Robert McCracken - great cornerman!

[ALI]

I've been so impressed with the advice that he gives Froch during his fights and the manner in which he does so that i felt compelled to write a thread on here about it and give the guy a bit of praise. I'd go as far as to say that he's one of the best cornerman i have seen.

What do others think about his cornerwork, is anyone else as impressed by him as i am?

[Spud]

I've been so impressed with the advice that he gives Froch during his fights and the manner in which he does so that i felt compelled to write a thread on here about it and give the guy a bit of praise. I'd go as far as to say that he's one of the best cornerman i have seen.

What do others think about his cornerwork, is anyone else as impressed by him as i am?

The man is outstanding in my view - just wish Frochy had taken a bit more notice of the advice.

[jameswilson]

Agree totally.

[stujones]

Agree with the post, and agree with Spud - but Spud's response kind of also shows a "bad" cornerman - I put "bad" in inverted comma's cause its not the word I want to use but cannot think of something more fitting what I mean.

Should so more authority so Froch listens to what he says. Froch didn't seem to respect his opinion enough tonight - which isn't good.

[Cotto16]

agree he is a great corner man, just a shame froch does not listen to him when he says to froch keep his hands up and and chin down

[brian1982]

Eastman didn't listen to him, Froch doesn't listen to him. He might give good advise but he is missing something as a trainer and corner man when his charges ignore him constantly.

[phil5555]

I've been so impressed with the advice that he gives Froch during his fights and the manner in which he does so that i felt compelled to write a thread on here about it and give the guy a bit of praise. I'd go as far as to say that he's one of the best cornerman i have seen.

What do others think about his cornerwork, is anyone else as impressed by him as i am?

The man is outstanding in my view - just wish Frochy had taken a bit more notice of the advice.

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[Scrap]

Dont tell Him what He cant do, tell Him what He can do.

[Spiker]

Maybe McCracken is to much of a pal to take charge of Froch and thats why he doesnt listen.
Work and play dont mix. Froch needed a right bollocking in the corner not someone pleading with him to not be cheated out of it.
Dont get me wrong McCracken is an excelent cornerman but froch aint listening, maybe it was his perferated eardrum

[gobbles]

Maybe McCracken is to much of a pal to take charge of Froch and thats why he doesnt listen.
Work and play dont mix. Froch needed a right bollocking in the corner not someone pleading with him to not be cheated out of it.
Dont get me wrong McCracken is an excelent cornerman but froch aint listening, maybe it was his perferated eardrum

Or maybe Froch is just a hot head who believes in his own mind that he can knock everyone out with one punch.

[Lenny]

Eastman didn't listen to him, Froch doesn't listen to him. He might give good advise but he is missing something as a trainer and corner man when his charges ignore him constantly.

I agree with this, you can also add Walker and Thirwell

[tonyevs]

Eastman didn't listen to him, Froch doesn't listen to him. He might give good advise but he is missing something as a trainer and corner man when his charges ignore him constantly.

agreed

No doubt he knows his stuff. But his boxers seem to rule the corner, unlike a trainer like Roach.

[DavidPayne]

Like many things with Carl Froch, at the age of 32, with a handful of very hard fights in his recent past and a burning sense of injustice at his lack of exposure on TV added to his stubborness, I find it hard to believe his in fight outlook can now be altered.

Whoever he had, Froch will revert to type when the bell rings. Like many fighters who snatched victory from the jaws of defeat or enjoyed a run of knockouts - its easy to be hypnotised by your own power when in truth it serves only to neglect his other attributes.

[gobbles]

Like many things with Carl Froch, at the age of 32, with a handful of very hard fights in his recent past and a burning sense of injustice at his lack of exposure on TV added to his stubborness, I find it hard to believe his in fight outlook can now be altered.

Whoever he had, Froch will revert to type when the bell rings. Like many fighters who snatched victory from the jaws of defeat or enjoyed a run of knockouts - its easy to be hypnotised by your own power when in truth it serves only to neglect his other attributes.

Good point. Very similar is Ricky Hatton. After he knocked out Maussa with a ridiculous runup, overhand punch, he tried it in every fight and always looked daft doing it.

[wrimc]

maybe to matey i would agree with that point but froch answering back shows a bit of a lack of respect something wrong there though

[Dioufy]

He gives very good advice - it's just a shame Froch chooses to ignore it.

[martin_g91]

agree he is a great corner man, just a shame froch does not listen to him when he says to froch keep his hands up and and chin down

That ship has well and truly sailed

[Counter-puncher]

Like many things with Carl Froch, at the age of 32, with a handful of very hard fights in his recent past and a burning sense of injustice at his lack of exposure on TV added to his stubborness, I find it hard to believe his in fight outlook can now be altered.

Whoever he had, Froch will revert to type when the bell rings. Like many fighters who snatched victory from the jaws of defeat or enjoyed a run of knockouts - its easy to be hypnotised by your own power when in truth it serves only to neglect his other attributes.

Good point. Very similar is Ricky Hatton. After he knocked out Maussa with a ridiculous runup, overhand punch, he tried it in every fight and always looked daft doing it.

sorry gobbles but i think you've got this all wrong.

that left hook was set up, amidst a very messy performance from Hatton, albeit one that he had started to tighten up in rds 7 onwards

that 'ridiculous' left hook was set up by several to the body, each time Maussa tried to make one of his bandy-legged lateral escapes away from Hatton's left Hatton would try stepping to his right to cut the ring off and dig the left hook into the body

the last time he tried it, he went upstairs with it and if you watch Maussa' hands and eyes they are both focussed on what he assumes will be another body shot

you're trying to make out that was some kind of Hail Mary once-in-a-lifetime 'lucky' punch, when Graham was trying to get Hatton to set up the left hook upstairs with bodyshots from about the 5th round if not before '('I promise you you'll fvking break him down and fvcking knock him out' in Graham's words), and Hatton eventually implemented the plan.

[martin_g91]

Like many things with Carl Froch, at the age of 32, with a handful of very hard fights in his recent past and a burning sense of injustice at his lack of exposure on TV added to his stubborness, I find it hard to believe his in fight outlook can now be altered.

Whoever he had, Froch will revert to type when the bell rings. Like many fighters who snatched victory from the jaws of defeat or enjoyed a run of knockouts - its easy to be hypnotised by your own power when in truth it serves only to neglect his other attributes.

Good point. Very similar is Ricky Hatton. After he knocked out Maussa with a ridiculous runup, overhand punch, he tried it in every fight and always looked daft doing it.

sorry gobbles but i think you've got this all wrong.

that left hook was set up, amidst a very messy performance from Hatton, albeit one that he had started to tighten up in rds 7 onwards

that 'ridiculous' left hook was set up by several to the body, each time Maussa tried to make one of his bandy-legged lateral escapes away from Hatton's left Hatton would try stepping to his right to cut the ring off and dig the left hook into the body

the last time he tried it, he went upstairs with it and if you watch Maussa' hands and eyes they are both focussed on what he assumes will be another body shot

you're trying to make out that was some kind of Hail Mary once-in-a-lifetime 'lucky' punch, when Graham was trying to get Hatton to set up the left hook upstairs with bodyshots from about the 5th round if not before '('I promise you you'll fvking break him down and fvcking knock him out' in Graham's words), and Hatton eventually implemented the plan.

I have to go with Gobbles here. I think counter-puncher you are making the fight fit the finish and its a bit of a stretch. under NO circumstances should a "World Title Level boxer" get cought with cartoon crazy, pub fight shot like that. Maussa was lucky he didn't get nicked for loitering !

[Dioufy]

Maussa was very wild in that fight, so in the end, it took a wild-ish punch to end it.

[martin_g91]

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[Dioufy]

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Talk about ambiguity. Is that aimed at me, or are you just trying to bump this thread?

If it's at me, then I will explain why I posted that. In that fight it was very hard to catch Maussa with orthodox shots. I think I even remember Hatton trying to lead with a right-hook a few times. However, the finish was decisive, and it was quite an unusual punch - all I remember is seeing Hatton jumping in with a massive, looping hook that nearly beheaded Maussa. I, though, believe it was a calculated punch. It seemed as if Hatton was constantly throwing the hook to the body with not too much success, so he changed tact, and tried to go to the head - it landed and it was goodnight. I don't think it was a "wild, pub-fight punch" in the slightest.

Strange punch, but a calculated one, IMO.

[martin_g91]

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Talk about ambiguity. Is that aimed at me, or are you just trying to bump this thread?

If it's at me, then I will explain why I posted that. In that fight it was very hard to catch Maussa with orthodox shots. I think I even remember Hatton trying to lead with a right-hook a few times. However, the finish was decisive, and it was quite an unusual punch - all I remember is seeing Hatton jumping in with a massive, looping hook that nearly beheaded Maussa. I, though, believe it was a calculated punch. It seemed as if Hatton was constantly throwing the hook to the body with not too much success, so he changed tact, and tried to go to the head - it landed and it was goodnight. I don't think it was a "wild, pub-fight punch" in the slightest.

Strange punch, but a calculated one, IMO.

I'm not having a go, I'm just saying that dosen't make any sense "Maussa was being wild so it took a wild punch to end it" (or simular). You don't copy someone to beat them, in face nine times out of ten you do the oppersit. What Maussa had done in the fight already has nothing to do with the fact that in a World Title fight, Hatton threw a shot from the middle of the ring that landed in the corner ! You shouldn't get cought with that shot in a playground. Watch the boxing this Saturday, they're looking for inche's for opening's not feet ! All that stoppage highlighted was the level of the opponent.

[jamesmcdonnell]

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Talk about ambiguity. Is that aimed at me, or are you just trying to bump this thread?

If it's at me, then I will explain why I posted that. In that fight it was very hard to catch Maussa with orthodox shots. I think I even remember Hatton trying to lead with a right-hook a few times. However, the finish was decisive, and it was quite an unusual punch - all I remember is seeing Hatton jumping in with a massive, looping hook that nearly beheaded Maussa. I, though, believe it was a calculated punch. It seemed as if Hatton was constantly throwing the hook to the body with not too much success, so he changed tact, and tried to go to the head - it landed and it was goodnight. I don't think it was a "wild, pub-fight punch" in the slightest.

Strange punch, but a calculated one, IMO.

Hatton looked crap during that fight, he got caught way too much by Maussa, and got cut into the bargain, i think the rot had already set in, in that hatton believed he could just steamroller everyone like he had Tszyu.

[Counter-puncher]

They'd worked on the shot in the gym and later worked on that same shot for future fights. I have this on 100% certainty.

fair enough, martin_g i may have overstated what i was saying and I know what you mean about making the fight fit the finish- which is a nice phrase by the way- but i still definitely see that left hook as being much more and better than some sort of desperation 1 in a million sunday punch