Grange old school, great card june 2nd

[Hounddawg]

May the 27th Nokia Cafe (??) I think its a cafe, in the USA
Golden Boy Promotions (the event is on GBP web site, but no fighters named).
No opponent named as yet.
Unsure if he has signed with GBP or his opponent is with them.

It will probably be against a similar fighter to the 1 scheduled earlier this year.

You can't get a better fight for Dawson, is he ready for the US?

[adamheight]

so because medley v Dawson is no longer on the card it aint ppv worthy? so therefore medley v Dawson it self is a ppv fight?

[philthy]

very good card but not for a ppv! i would like to see two wold class fighters,fighting each other for a ppv not just a couple spread over a card. does anyone know if boxing is coming back to one hd. that is where this should be. you cant expect ppl who dont know boxing to pay for this card! to much about money and not enough about getting ppl interested. things are SLOWLY getting better for aussie boxing.

[Hounddawg]

so because medley v Dawson is no longer on the card it aint ppv worthy? so therefore medley v Dawson it self is a ppv fight?

I assume you mean't this for me?

For the Dawson v medley fight..Yeah, it tips over from good domestic to great domestic.
For me and some others theres been times in the past where domestic dream matchup lists have been compiled, that matchup appears on most lists as 1 of the top 5.

In all honesty if that fight did go ahead, you can't expect them to fight for peanuts.
In reality you have a top 5 ranked middleweight vs the contender finalist, A contender winner and numerous fringe world fighters with world rankings and an ex champ coming from Mexico, all fighting on Foxs tight budget, some of those fights are career crippling for some and $5000 a fight( if they lucky) doesn't make these cards happen.

$20 bucks for this card would be possible to pay these blokes a decent purse for a very decent fight,so yeah i stand strong on the subject while encouraging more gyms to have the balls to put there fighters in matchups like that.

The contender done wonders as far as media go's for the sport and people would be surprised with who bought this.

Have a look at the shitt that fox is serving up next Thursday, you can't complain.

[amwsnw]

The card with Medley v Dawson has the appeal of a PPV, without it, it doesnt. Medley v Dawson with the other fights has appeal for a PPV, without it it doesn't. make sense.

[adamheight]

The card with Medley v Dawson has the appeal of a PPV, without it, it doesnt. Medley v Dawson with the other fights has appeal for a PPV, without it it doesn't. make sense.

not to me
how come u wrote the same sentence twice?

[Marlin]

If you read it again you will see that there is a difference.

One is stating that the exact card being put forward with the inclusion of Medley v Dawson has ppv appeal however without that fight it does not.

the other is stating that you could build a card around Medley v Dawson that would have PPV appeal, it doesn't have to be the fights on the original card here, but the Medley v Dawson would still be the key.

However the fight in and of itself is not a PPV fight.

[adamheight]

If you read it again you will see that there is a difference.

One is stating that the exact card being put forward with the inclusion of Medley v Dawson has ppv appeal however without that fight it does not.

the other is stating that you could build a card around Medley v Dawson that would have PPV appeal, it doesn't have to be the fights on the original card here, but the Medley v Dawson would still be the key.

However the fight in and of itself is not a PPV fight.

this is like a riddle...im gonna go get some coffee then try reading it again

[adamheight]

no its def saying the exact same thing twice. the important part is that the second sentence has the word "the"...if u take away the word "the" in the second sentence i could understand what u r saying marlin.

[Marlin]

Ah, gotcha.

[toppity]

my head hurts

[Lethaleigh76]

Now that Dawson is out of the show, I just hope they dont match Medley against some 2nd rate fighter from you know were ! wat about Ryan Waters or King Davidson or maybe Frank La Porto ???

[Hounddawg]

Now that Dawson is out of the show, I just hope they dont match Medley against some 2nd rate fighter from you know were ! wat about Ryan Waters or King Davidson or maybe Frank La Porto ???

another 5-6 fighter no doubt. If he's going to get another offer to fight overseas again he should take it.

Maybe a move to Middle is nessacary in order to get more quality matchups.

[toppity]

Perhaps this was never a 'lock' anyway....who knows, but it's fornicating disappointing.

I'm truly starting to lose interest, after many years of following the sport.

The fights that should be made, aren't getting made, and we are being fed rubbish.

I was watching the kick boxing last night. Those blokes don't like losing, but it happens. And it dosn't affect their appeal and marketability. It makes for a more interesting 'scene'. We, as spectators, often see the fights we want to see. Everyone wins.

Those who watch boxing want to see the best fights as well. But there are too many agendas.

Like Marlin said in the other thread. We have to buy pay tv to get any coverage. Then, whilst already paying anyway, we have to buy PPV's. That means they don't just slug us once, they come back around for a second time. Then we end up getting served "B" grade cards, and are then told by those in the industry that we should be glad for what we get.

I've just about fornicating had it.

[Marlin]

Damn, you make some great points toppo.

[adamheight]

Perhaps this was never a 'lock' anyway....who knows, but it's effing disappointing.

I'm truly starting to lose interest, after many years of following the sport.

The fights that should be made, aren't getting made, and we are being fed rubbish.

I was watching the kick boxing last night. Those blokes don't like losing, but it happens. And it dosn't affect their appeal and marketability. It makes for a more interesting 'scene'. We, as spectators, often see the fights we want to see. Everyone wins.

Those who watch boxing want to see the best fights as well. But there are too many agendas.

Like Marlin said in the other thread. We have to buy pay tv to get any coverage. Then, whilst already paying anyway, we have to buy PPV's. That means they don't just slug us once, they come back around for a second time. Then we end up getting served "B" grade cards, and are then told by those in the industry that we should be glad for what we get.

I've just about effing had it.

its also why the ufc has become so popular. hardly anyone has a "0" on their record...they are all fighting each other and rematching each other which delivers excellent entertainment for fans. theres no dodging and ducking. fighters that lose dont become less marketable.

[madball1982]

its also why the ufc has become so popular. hardly anyone has a "0" on their record...they are all fighting each other and rematching each other which delivers excellent entertainment for fans. theres no dodging and ducking. fighters that lose dont become less marketable.

Same with K-1.

How many times did Aerts, LeBanner, Hoost etc (ie: the top fighters in K-1) fight - and usually KTFO - each other?

The top blokes fought the other top blokes. The middle fighters fought the top blokes. Not uncommon for 50-20 type records in K-1's history. Just like there are heaps of 16-8 records in MMA.

One day, I hope the stigma of having 1 or 2 losses on your record and no longer being an elite fighter/prospect is gone from boxing.

We go back to the old days of boxing (and current MMA) where the top fought the top and your record was based on the calibre of opponents not the 0L column.

[Brute]

May the 27th Nokia Cafe (??) I think its a cafe, in the USA
Golden Boy Promotions (the event is on GBP web site, but no fighters named).
No opponent named as yet.
Unsure if he has signed with GBP or his opponent is with them.

There is a Club Nokia in Los Angeles that holds fights, they have nothing on the schedule for May as yet.

[Hounddawg]

You know Toppo, i'm with ya, all year I've been thinking the same thing, why bother, i just can't be fucked anymore, I'm constantly let down and i keep coming back for more, i spend as much money on boxing if not more than hitting the piss.

I've seen a glimpse of what the sport could be like over the course of the last 2 years and it could be great, and good enough to return to tv, but it's either the blokes behind the scenes or particular fighters that are killing it by serving up the same shitt week in week out.

Boxing has become a passion of mine, but the excitement and love of the sport is being seriously tested and broken down bit by bit.

I know people keep harping on about MMA/Kickboxing, but my passion is great Boxing over a distance, i can't get into the rolling around the ground as much as a fist smashing into someones face, in saying this i do follow the ultimate fighter series religiously, for the very essence of the hungry fighter..... which is almost dead in boxing, a fighter just has to accumulate a record against part time fighters and he'll get a shot at the title, he might not win, but he gets bragging rights for the rest of his life that he challenged for a world title.

[toppity]

You know Toppo, i'm with ya, all year I've been thinking the same thing, why bother, i just can't be fucked anymore, I'm constantly let down and i keep coming back for more, i spend as much money on boxing if not more than hitting the piss.

I've seen a glimpse of what the sport could be like over the course of the last 2 years and it could be great, and good enough to return to tv, but it's either the blokes behind the scenes or particular fighters that are killing it by serving up the same shitt week in week out.

Boxing has become a passion of mine, but the excitement and love of the sport is being seriously tested and broken down bit by bit.

I know people keep harping on about MMA/Kickboxing, but my passion is great Boxing over a distance, i can't get into the rolling around the ground as much as a fist smashing into someones face, in saying this i do follow the ultimate fighter series religiously, for the very essence of the hungry fighter..... which is almost dead in boxing, a fighter just has to accumulate a record against part time fighters and he'll get a shot at the title, he might not win, but he gets bragging rights for the rest of his life that he challenged for a world title.

great post mate.

[Lethaleigh76]

In all seriousness this show still looks good, except the fact Medley has no opponent, and the longer it has TBA as an opponent the more chance he will fight a stiff but i did read somewere he mite be fighting for a Commonwealth Strap, any word guys ?

[Beltane]

Robert has finally found an opponent, no guesses here, all the way from Argentina.

The Argie: Oscar Daniel Valiz has a very padded record (check out his opposition's records at their date of their meetings) and Oscar failed to step up in his last bout.

Robert should have an easy time in this "IBF Australasia Light Middle Title" contest although the title's geography is slightly out of kilter with our visitor's involvement.