Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Rick Farris]

Don Johnson . . .

Hey Frank, I think we've discussed this featherweight in the past, another globe-trotting contender like so many we knew.
I regret that I didn't get to see Don Johnson fight in L.A. His career spanned more than twenty years, mostly campaigning out of the country to get fights. Like Dwight Hawkins, and others we know, this guy was in many ways "to good for his own good". I know he fought on the undercard of Davey Moore-Sugar Ramos card at Dodger Stadium in early 1963.
Any memories of this fighter?


-Rick Farris

[Rick Farris]

And Carl Froch?

[Rick Farris]

Mike Stewart . . .

Frank, during the mid 60's I remember Saturday mornings very well.
It was on Saturday mornings between 9am-to-noon that the Main Street Gym was packed .
It was packed with boxers, packed with energy. The place had a beat, a steady rhythmatic pulse, puntuated by bells and buzzers.
From early 1965 to 1976, my Saturday mornings were spent at the Main Street Gym.

Boxers make friends with other boxers, and there was this young junior amateur named Mike Stewart.
Mike was a skinny little kid, maybe ten years old? He'd show up at the gym every Saturday morning.
Howie Steindler let juniors, such as Stewart and I, workout before 10am.

Mike Stewart was trained by Sammy Saunders.
Sammy was an ex-pro turned manager, amateur promoter, etc. I liked Sammy, he was soft spoken, had class.
I remember that Mike Stewart's mother would walk her son into the gym, turn him over to Saunders, and then perch herself in the bleachers where she'd watch her son workout. His mother was a beautiful lady.

Stewart would grow up, as a teen he was a member of the 1973 L.A. Golden Gloves team that went to Boston under head coach, Frank Baltazar. That was about the last time I spoke with Little Mike Stewart. He would later turn pro, and below is his record.
I knew him from the gym, and Frank coached Stewart and saw him at his best as an amateur.

Frank, does anything standout in your mind relating to Mike Stewart?


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-Mike Stuart-

bantamweight
Los Angeles, California, United States
won 15 (KO 7) + lost 8 (KO 4) + drawn 1 = 24
rounds boxed 138 KO% 29.17



1981-02-16 Alonzo Gonzalez 10-2-1
Bakersfield, California, United States L KO 4
1980-01-23 116 Johnny Carter 117¼ 12-0-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L TKO 9 10
~ time: 0:58 ~
~ USA Nevada State bantamweight title ~

1979-06-03 Adelaido Galindo 28-3-0
Caesars Palace, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L TD 6
1979-02-20 Charlie Magri 10-0-0
Royal Albert Hall, Kensington, London, United Kingdom L KO 3
1978-07-18 112 Rafael Rubio 112 1-4-2
Arena, Pico Rivera, California, United States W SD 12 12
~ referee: Lou Filippo 112-115 | judge: George Latka 115-113 | judge: Rudy Jordan 116-113 ~
Vacant California State Flyweight Title

1978-03-15 Santos Nunez 1-6-0
Anchorage Sports Arena, Anchorage, Alaska, United States W KO 5
1978-01-30 Rafael Rubio 0-3-2
Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico L PTS 10 10
1978-01-18 Raul Pacheco 17-9-0
Anchorage, Alaska, United States W PTS 12 12
1977-11-17 Antonio Kiris 4-4-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 10 10
1977-10-20 Raul Ochoa 4-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 3
1977-09-20 Candy Iglesias 6-6-1
Phoenix, Arizona, United States W TKO 2 12
Vacant Arizona flyweight title

1977-05-27 Raul Pacheco 16-7-0
San Diego, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1977-03-03 Carlos Alcibar 8-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1976-10-02 Matias Marin 0-1-0
Sports Arena, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 8 8
1976-08-19 114 Arnulfo Martinez 117¾ 0-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5
1976-07-08 Santiago Hernandez 5-4-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 4
1976-06-10 Alfonso del Gadillo 0-5-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2
1976-05-13 Alfonso del Gadillo 0-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D TD 1
1976-04-02 Shiji Kambara 1-0-0
Shrine Exposition Center, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1
1976-03-19 Jorge Flores
Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2
1976-03-03 Carlos Alcibar
Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1974-12-04 John Meza 8-9-1
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 4 4
1974-10-10 114½ Cesar Gomez 110 1-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L KO 1
1974-09-19 112 Mario Rogelio 114½ 0-7-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4

[Rick Farris]

CBZ Message Board?

Is it still operating?

[Rick Farris]

Arreola, a boxer with no heart . . .


Just listened to a replay of Chris Arreola's post-fight interview.

I realize that one can't expect a boxer to be a scholar, however . . .
Chris Arreola is one stupid man. Dumb, no class, NO HEART!

It takes heart to dedicate one's self to the conitioning necesary for boxing success.
A bum who's willing to take shots like a punching bag for twelve rounds does not have heart.
Arreola also has no brain. Good fighters are smart. Smart is as smart does.

After listeing to Arreola "Mutha F*ck" his way thru another interview, it occured to me he was perfectly fine with his loss.
Thie guy really didn't care if he looked like a dog. I was happy to hear his "homies" didn't buy tickets to the match.
What does that tell you?


-Rick Farris

[Chuck1052]

I remember seeing a terrific fight between Mike Stuart, a boxer with plenty of skill, and Carlos Alcibar at the Olympic Auditorium.

- Chuck Johnston

[Expug]

And adding to the title confusion of today . . .


2 Diamond Belt Champions?
By Karl Freitag

WBC President Jose Sulaiman, upon hearing that the bout between Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosley will not be for Mosley’s WBA welterweight title, has announced that the WBC will offer the WBC Diamond Belt to the Mayweather-Mosley winner and be recognized as WBC Diamond world champion, being certain that if Mayweather wins he’ll proudly accept the belt. “In history, there has been only one world champion who has won the WBC Diamond Belt, the idol of the Philippines and the world Manny Pacquiao,” said Sulaiman in a statement. “The winner of Mayweather vs. Mosley also deserves to be crowned as WBC Diamond world champion.” If the WBC is not allowed to present the belt in the ring, they will do so in the locker room of the winner.

Diamond championship belt.
Heres the result of all these titles in belts. Ready for it?...here it comes...nobody gives a fu.k anymore.
Suilaman with that explanantion sounds like a carnival barker. A song a dance man.
Last night I watched an old Clint Eastwood movie on amc. "The Outlaw Josey Wales".
In it, there is a traveling salesman type who keeps trying to sell this miracle liquid solution to everyone he comes across. When he meets up with Eastwood, he tries his routine on Clint telling him all of its fictitious uses.Eastwood responds by spitting tobacco all over the guys white jacket and asking him if it removes tobacco stains.
Suilaman reminds me of that salesman.

[Rick Farris]

I remember seeing a terrific fight between Mike Stuart, a boxer with plenty of skill, and Carlos Alcibar at the Olympic Auditorium.

- Chuck Johnston

Chuck . . . I met Carlos Alcibar at the Lincoln Heights Gym a few years ago. He was training amateurs there at the time. I'd go in to workout and sometimes used the facility to work with people I was training. Carlos and I became friends, and we duscussed his fights with both Stewart and Albert Davila, whom he faced in a ten rounder at the Olympic. Carlos was in basicly good health, but having problems with his eyesight as a result of detached retina suffered during his career.


-Rick Farris

[Rick Farris]

And adding to the title confusion of today . . .


2 Diamond Belt Champions?
By Karl Freitag

WBC President Jose Sulaiman, upon hearing that the bout between Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosley will not be for Mosley’s WBA welterweight title, has announced that the WBC will offer the WBC Diamond Belt to the Mayweather-Mosley winner and be recognized as WBC Diamond world champion, being certain that if Mayweather wins he’ll proudly accept the belt. “In history, there has been only one world champion who has won the WBC Diamond Belt, the idol of the Philippines and the world Manny Pacquiao,” said Sulaiman in a statement. “The winner of Mayweather vs. Mosley also deserves to be crowned as WBC Diamond world champion.” If the WBC is not allowed to present the belt in the ring, they will do so in the locker room of the winner.

Diamond championship belt.
Heres the result of all these titles in belts. Ready for it?...here it comes...nobody gives a fu.k anymore.
Suilaman with that explanantion sounds like a carnival barker. A song a dance man.
Last night I watched an old Clint Eastwood movie on amc. "The Outlaw Josey Wales".
In it, there is a traveling salesman type who keeps trying to sell this miracle liquid solution to everyone he comes across. When he meets up with Eastwood, he tries his routine on Clint telling him all of its fictitious uses.Eastwood responds by spitting tobacco all over the guys white jacket and asking him if it removes tobacco stains.
Suilaman reminds me of that salesman.

An Award For Jose Suilaman . . .

I agree, Brian. He's a low end piece of work that can take credit for playing a big role in the overall destruction of boxing.
When I was with the WBHOF, several geniouses came up with the idea to present Suilaman with some type of special award.
I was amazed and asked, why? I think the WBHOF President at the time was trying to kiss his ass for some reason.
I suggested we present him with a bag of manure. That's about all he contributes to boxing.
We could have called it, "The WBHOF Diamond Bull Sh*t Award".
Why not? It fits.


-Rick Farris

[kikibalt]

CBZ Message Board?

Is it still operating?

The site was down yesterday, don't know what happened, think it came down with a virus...

[kikibalt]

And adding to the title confusion of today . . .


2 Diamond Belt Champions?
By Karl Freitag

WBC President Jose Sulaiman, upon hearing that the bout between Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosley will not be for Mosley’s WBA welterweight title, has announced that the WBC will offer the WBC Diamond Belt to the Mayweather-Mosley winner and be recognized as WBC Diamond world champion, being certain that if Mayweather wins he’ll proudly accept the belt. “In history, there has been only one world champion who has won the WBC Diamond Belt, the idol of the Philippines and the world Manny Pacquiao,” said Sulaiman in a statement. “The winner of Mayweather vs. Mosley also deserves to be crowned as WBC Diamond world champion.” If the WBC is not allowed to present the belt in the ring, they will do so in the locker room of the winner.

Diamond championship belt.
Heres the result of all these titles in belts. Ready for it?...here it comes...nobody gives a fu.k anymore.
Suilaman with that explanantion sounds like a carnival barker. A song a dance man.
Last night I watched an old Clint Eastwood movie on amc. "The Outlaw Josey Wales".
In it, there is a traveling salesman type who keeps trying to sell this miracle liquid solution to everyone he comes across. When he meets up with Eastwood, he tries his routine on Clint telling him all of its fictitious uses.Eastwood responds by spitting tobacco all over the guys white jacket and asking him if it removes tobacco stains.
Suilaman reminds me of that salesman.

An Award For Jose Suilaman . . .

I agree, Brian. He's a low end piece of work that can take credit for playing a big role in the overall destruction of boxing.
When I was with the WBHOF, several geniouses came up with the idea to present Suilaman with some type of special award.
I was amazed and asked, why? I think the WBHOF President at the time was trying to kiss his ass for some reason.
I suggested we present him with a bag of manure. That's about all he contributes to boxing.
We could have called it, "The WBHOF Diamond Bull Sh*t Award".
Why not? It fits.


-Rick Farris

[Expug]

And adding to the title confusion of today . . .


2 Diamond Belt Champions?
By Karl Freitag

WBC President Jose Sulaiman, upon hearing that the bout between Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosley will not be for Mosley’s WBA welterweight title, has announced that the WBC will offer the WBC Diamond Belt to the Mayweather-Mosley winner and be recognized as WBC Diamond world champion, being certain that if Mayweather wins he’ll proudly accept the belt. “In history, there has been only one world champion who has won the WBC Diamond Belt, the idol of the Philippines and the world Manny Pacquiao,” said Sulaiman in a statement. “The winner of Mayweather vs. Mosley also deserves to be crowned as WBC Diamond world champion.” If the WBC is not allowed to present the belt in the ring, they will do so in the locker room of the winner.

Diamond championship belt.
Heres the result of all these titles in belts. Ready for it?...here it comes...nobody gives a fu.k anymore.
Suilaman with that explanantion sounds like a carnival barker. A song a dance man.
Last night I watched an old Clint Eastwood movie on amc. "The Outlaw Josey Wales".
In it, there is a traveling salesman type who keeps trying to sell this miracle liquid solution to everyone he comes across. When he meets up with Eastwood, he tries his routine on Clint telling him all of its fictitious uses.Eastwood responds by spitting tobacco all over the guys white jacket and asking him if it removes tobacco stains.
Suilaman reminds me of that salesman.

An Award For Jose Suilaman . . .

I agree, Brian. He's a low end piece of work that can take credit for playing a big role in the overall destruction of boxing.
When I was with the WBHOF, several geniouses came up with the idea to present Suilaman with some type of special award.
I was amazed and asked, why? I think the WBHOF President at the time was trying to kiss his ass for some reason.
I suggested we present him with a bag of manure. That's about all he contributes to boxing.
We could have called it, "The WBHOF Diamond Bull Sh*t Award".
Why not? It fits.


-Rick Farris

Perfect Rick. Maybe we can get him a "championship Belt" made out of Bull sh.t.

[Rick Farris]

CBZ Message Board?

Is it still operating?

The site was down yesterday, don't know what happened, think it came down with a virus...

Thanks, Frank. Sometimes I will go back and access the site searching for info in the Hap Navarro thread, etc.
I tried this morning and it was blank.

[raylawpc]

I watched both fights yesterday on HBO, the only fighter who I was somewhat impressed by was Angulo, I think that all these Eastern European heavy's are a bore in every way no personality just very robot like, as far as Arreola the guy will never get his self in shape and I think he should pack it in.

Yes, I did see the fights last night and nobody impressed me, the Europeans are just "one-two, one-two" kind of fighters, Angulo didn't have anybody in front of him, Adamek was the best of the night, I agree with you that "Fat Boy" should pack it in...

I agree, Frank. Angulo? We've discussed him before. One-dimensional, easy to hit. When Gwen Adair introduced me to Angulo at the 2008 WBHOF banquet, I looked at his eyes and he had deep scars above both. At the time I think he had less than a dozen pro fights. Even in this weak era he's not championship material. He's the kinda guy that we would see in six rounderrs at the Olympic, stepping stones for guys on the path to main events.

If I have no reason to favor a boxer, I'll generally support the Southern Cal fighter. With the first round less than half over, I was wanting Adamek to knock him out.

The Europeans? They retain their title as the most boring boxers on the planet.

I didn't see the fight. But the news accounts I read indicated that it was pretty good. True?

[THEHAMMER321]

Frank,Rick did anybody figure out if the pages were deleted or were they as someone stated a few days ago condensed

[THEHAMMER321]

Rick I love that 2 part documentary about Jerry Quarry you told me about,actually watched it about 10 times,I know Burt Sugar is full of bs but he does a good job of narrating.

[kikibalt]

Yes, I did see the fights last night and nobody impressed me, the Europeans are just "one-two, one-two" kind of fighters, Angulo didn't have anybody in front of him, Adamek was the best of the night, I agree with you that "Fat Boy" should pack it in...

I agree, Frank. Angulo? We've discussed him before. One-dimensional, easy to hit. When Gwen Adair introduced me to Angulo at the 2008 WBHOF banquet, I looked at his eyes and he had deep scars above both. At the time I think he had less than a dozen pro fights. Even in this weak era he's not championship material. He's the kinda guy that we would see in six rounderrs at the Olympic, stepping stones for guys on the path to main events.

If I have no reason to favor a boxer, I'll generally support the Southern Cal fighter. With the first round less than half over, I was wanting Adamek to knock him out.

The Europeans? They retain their title as the most boring boxers on the planet.

I didn't see the fight. But the news accounts I read indicated that it was pretty good. True?

Tom, the fights last weekend were for the most part, entertaining, we, I'm sure didn't see any future hall of famer's

[kikibalt]

Frank,Rick did anybody figure out if the pages were deleted or were they as someone stated a few days ago condensed

Don't know what's going on Paul..

[Rick Farris]

Frank,Rick did anybody figure out if the pages were deleted or were they as someone stated a few days ago condensed

Don't know what's going Paul..

I think Brian called it right when he suggested that the pages were expanded to include more posts.
Nothing appears to be missing, just the number of pages. I believe they have doubled the content of each page?

[Rick Farris]

Rick I love that 2 part documentary about Jerry Quarry you told me about,actually watched it about 10 times,I know Burt Sugar is full of bs but he does a good job of narrating.

Paul . . . It was pretty good. I'm not a Bert Sugar fan but he did OK here

[raylawpc]

I agree, Frank. Angulo? We've discussed him before. One-dimensional, easy to hit. When Gwen Adair introduced me to Angulo at the 2008 WBHOF banquet, I looked at his eyes and he had deep scars above both. At the time I think he had less than a dozen pro fights. Even in this weak era he's not championship material. He's the kinda guy that we would see in six rounderrs at the Olympic, stepping stones for guys on the path to main events.

If I have no reason to favor a boxer, I'll generally support the Southern Cal fighter. With the first round less than half over, I was wanting Adamek to knock him out.

The Europeans? They retain their title as the most boring boxers on the planet.

I didn't see the fight. But the news accounts I read indicated that it was pretty good. True?

Tom, the fights last weekend were for the most part, entertaining, we, I'm sure didn't see any future hall of famer's

Figures . . . a good fight comes on the air and I miss it. I didn't watch because so many of the fights recently have been so one-sided. Just my luck - something remotely entertaining and competitive comes on and I don't watch it.

[raylawpc]

Frank,Rick did anybody figure out if the pages were deleted or were they as someone stated a few days ago condensed

Don't know what's going Paul..

I think Brian called it right when he suggested that the pages were expanded to include more posts.
Nothing appears to be missing, just the number of pages. I believe they have doubled the content of each page?

That sounds right to me, Rick. The pages do seem longer; at least, it seems like it takes longer to scroll down to the bottom each time.

[Rick Farris]

Jerry Quarry at 21, training for Brian London 1967 . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0StHF1u7d8

[Rick Farris]

Jerry Quarry shaving cream commercial . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-vapUm ... re=related

[Rick Farris]

Freddie Roach vs. Richie Foster (Pat O'Grady in Foster's corner)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8B5UeSa ... re=related