The language Barrier

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Should there be a compulsorary translator at events?

Yes, the boxer must share a common language with the referee and doctor.
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Yes, but a translator (a person who speaks both languages) is acceptable -the boxer doesn't need to speak a common language itself.
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No, not required.
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whicker
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The language Barrier

Post by whicker »

Reading Ian McNeilly's (very good) article, I feel this might be an issue. http://news.boxrec.com/news/2010/woodho ... eplacement

The issue- fighters and staff (referee, matchmaker, doctor) etc not being able to understand each other.

Why is it a potential issue? Well, surely a referee must need to be able to make his intentions clear- warnings, directions, even just asking a fighter if he is OK etc. And likewise, if a fighter has a query, objection or problem (injury etc) he should be able to communicate that.

Or, is there an accepted system of signs that do the same function well enough.

Secondly, what about medical care? In (very rare) cases, a boxer may need to be given serious and immediate medical care. Is there a danger that the language barrier might hinder communiction (ie, he can't say whats wrong- or isn't able to understand and follow vital instructions.)

Or is it an unreasonable point?

Personannly, I DO feel this is an issue. Persons who may, potentially, require medical care should not be in a position where lack of a common language hinders the health.
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Re: The language Barrier

Post by whicker »

Godfather of Dole wrote:Qué?
The issue was that (to quite the article) "He tried to explain to referee Lyson what the matter was but his English was only slightly better than the arbiter’s Bulgarian"

Which leads to the question - should there be a translator available in case of issues and injuries etc.

Sounds like in this instance there was an injury, but due to language barrier problems, that was unclear.

What would happen, if for example a fighter needed to be given clear instructions, but was unable to understand them?
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Re: The language Barrier

Post by gkt999 »

If you are having a foreign boxer fight on a BBBoC show the paperwork submitted to the board asks for the name of the translator (if required). If the boxer / cornerman / manager etc can not converse then the agent named on the forms is responsible for these problems.

I have found in the past that most boxers/mangers can speak reasonible english, sometimes they chose not to speak english and act daft, normally when it comes to expenses.
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Re: The language Barrier

Post by crusader »

Was ist die Bedeutung des Lebens?
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Re: The language Barrier

Post by Asterix »

Чому жопа Пердью так популярні зараз?
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Re: The language Barrier

Post by Coco »

I boxed in a foreign country, gestures are enough, usually in the amateurs referees don't speak much, they do things with hand signals
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Gabh mo leithscéal! Ní thuigim.
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Post by slapbangwhallop »

MatthewS wrote:Gabh mo leithscéal! Ní thuigim.
I didnt realise you were a Fenian MatthewS!
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
MatthewS wrote:Gabh mo leithscéal! Ní thuigim.
I didnt realise you were a Fenian MatthewS!
unrepentant too!
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Asterix wrote:Чому жопа Пердью так популярні зараз?
carry on past these lights mate, over the next roundabout and you'll see it on your left hand side opposite Macdonald's :TU:
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Re: The language Barrier

Post by dondada »

This is a valid question, whicker, for sure.

The ref waved it off but I'm pretty confident he didn't know what was up with Dontchev - if anything. To make it worse, Dontchev initially protested at the stoppage, implying that's not what he wanted. There was nothing else for the ref to do, really. But he could have been saying something else and the ref would have waved it off anyway.

It's obviously an issue to some extent, hence the universal verbal and physical commands in the amateur game.
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Post by Jeff Thomas »

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
Asterix wrote:Чому жопа Пердью так популярні зараз?
carry on past these lights mate, over the next roundabout and you'll see it on your left hand side opposite Macdonald's :TU:
What, the job centre?
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Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam :TU:
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