green trying to become some catchweight legend killer. of course no one really buys into all that but it makes money, apparenlty a lot of it from australian TV.
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